Its not a good thing when Something is Wrong I Agree Completely
Quickly try to assess their condition and call 911 .... then proceed with CPR if needed.
See the thing is: I never know if CPR is needed. Are they in a diabetic coma? Having a seizure? Who knows.
Also I noticed no one said: check arm for Medic Alert band.
I always ask the 911 operator for advice. But if there is no breath or pulse, I will take my chances and try.
Good point with the Medic Alert suggestion ;)
I'd stop whatever I was doing, make a quick assessment of the situation, and hopefully make a sound decision on what course of action to take.. now I'm going to read the other responses.
I'd start with checking breathing, then heart, and move on to symtoms.
There are many things to consider at a glance. Age, weight, is their skin colour changing? Undo tight garments. Speak to them if they can respond. Make them comfortable if possible... Phone 911.
Sukie, unexpected/sudden tragedies are sadly a part of life.
It's always those who've NEVER felt the PAIN of an unexpected tragedy who are the very people to cast their stones of JUDGING with how THEY would have done things differently.
I am one of 4(all girls), yet it's my sister who has no children who constantly critiques(behind our backs) about how her 3 sisters are raising HER nieces and nephews and how messy our homes are lol. and how if she chose to have children HER children would be blah, blah, blah.
I'll raise my hand on that one. I was the best parent in the world.. until I had children of my own. I was also much younger back then.
Exactly...we all think we know it all and know what WE would do as parents.... when we're NOT parents ourselves.
Once we become parents ourselves we GET IT :)
I have never said I would be a good parent. In fact I'd probably over-protective and over-monitoring...just like my parents were with us....
Sukie, I wasn't referring to you. :) ... I was only giving an example(to make a point) explaining how my sister who has no children, is judgmental towards my other siblings and I raise on how we raise our children, and how messy she thinks our homes(with children) are compared to her immaculately clean home...which her "home" is a tiny one bedroom apartment with a small living space and tiny kitchenette...where they eat their meals in their living room because her "immaculate" apartment is the size of my front living room lol!!!
Ask if they're okay if they are still conscious. Then I'd call 911.
Call 911 try to help if no one is
observe, render attenton and call 911
Three sensible steps - nice going ;)
LOL!! This I know. Unfortunately, it has not been my experience, but I keep TRYING.
What's that they say about insanity?
Yet you gave him a thumbs on his comment about him leaving a drunk woman on the side of the road.... just because she was being belligerent towards him while he was trying to help her??????????????
She was DRUNK, therefore instead of leaving her all alone to pass out on the side of the road ...a common sense/caring alternative would have been to call 911 to come to her aid and wait with her till help arrived.
911 didn't exist back then. There WAS life before cellphones and liberal doogooderism.
lol....how old are you where 911 or cell phones didn't exist back when you were 20 years old??? I'm 53 and 911 was around when I was 20 years old, as well as those emergency call boxes on the side of roads for one to use during an emergency prior to cell phones.
Even if you didn't have access to either of those, you still shouldn't have left her on the side of the road....IN MY OPINION as a mother of 2 daughters and 2 sons, where I'd like to believe that my 2 sons would never leave a drunk woman on the side of the road :(
59... and no one had a cell phone , only the very rich had a car phone, and 911 did not exist.
Again, I didn't leave her on the side of the road, I left her in the MIDDLE of the road, while I watched from my nice , warm, comfy '67 Ford LTD. She's damn lucky I didn't run her over, but instead I waited until she crawled to safety.
I offered assistance, got spit on, and moved on. Any further intrusion on my part would have had her crying RAPE!! You feminists don't like living with that which you create, do you?
I hope you 'taught' your two sons that no means NO.
911 did exist in most states back when you were 20 years old in 1977(maybe not in your state though).... I grew up in very small hick town where we didn't have cable TV but we did have 911.
My dad was a small business owner in my small hick town and he had a portable car phone back in the 80's and we were not "very rich" AT ALL.....just a middle class family back then whose dad worked his ass off 7 day a week to provide for HIS family.
My dad too. Construction and coal mines. The 80's was not the 70's. Stop diverting.
There was no 911 in my town, and I may have been 18. I had my LTD from 17 - 21. Doesn't matter. I would have done the same thing whether there was 911 or not. No means NO! Right?
What am I "diverting" from!!??
Look the bottom line is that you at 18 or 20 years old
CHOSE to leave behind a drunk, belligerent woman (now in MIDDLE of the road) just because she(being drunk at the time) wasn't appreciative/receptive of your chivalry towards her?
My opinion does not make me a feminist, it means that I was raised "right" to have common sense to know the difference between right and wrong, AND to also have empathy for people TRULY in need.
Deep down you must know that you were wrong to leave that belligerent drunk woman in the MIDDLE of the road, therefore most likely wondering ALL THE TIME as to whatever happened to her after you drove off leaving her alone....thus you still remembering it and now posting it on this website in your attempt to ease your guilt in the hopes that people will write that you did the right thing by leaving her alone in the MIDDLE of the road....just MY OPINION.
The event happened in the 70's, NOT the 80's. If your dad had a portable car phone in the 80's, that's irrelevant. There's the diversion.
I "chose" to help. She chose to deny, emphatically.
No means NO.
You have an opinion. I have a fact. The only thing that I am NOT proud of is my continued stupidity of being chivalrous for over 40 years.
LOL! I can see you as a juror at my imaginary 1976 rape trial for persisting in helping her, first in line, foaming at the mouth, and carrying a big sign that reads NO MEAN'S NO!!!
Rogue as I stated, NO means NO when it comes to sexual advances...not meant for you to take literally while trying to help out a drunk/belligerent woman from danger when she says "NO" while you're trying to HELP HER out of harms way.
I was a teenager in the 70's as well, that was exactly like how the movie Dazed and Confused depicted teenagers back then in my small home town...what that movie didn't depict is how teenage boys BACK THEN were very respectful towards us teenage girls and how they would fight any guy(no matter his size) if that guy was being disrespectful towards his girlfriend or being a dickhead towards any of us girls at that bonfire...thus if they ever found out that one of their guy friends left a drunk woman on the side/middle of the road, they would have come after YOU to beat the shit out of you for leaving a woman on the side/middle of the road.
"not meant for you to take literally"...like ALL liberal and feminist rules. lol They like to pick & choose, and use their "rules" as it suits their needs.
Gronk, If you really want to save face in this argument, you should just tell me that "no means no" wasn't around in the 70's either. Then I might say "that's true".
OR I might say: "No means no" didn't need to be around in the 70's. Most women were ladies.
I had/have plenty of respect for "ladies" in the 70's as well, but not so much for loud, foul mouthed drunks of any sex. Also, BACK THEN, when we teenage boys respected ladies, most women didn't drink like fish and curse like sailors as they do today. If they did, they weren't so respected. It was easy to respect most girls in the 70's.
Congratulations, you've come a long way, BABY.
Fact: I offered assistance
Fact: She EMPHATICALLY said &$%* NO!
Fact: No 911
Fact: No cell phones.
Fact: I had a date with a "lady".
There were two options. Let her be, or fight her to help her. I granted her wish. No means no. I didn't see her in the obituaries the next day.
Rogue as I stated to you I am NOT a feminist.
Back in the 70's when I was a teenager, my girlfriends and I drank beer and alcohol with our guy friends, as well as also thinking nothing of thumbing for rides to get to that keg party/bonfire(because there was nothing else to do in my small town on the weekends back then)...and we never ever feared/worried that anyone in our small town would take advantage of us being drunk OR leave us on the side/middle of the road because of us being drunk and belligerent towards them, because in my small town the boys I grew up with in my small town were raised right to always RESPECT women.
That was over 35 years ago. I would STILL be in jail.
Isn't it the feminists that are always squawking that no means NO?
Linnster we've all at some point in our lives have had to deal with a drunk friend or a drunk family member when they became nasty and belligerent BECAUSE they drank too much...thus me never abandoning them BECAUSE I knew they were NOT in their right frame of mind because they were DRUNK
Linnster understands me...sometimes
Linn understands most people sometimes. But she dislikes people most of the time.
Oh, I dunno. All one has to be is cordial, polite, have manners and half a brain. Hmmm, come to think of it, you're right, that's NOT most people.
I AM all of those things, and more, but I'm an oddball.
That's subjective, obviously.
I didn't leave her on the side of the road. I left her in the MIDDLE of the road.
You knew she was drunk (thus her being belligerent) but yet you LEFT her on the side of the road because she(being drunk) didn't appreciate your "chivalry" of trying to help her out that night...that's just messed up pal for you to have that kind of mentality to actully leave someone on the side of the road because they were wasted.
Oh come on, you're a good guy don't be like that.
How would you feel if it was your daughter who was drunk that was left on the side of the road because a 20 year old guy tried to help her BUT because she being drunk was being belligerent towards him, so he decided to just leave her(YOUR daughter) on the side of the road????
The REAL tragedy is that I didn't learn from my mistake. I'm STILL chivalrous to this day, and STILL expect it to be appreciated. Pffffft.
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.” ~ A. Einstein
One being chivalrous is not when one feels they're going to be appreciated(get something out of it) for their chivalry/kindness towards others.....being truly chivalrous is when one's innate instinct is to be kind and helpful WITHOUT expecting to be appreciated(rewarded) for their kindness.
Nope, sorry. I expect a "thank you" and/or common courtesy for aiding a damsel in distress..or ANYONE in distress. Nobody deserves less.
Again, you feminists don't like living with that which you create, do you?
Lol at you referring to me as a "feminists" given that in my RL I'm considered by my friends and family members as "Sarah Palin" BECAUSE of our same conservative values /beliefs as well as her and I looking like each other lol!!!
Back in 2008 when I was watching the RNC parading out Sarah Palin as McCain's VP choice..my 3 year old daughter who was occupying herself coloring next to me while I was watching/listening to Sarah Palin's speech... my 3 year old daughter(obviously watching TV as she was coloring) said to me "mommy she looks just like you."
Ugh, so because of me being an intelligent, common sense female libertarian LOOKING like Sarah Palin... my politically ill informed friends would no longer rely on me or take me seriously anymore about my political opinions.....because they as politically ignorant/shallow people ASSumed that I as a life long fiscal conservative was only supporting McCain because Sarah Palin and I looked alike...which only made me doubt their intelligence even more so.
You need new friends :)
Feminists don't like living with that which they create, do they?
No means no.
Gronk, I almost like you, so I am going to end this now, and give you the final word if you choose to answer my questions.
I'm not diverting from anything you asked me. I told you that I am not a "feminist"(especially by today's standards of being a feminist)...however I do stand by how I would react and also want my son's to react when a women(or anyone for that matter) is in distress.
Just a side note...by you telling me that YOU are going to END this(conversation) now, BUT will give me the opportunity to have the final word...makes you come across as an intolerant liberal who doesn't want to deal with people anymore just because they simply disagree with your opinions on a topic.
Nah, I just perceive you as one of those liberals who will say ANYTHING just to say SOMETHING, just to get the last word. I thought I would be polite and relent. Fine. Sounds like you want to keep going, but you do so at your own peril.
You ARE diverting. The topic is NOT our father's working habits, nor is it your liberal friends.
On another side note... but still relevant to your charges: In 1968, 9-1-1 became the national emergency number for the United States. The number itself, however, did not become widely known until the 1970s, and many municipalities did not have 9-1-1 service until well into the 1980s. Source: Wiki.
She said "no", loud and clear, with plenty of expletives. No means NO. It was drilled into my aching head.
I never ONCE heard: No means no, unless...
Rogue, you are sadly a partisan, thus you ASSuming that whenever one simply disagrees with YOUR opinion on a topic YOU assume they must be a __.
I'm registered NPA. "No Party Affiliate". I hate both Conservatives and Liberals.
If either duck quacks...
Rogue, it's people like yourself who support a 3rd party candidate KNOWING full well that a 3rd party candidate has NO SHOT at all in "winning" OUR White House, are the very people who piss me off the most, because you know damn well by you voting for a 3rd party libertarian candidate WILL result in Hillary Clinton becoming our country's next CIC.
No means NO! Whether drunk or sober it doesn't matter, no means NO!
Isn't that what you feminists have been squawking for the past 30 years?
Rogue, a woman saying NO to the sexual advances of their date is MUCH DIFFERENT than a DRUNK/belligerent woman saying "NO" to you trying to help them out to safety while on the side/middle of the road!!! How can you not see the difference???
I know the difference,... but it appears liberals DON'T. 'Rules' are RULES! There was no disclaimer on the feminist battle cry that stated: "no means no, unless"...
...so, drunk, drugged, or sober, no means NO!
I did "try", and she said NO! .. Yes MA'AM.
The liberals' and the man haters who consort with them, can't 'pick and choose' when their own laws apply and when they don't, just to suit their agenda.
Look Rouge, I'm a middle aged "soccer mom" whose fellow "soccer mom" friends in my liberal state ALL overwhelming support Donald Trump in private because we have to do so living in a far left BLUE state......so stop spewing your hate towards liberals, because we as COMMON SENSE Americans know that our liberal "msm" will run with comments like yours to make US all LOOK BAD in their attempt to get Hillary Clinton elected.
Ask if that someone was okay and help her/him get up.
Edit: Oh, you mean collapse as in fainting? I just imagined someone falling in front of me, but being conscious. I guess, checking for breathing and calling 112 would be my choice.
Initially, discover any apparent reason(s) for the collapse while attempting to reach 911 and asking around for medical pros.
Comments people have made on this OPINION website that DO NOT violate this websites TOS are being deleted for some reason.
Yet in our country's new AmeriKa a website can delete our opinions, but yet supposedly do not have the tech ability to CENSOR the pedophiles or ISIS recruiters polluting the internet???????????????
Eh comments on this thread last night were deleted, but are now here again....I was frustrated that's all :)
Cool. I didn't catch it. :)
I'm no longer shocked as to how the PTB control opinion websites and what they want us read.
Tonight my 11 year old daughter and I went to Barnes and Noble to buy one of the books on her summer reading list.....so while there I looked around for that book written by a former Secret Service member who wrote a book about his dealings with Hillary Clinton as our 1st Lady, yet it was NO WHERE to be found in that book store....so while at the register paying for my books, I asked the teenage clerk why they didn't have that new book that came out yesterday(Tuesday) about Hilary Clinton, and she said "oh you mean that book Crisis of Character... yeah we don't have that book in our store right now"...where I said "but that book came out yesterday", where she as a BRAIN WASHED ignoramus "informed" me that books released on Tuesdays "meant they were sent to our bookstores on a Tuesday and that those new books could be on a loading dock for at least a week or so."
Today, just out of curiosity....I called that same local Barnes & Noble bookstore to see if they had the book Crisis of Character, and once again I was told the same story over the phone as I was told while in their bookstore inquiring about that book.
Funny how my local Barnes and Noble store STILL doesn't have the current #1 best seller book on Amazon.com to be able to sell in their store??
Eh I don't think their financial difficulties had anything to do with them not putting that book in their store, because they had on full display right when you walked in their store a bunch of other new books that were released this past Tuesday as well...... therefore I could only surmise that they were purposely not putting Crisis of Character on their "bookshelves" because that book portrays Hillary Clinton in a negative way during an election year when she was FINALLY going to be the Democrat nominee to be crowned our country's 1st Female POTUS.
Linnster, sadly given the huge divide in our country now BECAUSE OF POLITICIANS who are aided and abetted by our "trusted" media...nothing shocks me any more as to what one will do or say to further their political party's agenda.
If anyone suddenly collapsed right in front of me, or collapsed in my view from afar... my knee jerk/gut reaction would be to HELP in any way I could.
Lay the person in a supine position. Elevate their legs to restore blood flow to the brain. Loosen tight clothing. Check for red flags such as blue lips and/or face, arrhythmias, difficulty breathing, and complaints of chest pains — if present, call emergency services immediately.
Ask them if they were ok if they were conscious, call an ambulance if they weren't
Honestly depends on the person. Are we talking an 80 year old lady with a walker or a twenty something year old guy with needle tracks up and down his arms? Yes my response would be different.
Ask are you ok are you ok? then call 9/11 asap because im not a bitch
My medical assistant skills would kick in
Good God. Did she suffer from alchohol poisoning?
Catch them before they hit the ground to prevent any injuries if I am close and can react fast enough, gently lay them on the ground. Then check for a pulse, and/or any signs that they are breathing. Ask them if they are conscious; if they do not respond within 5 - 10 seconds, then phone 911.
(I apologize if this is a dumb answer, but I tried to answer intelligently).
It's a good answer. But if someone is 300 lbs. of weight you might not want to catch them.
In that case, yeah.. I don't think I would catch them, don't wanna get crushed. However, I do plan on working out to get some more muscle, hopefully enough to lift more than 300 lbs. I don't know if that will be possible, though. I'm currently a weakling.
Ask them if they were ok
Check air and heart and proceed from there with whatever symptoms are evident.
This was a good post. Perhaps adding a link to a site that gives people some basic do's and don't would be good.
Ask him if he Collapsed
I fear for the bystander effect but I would try my best to help them out
Whisper "holy shit" to myself, check pulse and breathing, and then, if needed, tell a specific person to call 911 while I start CPR
Have somebody else call 911, then start CPR.
Unfortunately (or fortunately, however way you look at it), I was required to get first aid training quite some time ago, due to being responsible for workplace confined spaces entry. It's a law where I live! So, by law I would have to at least try to get the person comfortable and make sure he/she wasn't hurt in any way (such as bumping their head and bleeding). If they were bleeding, I would have to at least put some kind of a compress on their wound.
I would first look around to see if the reason they was collapsed was due to an outside source. If not, I would check their vitals. If they were conscious I would ask them what happend. If they were not, I'd have someone call 911.
I would laugh Bwahh ha haa ha more laugh ha ha ha haa
Why would you laugh if someone collapsed(not slipped or fell) in front of you.... instead of your gut instinct being to help them?