Oh some simpleminded (okay just really stupid) people can't grasp the concept that there is good & bad in everything. I just love when complete morons say "well all Christians do this" please...give me a break...not all but you can't seem to use the word some in your statement.
I am guilty of doing that and I try not to, when it is pointed out to me I apologize.
I think we all have been guilty of it however some continuously do it.
Oh my bad
I wouldn't say they're evil per se, because they believe they're doing the will of God. I'd put them in the category of, 1, being at war with us, (a war the west started) and 2, using evil to pursue good, a course of action I consider delusional.
They often are. That doesn't make it so, any more than classifying the IRA or FARC as evil makes them evil.
Thank you for your permission.
I suppose the 'Son of Liberty' were also evil.
Birds born in cages think flying is a crime.
How do you know what it thinks?
Lot's of people think adultery is a sin, and do it every chance they get.
Maybe your budgie is a bad boy?
People tend to judge the words or actions of some for all. That's a mistake.
People do that all the time. What's your defn't of evil, VicZinc? And predjudice while you're at it...
No dictionary definition either...or at least paraphrase...
I don't believe in evil. It's all perspective. We never know when one act deemed evil by some might result in a greater good. The classic example is Judas.
Prejudiced is when we assume something about another person based on their physical characteristics before we get to know them. Judging a book by it's cover.
Give us some standard...everyone's different perspective makes this a shifty poll. ;)
I mean there's gotta be some basic words...like "bad" perhaps...something with which we can all relate to under the broader term of "evil"...:)
Most people agree with you. I don't. There is no 'good' or 'bad'.
We have no way of predicting the outcome of our behaviors. Maybe killing someone results in that person never starting a epidemic. Perhaps saving someones life means they will have a chance to father a mass murderer.
We just cannot know the long term consequences of our actions, which is why Jesus said:
"scatter the seeds across the field, some will fall a footpath, others on rock, others among thorns and still others on fertile soil...the field where you planted that good seed will be full of weeds. Let both grow until the harvest. The harvester will sort out the weeds."
It is not up to me to sort out the weeds, I will wait for the harvester to do that.
Who am I to decide which plants are to be selected and which are to be left to rot when the harvester collects his crops?
Vic...it's so zen of you... You have got 2 b a Bhuddist...your AV name s/b VicZen...ha...xo...
So if someone steals...that's not "bad"?
It might be. I will never know. No one can steal from me because I don't claim ownership of anything.
Fascinating...and slightly Frustrating...
So are you Bhuddist?
No. I am not really anything.
Mostly if you ask a person a question...everyone has the same understanding of words...like in this case...evil... How can you understand what ppl are saying if you yourself take a different meaning from words...
No one here defined 'evil' except me.
What's your definition?
Well, you're the poster... Posters usually do that...provide the definition...and then usually commenters take your definitions and follow them in making a comment... Does this make sense?
This post was in response to someone who referred to the 'evil left'.
Most people I know equate 'evil' with the devil, as in satan.
Some people might think a certain action or a certain person is 'evil' by their own definition.
For example someone might think Hitler or Charles Manson or Joseph Stalin was evil - meaning like the devil, as bad a satan. Maybe they are right, I don't know - but maybe.
I am just saying anyone who says 'this entire group of people is evil' implying that every single person associated with that group is equivalent to satan - well that person is either prejudiced or is using a non-standard definition of evil.
In my mind, rather I believe in evil or not, it seems very unlikely that every leftist is as bad as Hitler or satan; or that every muslim is exactly like satan; or every person who ever supported the 'right to choose' is just as bad as Charles Manson.
That's what I was trying to say.
I guess you have your own dictionary...and other peoples dictionary...?
I am open.
Define away, I am all eyes.
You know...with your attitude...no wonder your life has been virtually seamless...:)
That yoga group I was with tried to teach us the importance of detachment...but it never really took with most of us....
Probably both on most accounts.
I'll agree with you on race and nationality because we don't get to choose the circumstances of our birth, but are you suggesting that there are no fundamentally evil ideologies out there? How about satanism? Which side does being a satanist put you on, good or evil? I'd say a satanist who thinks he's a "good person" is a seriously confused individual. People don't get involved in that ideology to pursue virtue, they know they're evil, they do it for power. I consider it "fool's gold" personally, kind of like destroying what's really important in pursuit of things that aren't important, but that's beside the point. Satanists are evil, and any of them would tell you that if they wanted to be honest with you, which they may or may not, since they have no compunction about lying if it suits them.
Action arises out of thought, and your actions are a product of your ideology. Hired assassins have a different ideology than Buddhist monks, which is why they kill people for money instead of praying all day.
I won't argue with you here because there is no way to conduct a full platonic dialogue here.
I will disagree, on 3 levels:
1) your perspective is not that of a Satanist
2) Matthew 13. The parable of the weeds. We should make ourselves like fertile soil yes, but it is the role of the harvester to separate the weeds from the wheat.
3) we should endeavour to live a pure life but we cannot know the role others play nor the consequences of their contributions.
Evil | Definition of Evil by Merriam-Webster
1 a : morally reprehensible : sinful, wicked <an evil impulse> b : arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct <a person of evil reputation>.
So it is an opinion. The serpent's lie to Eve was that she could know evil, but that is contrary to the definition. Of course everybody since then thinks they have a better idea.
I have never ever, don't get me wrong, said that all white people are evil. However, what I do reflect on is facts, and it's more because of circumstances and the stupidities in this world. I highly doubt Cha Cha Jimenez made the Young Lords into what they are today. -ez surnames are WHITE. It had to be a Rivera who made into what it is. Mexico, Central, South America, Puerto Rico and Cuba are run by Visigoths, hence white countries, and lots of racism I must add. But yeah
Yes, especially this "Friends"-watching "bro"-hating bUm drug addict that I just ran into right now that said I "needed help" - aka mentally institutionalized. Yeah I know she's stereotyping "crazy" people, but I can slam the shit back at her.