Now that is the kind of commentary that I have been missing for a couple of weeks. So good to find you and your brain. LOL!
Babes I am right behind you...well if I agree. I have a strong libertarian view on politics and government.
Conservatives or Republicans? They are very often not the same.
It's cyclical, warming and cooling, and has done so for millions of years.
And mankind had nothing to do with it.
Carbon is a life-giving substance which is seen as a life-killer by these government paid frauds. These liberal liars who once promoted global cooling are now promoting global warming. Oh wait, now it's called Climate Change. By way of dealership of this brand, 0bama's buddies have become rich.
Yes, and I'm very glad that so many are seeing the real truth on this topic.
Right, so let's just keep polluting because oil profit is the only thing that matters and the "I'm not a scientist" crowd must know more than actual scientists.
It's better to ignore science and listen to the Koch whores whose only concern is the American people.
The 'science' has been debunked a number of times, the data manipulation exposed several times, we've actually been cooling the last 10 years, and no amount of taxation will impact the climate one way or another.
Obviously we want to take reasonable steps to protect the environment, and have done so dramatically. Crippling our primary energy sources based on politically inspired junk science is not a good alternative.
The science hasn't been debunked and the planet hasn't been cooling. 2014 was one of the hottest years since record keeping began. It was tied with 2005 and 2010.
That's according to NASA, WMO, NOAA and Japan Meteorological Organization et al.
Crippling primary energy sources? How? By giving them too much money? US oil production is at 1985 levels and they still get $4 billion a year not counting taxpayer funded Navy protection 24/7.
Production has increased every year since 2008.
Obviously, there is more debate required. Ho9wever, the captured emails exposing manipulated data is going to be hard for your side to overcome. Plus, MY scientists can kick YOUR scientists ass!
Crippling energy industries? That's Obama's forte'. Taxes and regulations have all but killed coal. Fun fact - coal and natural gas power over half of Americas electric power plants. Obama regulations closed 32 of those plants last year. Another 36 will bite the dust this year.
So, how's that solar power home owner switch over kit coming there, Sparky? Or, are you OK if America is left in the dark?
Yeah, let's keep burning coal. I don't want to breathe anything I can't see. Better still is nukes. We have plenty of safe places to store waste that's toxic for 500 years
The technology already exists so we never have to burn another barrel of oil or piece of coal. Germany gets half it's power from alternatives. Do they have tech that we don't?
Solar power works great for me. My utility bill, including payments on the system, is a little more than half my neighbors.
What make and model is your solar unit? Does Home Depot sell them now? Or, is it still more like a geeky hobby project?
In other words you have nothing in rebuttal and you'd rather retreat into a 6th grade rank session than confront reality.
Urwut - You must have missed my initial response. Take another look Sparky, if you still have a bitch - get back to me.
I like your manner! LOL!
Thank you very much! If you like my manner, you'll love my bearing! Come on back here behind the bleachers - I'll show you!
LOL! Even better you are funny! Yes I love that. Be right back there big guy show me what you got!
For a few minutes try to change your perspective and try to see it from the vantage point of wanting to make people move for profit and power. You obviously have you opinion but it seems to me that is just as likely to be a hoax.
Even if AGW is a hoax there are a few hundred other benefits to reducing FF.
Not killing the ocean would be one.
It's not like we don't know it's a pollutant.
Don't get me wrong I am all for keeping things clean and un polluted. I am just ready to buy the theories that the climate people are pushing given that the earth has 4.5 billion years of climate and they are basing there stuff on less then 200 years. I find all to convenient for those in power to abuse.
It's based on more than just the last 200 years.
AGW skeptics are using the same arguments used by the tobacco industry against disease and the chem industry against ozone depletion.
The oil industry is a seasoned vet after running the same type of campaign against unleaded gas.
And you may be correct however, before start changing the way we do everything in this country don't you think that it should be irrefutable? The science of climate is not old...and many conclusions have been drawn based on faulty numbers. So as much as I can't deny that the industries you speak of may be spreading misinformation I also feel that government is least trustable. Sorry. The mega corporations are just a little less distasteful then government.
Irrefutable? To the scientific community it is.
Doesn't it make sense for the people who say they aren't scientists to listen to the people who are? Or is it a global conspiracy involving all but a handful of scientists?
What I don't understand is the aversion to even move in the direction of alternatives with all its obvious benefits and the absolute trust in oil companies that have been suppressing technology and manipulating markets for the last 100 years along with all the known and irrefutable detrimental effects of FF.
Corporations are less distasteful? Seriously?
The ultimate in totalitarian authority that answers to no one with profit as it's primary objective is more trustworthy?
Like the tobacco industry and Enron.
Would you want corporations inspecting your meat instead of USDA?
You're talking about the same people who said screw America we're going to China so we don't have to clean up the mess and we can exploit more desperate people. People who support both sides of war in the name of profit.The people who own the govt.
If not govt then who?
Give me one example of public pressure getting a company to clean its mess without going through govt
How long does it take for public opinion to affect change?
Did the fact that 14 year old girls were working 80 hours a week assembling electronics for $38 a month keep anyone from buying an iPhone?
The idea that a free market produces the best product at the best price is hogwash especially since the end of the Sherman anti-trust act. It produces planned obsolescence and imaginary prosperity.
That's not a very sound argument. Nobody said you have to live in a hut.
How about instead of subsidizing FF to the tune of $5.2 trillion a year worldwide we put half of it into alternatives?
Is there any doubt FF is a pollutant? Is there any doubt renewable energy would be a huge benefit to virtually everyone on the planet?
The only two questions should be do we have the technology and do we have the resources and the answer to both is yes.
Wouldn't it be wise to at least move in the direction of renewable energy?
We're moving away from it.
Even if global warming is BS ocean acidification certainly isn't.
Every single ecosystem on the planet is in a state of serious decline largely due to the extraction, processing, transportation and burning of FF.
We're losing 200 species a day or about 1400 times the norm.
We're in the throes of a 6th mass extinction event and doing nothing about it.
Nobody expects to be rid of FF overnight but we're not even making an effort
The FF industry actually wants global warming. They can't wait to get to the oil below the permafrost and they don't care if they set off a methane bomb to do it. Big business sees dollar signs in climate change. As it should.
It just seems to me that putting more money into developing renewables and less into oil & war including the BS war on terror would be wise.
Lol, judging from your response, you're not better than the bleeding heart liberals you complain about.
Protip: People tend to think better when they're not so emotional and worked up. Get your panties out of a knot, bro.
I don't know what makes you such an ignorant a$$ but it's working. Who left your cage open?
That's some of the most convoluted tripe I've seen in quite a while. You wear narrow minded ignorance like a badge and I will give your comment all the consideration it is due.
Disagreement is not intolerance.
The left isn't trying to drag Trump down.
There isn't a candidate in the race that wouldn't love to be running against Trump
In a discussion on alternative energy, you're actually defending Trump's idiocy, calling most Americans racist and scapegoating liberals for some imagined future death of NASCAR.
That pretty much proves my point.
Good to hear. It seems to be a nice format. Can't find anyway to friend you though. I guess I just follow?
I voted this way because" AS LONG AS THE EARTH HAS HAD CLIMATE, IT HAS BEEN CHANGING" - is the truth!
Because its true ? LOL.
Because two hundred years of data doesn't make us know the earth 4.5 billion years of climate. It just bullshit science!
but according to modern liberal propaganda, they are brainwashed to think it is science, climate changed is new and we are the cause
because the fact of "climate change" is a lie
And the activity of humankind has had a very small effect upon it.
Yep climate change most intelligent people call it weather.
its a living planet.
No new news here. Carry on. ;)
Hey Bored Collie, good to see you here!
Thanks Drue! Good to be here! How's it going here?
I like it here. So far so good!
Unfortunately, we have more of those Liberal teachers now and they are brain washing the kids minds. So glad my kids are grown, but I still worry about my grand kids. Hopefully with good parenting they will grow up to be intelligent people any way.
It doesn't take a fake climate scientist to figure it out. The point is that the climate change crapola that the likes of Obama and Gore are pushing is a scam.
The Koch brothers actually employed a group of scientists to collect the data and prove your point.
T'was all good until the scientists themselves realized the evidence they collected proved otherwise. Can imagine the embarrassment? Lawls
No kidding? Who are these scientists? Where did they publish? Or, is this just another NYT or ABC made up story?
Scientists? Who needs scientists when you have Al Gore! Bahahahahaha!