If anyone does that they should be fined HEAVILY or jailed
Well, while trump and his minions were going on about "so called judges" and apprenice ratings, congress killed rules obama enacted to restrict dumping.
And if course you posted about the wall street thing....
He is playing " slight of hand",
Hucksterism has conquered the white house. The presidential equivalent of the guy who puts things under the cups on the street corner and slides them around
Does that include the EPA that did it twice in the last administration?
No they should not, but if Trump does away with regulations, they might be able to lawfully do it.
He's wanting to do away with a lot of regulations.... and he will, and then we will really be in trouble.
ONE of my many grave concerns about a Trump presidency and administration, has been and IS just this kind of thing. I know that Trump has already repealed The Stream Protection Rule, and I'm at all surprised.
Heaven forbid, that the wealthy mining companies should be bogged down with any pesky environmental protection regulations. They have enough money to hire slick lawyers and 'experts' to deny miners black lung benefits, though.
No, I do NOT think mining companies should be allowed to dump their waste into surrounding streams or waterways, for many reasons.
Im afraid this is only one of the many moves that will jeopordize our environment.
Profits are far more instantly gratifying.
So am I, Carla. :(
Where I live - Hamilton - Ontario...they've been getting away with it for years. Stelco, Difasco, and US Steel.
They've polluted our lake and our air for years.
When I first moved here... I coughed up black crap for a couple of months.
That is sad:(
I thought I was a walking advert for a John Grisham movie. :)
Thats what happens with no epa regulation
No they shouldn't do that. In Maine we have very strict environmental controls, I am glade but sometimes it seems unfair. We can't even move a rock at our camo due to the lawes, so we have no beach - gotta hop rocks to get to the water, thus I rarely go swimming now, when a kid it was easy now not so much.
The battle is not between one ism and another. It is between centralized government and individuals.
No, mining companies should not be allowed to dump garbage into our streams and waterways but then, neither should the EPA which did it twice in the last administration with no sanctions. EPA should be held accountable for their own pollution before they get on their "high horse" and target others.
I think you may be speaking of unintentional spills.
Enlighten me if im wrong.
Imvspeaking of unregulated , intentional, its easier to deal with...dumping
Accountability all the way around and that includes EPA for fouling the rivers in CO and then trying to keep it quiet. They were careless in their work and that caused the spills. Of course mining CO's also need to be accountable for what they put in the waterways. The gulf oil spill was unintentional but was taken very seriously. The EPA doesn't get a pass and no one got fired for it, just like Benghazi, the VA and the rotten
targeting by the IRS.
Im not speaking here of all the wrongs past.
Im speaking of, here and now.
Should mining compaies be allowed to knowingly dump mining wastes in to streams?
I've already answered your question........
Yes it was wrong to not hold someone accountable.
Placing rules on companies that routinely ignore the negative impact on the environment is neccessary.
Removing those rules is environmental homicide
I live in an agricultural area and the EPA is insanely aggressive in their demands. I love our planet and have been known to tempt fate when I yelled at some young guys who threw trash out their window. I think
fines in that case should be in the thousands of dollars like on the reservations out west. When EPA labeled a milk spill an "oil" spill around here, that when it hit the fan.
Mining companies should be nailed to the wall if/when they ignore the rules. That goes for ANY entity!
Thank you oz.
The rules regarding mining waste the were imposed by obama are being repealed.
They were actually aready in place, just unclear and easily bypassed.
Not any longer
We need to take care of our earth and leave it in better shape than we found it. But, there has to be some common sense about it too. The rules have gotten so ridiculous in some areas that the people want EPA dismantled. I'd say reduce it by 75%.
No. 43% think they should?!!! What is wrong with you?
Load your questions much?
Wouldnt put 22 caliber bullets in a 357
Oh, the left bitches haven't been so much as small caliber as lack of substance.
So, its fine with you.
Mining companies allowing their waste to jeopordize the surrounding waterways??
Anything to maximize profits, right?
You think this type of deregulation is going to bring jobs back?
Whose pockets will benefit?
And by bitches i certainly hope you are referring to complaints....
You'll have to fabricate another story. That's not at all close to what I said.
Seriously Carla, who told you that republicans want to dump toxic waste in your rivers and streams?
You honestly believe that such an asinine idea motivates someone? Anyone?
You don't come across as stupid - belief in that is however.
Look into it bud.
He told you he was going to loosen regs.
Go to snopes.
And 'loosen regs' translates into dumping toxic waste into rivers and streams?
No! You don't send me on some wild goose chase! You made the claim - defend it.
It's pretty well know that snopes is not that when it comes to political topics - owned, operated, influenced by far left entities.
Yes it does. Open pit mining allows harmful runoff to go into waterways.
You dont see it that way.
Okay. We will never agree on whats happening. But im still going to point out what is being done.
Especially on big businesses behalf.
And what makes you think that regulation changes which have not been specified, are going to effect your concern?
My concern is the water.
My real concern is trump said he would loosen epa regulations. Some may be overdone.
Some are not.
I used to be able to smell detroit before i got to toledo.
I used to be able to smell searay boats
10 miles away.
Detroit river used to smell like dead animals.
Going backward is what i fear.......
But, thats me
I get all that, I understand. But you've made a really big jump from Trump saying he wants to scale back over regulation to claiming the republican party want to dump toxic waste into rivers and streams.
You are engaging in hyperbole. When doing so consistently, it damages your credibility. Keep your concerns real - if you want them heard and discussed.
Please dont question my credibility.
Congress has voted to overturn the stream protection act. It was enacted to fill gaps and ambiguity in an existing regulation.
Overturning it allows for open pit mining debis to flow into streams. This debris contains toxins that can damage the water system.
Go to rueters if you want a right handed take on it. Of course they applaud it, but it doesnt make the problem less real
You can protect your own credibility by being straight in the first place. It's took three days to finally pull a straight answer from you on this thread. And, thank you by the way for doing that.
OK the Stream Protection Rule. First, since when does an unelected body like the EPA get to produce laws? We have legislators to do that. The stream Protection Rule is over reaching and duplicates the important aspects (like your particular concerns) already made in local and state laws. The extra stuff in the rule are simply designed to put coal businesses out of business.
So, our rivers and streams are in no more peril than before.
The rule also threatens mining techniques called 'longwall mining, which is underground and causes no disruption to rivers and streams at all.
My real point though is that these wild claims the left consistently makes against the right are just plain stupid! We don't want to poison our water supplies, we don't push old people in wheel chars off cliffs and we don not roast babies at bar-b-ques.
Bud the mining of which speak, blowing tops off mountains, most certainly contaminates ground water that lies neneath.
And the rule that was enacted by obama was put in place because the reg was vague. The waste from these mines does compromise the water system.
You dont agree, that is fine. You believe the regulation on companies to protect our invironment are overreaching. I disagree.
I dont wish to move backwards. That is what i see. You have a different vision.
I hope you dont get blindsided....
Spelling errors and all
They are only putting it back where it came from.