Do you think it seems at least a little bit silly that Christians are so divided?
It's actually the hypocrisy that make it hard to take seriously.
LOL! But you're right.
Is diversity a bad thing? Is being monolithic a desirable trait in a religion?
Dang - I was going to say that. Now I have to come up with something else.
There are more denominations of Christianity than there are passages of the Bible.
"Many books and websites list faulty statistics on the King James Bible. Of course the number of books (66) and chapters (1,189) are fairly easy to count. However when it comes to verses, words and letters, there are a wide variety of numbers floating around. For example when it comes to verses I have read and heard preachers and teachers say there are 31,000 verses, 31,101 verses, 31,102 verses, 31,170 verses and 31,175 verses. "
I had to attend a short, informal chat/class on religion before they would let my eldest daughter be baptized in the Catholic Church. One question asked was, "what is the number #1 reason why people stop going to (Catholic) mass"? The given answer was because their fathers stopped going to mass.
When I told this to a friend, he responded, "hmm, I thought it would be because the dogma makes no sense". So that's my answer. I find it difficult to take Christianity (Catholicism) seriously because the dogma makes no sense.
Here's a great Emo Phillips joke, his best is below
When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realised, the Lord doesn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked Him to forgive me ... and I got it!
So, it's the number of denominations that makes you shy away from Christianity?
I can understand the sentiment - from an outsider's perspective anyways, it might look like all of these denominations are vastly different, but many really aren't. Many just differ in their internal policies/traditions. Most still proclaim Jesus as Lord (though the ones that don't are called "cults").
When I first became a Christian, I went to a Lutheran church. But after awhile, I felt it was a bit stale - not because of the Bible lessons - but because I just didn't feel like I was growing in that church. So then we drove a little further down the road and started going to a Free Evangelical church instead. That was much better. We don't feel locked into this one either though, so if things aren't going well here, we'll move on and try another. I'm just not going to dance with snakes, that's all.
Never heard of Pat Robertson, what has he done?
Pat Robertson is a political/religious pundit. He used to be on a show called "the 700 club". (He may still be. I don't know). Anyway, he occasionally says some pretty crazy stuff.
Thanks, I read the top crazies phrases Pat Robertson said. I also learned a new word, pundit.
"1. A source of opinion; a critic: a political pundit."
I needed to learn more about that word myself. I had a vague idea of what it meant, but I didn't know how to spell it (pundant).
Here's Emo Phillips famous joke.
This morning I received thrilling news: a joke I wrote more than 20 years ago has been voted the funniest religious joke of all time! In case you've missed it, here it is:
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"
He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"
Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over
so what, we all believe in the same God, and that Jesus is our only salvation, you atheits fairy tale believers are looking for any desperate reason to hate christians, its extremely pathetic
It's really easy to take seriously. My name is Jerry; I subscribe to to the Jerry denomination. You subscribe to yours. It's between you and God. Fuck denominations.
What evidence do you have of God existing? Who created God? A creator must inherently be more complex than the creation. Therefore, the problem of God leads to infinite regressions.
I'm not here to argue with you about the existence of God. You were bitching about denominations. We do this discussion and maybe someday we can talk about other things. You were bitching about denominations, right? I'm not looking to prove ANYTHING to you and could never ever give half of a shit what you believe.
Aren't Christians supposed to try to convert people? Or is that entire Christian missionary part of my imagination?
If I had to pick a domination I would say catholic is the best.
"“A person who thinks only about building walls — wherever they may be — and not building bridges, is not Christian,” Francis said Thursday, according to a translation from the Associated Press. "This is not in the Gospel.""
I'm not your average Christian. I don't give 1/4 of a shit what you think.
Think what you please.
that is just the way it is.
No. Errors accumulate over time. One needs to go back and see what Christ did. Best way to read the bible is to first ask for the assistance of the Holy Spirit. (Obviously, those who don't believe in the Trinity are at a distinct disadvantage.) And it helps to decide whether Christ established a Church.
In the 19th century Americans started moving west and three institutions went with them. There was vaudeville, traveling entertainment. There was lyceum, traveling education and culture. And there was the itinerant preacher, offering a new style of preaching called "hell fire and brim stone". It was very entertaining, only loosely based on scripture, and pastors didn't even try to compete. Instead they switched to preaching public morality and philosophy.
Eventually an entire generation grew up not knowing the first thing about the religion they claimed to believe. That is why most Christian churches don't teach doctrines, and most members don't know what they are supposed to believe.
2 Timothy 4:
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
That is what Satan wants! To confuse people and make them give up the search. The Bible says to seek the truth as if it were "hidden treasure"
I don't think Satan exists, the Bible is a misinformation campaign in my opinion. Just as big tobacco and big fossil fuel deny the tobacco/cancer link and fossil fuel/Co2/climate change link.
It's not the different denominations that make it difficult to take seriously. It's the fact that it's an oraganized religion that makes it difficult to take seriously.