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Its finally something we agree on. I have said that since the start. We are just sugar coating it with a fancy term.

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Apostasy is a crime with death penalty as the punishment. I say your claim of Islamophobia being based upon inaccurate claims and misunderstanding is purely a falsehood. You claim to be a Christian, but there is a good chance you are a secret Muslim, you sure act like one.

Do you know what apostasy is? "Abandonment of one's religious faith."

People are afraid of Islam for legitimate reasons this is rational, people fear Islam due to facts.

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Islam is a religion of intolerance, hate, violence, misogynist, deception, who rules via suppression and fear. Any rational mind would be afraid of Islam. Being unafraid of Islam is a sign of insanity in my opinion.

"Quran 8:12
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve.

Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" "


"And they applaud that, but if we say something about a woman who’s forced to wear a beekeeper suit in the hot summer all day…”

“Oh, that’s their culture, you have to respect it,” Dawkins said mockingly.

“That’s right! That’s what they say. It’s just insane,” Maher said, swooning."

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Phobias are typically irrational fears, I don't think fear of Islam is irrational. It's tenets are antithetical to the foundational concepts our society is built on. While most Muslims are not dangerous people, some are, and their philosophy represents an existential threat to the free and open society the overwhelming majority of people in the west want.

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I'm not so worried about Muslims, but the spread of a religion with so much hate, violence, intolerance, misogyny, deception, homophobia, anti-Christian, anti-semantic, who rules via suppression and fear.

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Yes, that is definitely going too far. Yet, I wouldn't call that Islamphobia, I would call that hate.


"a persistent, irrational, intense fear of a specific object, activity, or situation (the phobic stimulus), fear that is recognized as being excessive or unreasonable by the individual himself."

There is a huge difference between hating Muslims and fearing Islam. For one, Islam is a religion, where a Muslim is someone who practices Islam. I fear poisonous spiders, but I don't hate them.

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You might be correct in the first sentence, if so then a different word needs to be used. How about stop hatred of Muslims or stop Anti-Muslim hate groups?

// "Anti-Muslim hate groups are a relatively new phenomenon in the United States, with many appearing in the aftermath of the World Trade Center terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. Beginning in 2010, anti-Muslim legislation increased and opposition to the development of an Islamic Center in lower Manhattan made headlines." //

There is a vast difference between legitimate fear and criticism of Islam versus Islam hate groups.

If you say "stop Islamphobia", you are targeting legitimate criticism and fear in my opinion.

Conversely, if a person says "stop Anti-Muslim hate groups" this is the correct terminology in my opinion. That no good can come of anti-Muslim hate groups.

To summarize, the rational center is being attacked on two fronts. First, liberal suppression tactics, trying to tight-cast anyone who has legitimate doubts about Islam as // "Islamphobic." //

Second, conservative anti-Muslim hate groups who propagate lies and exaggerate facts to make people hate Muslims.

Both are dangerous, one would have us be blind to the dangers and crimes of Islam and the other would have us use violence against Muslims.

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vegans avatar vegan Yeah You Are 0Reply

Phobia is a real word. Islam is a real word. I don't see anything made up about either of them.