By not wasting time watching ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, or CNN.
Trump’s comments during a Florida campaign rally on Saturday – which some took as a misstatement about a supposed terror attack – dovetail with what Swedish police investigator Peter Springare has been seeing during a typical week in Orebro, Sweden. Five rapes, three assaults, a pair of extortions, blackmail, an attempted murder, violence against police and a robbery made up Springare’s caseload for a five-day period earlier this month, according to a Feb. 3 Facebook post he wrote. The suspects were all from Muslim-majority countries – Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia and Turkey – save for one Swedish man nabbed in a drug-related case.
It seems like McFly may be missing the point of the story, which is there has been a massive social cost associated with the refugee policies and the immigration policies of Western Europe.
and he clearly did NOT say 'actual terrorist attack.' He was referring to the increase rape, murder, violence and 'no go' zones in Sweden. If you followed European and World news you'd know that has become a problem.
He did NOT say terrorist attack and he was referring to a program on Sweden's cover-up of the problems the 'migrant' population has caused in Sweden. And so you are aware, if you publicly disagree with the Swedish Government you can be jailed and prosecuted as being anti-social (what some leftists would like seen done here).
"That doesn't align with actual crime statistics in Sweden, and the idea of a dramatic increase in rapes because of refugees has been debunked. Sweden does have a high rate of rape, but that is attributed to a broader legal definition of rape and a higher rate of reporting among women compared with other countries."
"
From Swedish sources themselves.
Typical conservatives, always twisting the truth :)
No Fly - I'm saying 5 crimes among hundreds of thousands is not going to be noticed. That's the very reason Reuters and you would turn to such documentation rather than current, on the scene reports from a police officer that actually knows.
Are you really this stupid? Do you honestly not see how stupid and desperate you sound?
Please explain your lack of concern to the Swedish police investigator - I'm sure he'll be impressed by your total disregard of reality, lack of credentials and grip of reality.
When Italians emigrated to other countries they didn't bring a perverted 'religious' cult with them, hell bent of the destruction of infidels.
"But as Reuters pointed out, this is not the case: "Sweden's crime rate has fallen since 2005, official statistics show, even as it has taken in hundreds of thousands of immigrants from war-torn countries like Syria and Iraq."
No, you've proven nothing. Those five crimes happened in the last few weeks. They're not enough of them to show squat - and, are your stats that current? Go ahead, lie to me.
"What we’re hearing is a very, very extreme exaggeration based on a few isolated events, and the claim that it’s related to immigration is more or less not true at all,” Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminologist at Stockholm University'
"so there’s been mass immigration in the past three years from Muslim-majority countries — but the number of reported rapes has remained steady and even declined slightly in 2015."
And I can show you countless of crimes commited by non muslims.
Does that mean the swedes need ot kick out the swedes?
How about the neo nazis who committed the attack? By your logic, we need to get rid of the whites!
Yes. Muslims commit crimes. So does every other race.
The point is, there is not significant increase in crimes conservatards, who have never been to sweden, talk of.
Trump is too lazy to read the intelligence reports, he'd rather get his news from Fake Fox News....and look what happened, he stuck his proverbial foot in his mouth again.
That data refers to people who DIDN'T have Obamacare or any insurane, which is why Obama felt the need to place in Obamacare
Have you even looked at the website you gave? That is the Obamacare website. Aka, it is supporting Obamacare by saying "look, this is how many people die without Obamacare or any insurance"
I have been collecting screen shots of conservatives making idiots out of themselves and you just blew my collection away
You state how Obamacare has killed people..
Then you give me the OBAMACARE site where it states WHY they need to place in Obamacare and how many people die WITHOUT obamacare or any isurance
LOL!
1 in 4 Swedish Women Will Be Raped as Sexual Assaults Increase 500% Sweden now has the second highest number of rapes in the world, after South Africa, which at 53.2 per 100,000 is six times higher than the United States. Statistics now suggest that 1 out of every 4 Swedish women will be raped.
"First, the rape rate in Sweden is baseline higher than in other European countries. This is mostly because of a change in Swedish law in 2005 that expanded the definition of rape (including having sex with someone while they’re sleeping) and started counting each instance of sexual violence as a separate attack. Klara Selin, a sociologist at Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention, explained what this means in a 2012 interview with the BBC"
"“The major explanation is partly that people go to the police more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape much wider than before,” Selin told the BBC.
So if there had been a huge surge in sexual assault, this would show up in the overall stats given the huge number of immigrants coming into the country and the relatively large number of Swedish women who report being abused. But that has not happened."
In 1975, the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the former homogeneous Sweden into a multicultural country. Forty years later the dramatic consequences of this experiment emerge: violent crime has increased by 300%.
If one looks at the number of rapes, however, the increase is even worse. In 1975, 421 rapes were reported to the police; in 2014, it was 6,620. That is an increase of 1,472%.
Sweden is now number two on the global list of rape countries. According to a survey from 2010, Sweden, with 53.2 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants, is surpassed only by tiny Lesotho in Southern Africa, with 91.6 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants.
According to figures published by The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brottsförebyggande rådet; known as Brå) - an agency under the Ministry of Justice - 29,000 Swedish women, during 2011, reported that they had been raped (which seems to indicate that less than 25% of the rapes are reported to the police).
Over the past 10-15 years, immigrants have mainly come from Muslim countries such as Iraq, Syria and Somalia. Might this mass influx explain Sweden's rape explosion? It is difficult to give a precise answer, because Swedish law forbids registration based on people's ancestry or religion. One possible explanation is that, on average, people from the Middle East have a vastly different view of women and sex than Scandinavians have. And despite the attempts by the Swedish establishment to convince the population that everyone setting foot on Swedish soil becomes exactly like those who have lived here for dozens of generations, facts point in an altogether different direction.
""First, the rape rate in Sweden is baseline higher than in other European countries. This is mostly because of a change in Swedish law in 2005 that expanded the definition of rape (including having **** with someone while they’re sleeping) and started counting each instance of sexual violence as a separate attack. Klara Selin, a sociologist at Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention, explained what this means in a 2012 interview with the BBC"
....
If there had been a huge surge in sexual assault, this would show up in the overall stats given the huge number of immigrants coming into the country and the relatively large number of Swedish women who report being abused. But that has not happened."
Your statement right there shows just how stupid you are.
if someone claimed to murder my family, when they are in reality alive an well, am I defending murderers?
No, I'm stating a fact when I say there was no murder of my family LOL
Just like how I'm proving there is no sudden huge increase in rape due to immigrants; the "increases" are from change of definition
Does it mean rape is okay?
Nope, just shows that there is no huge increase with relation to immigration of muslims
Please, keep talking. I collect screenshots of conservatives with faulty logic :)
You are truly the most foolish person I have ever encountered. You are completely immune to reason, and a detriment to any society unfortunate enough to have you as a citizen.
By not wasting time watching ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, or CNN.
Trump’s comments during a Florida campaign rally on Saturday – which some took as a misstatement about a supposed terror attack – dovetail with what Swedish police investigator Peter Springare has been seeing during a typical week in Orebro, Sweden. Five rapes, three assaults, a pair of extortions, blackmail, an attempted murder, violence against police and a robbery made up Springare’s caseload for a five-day period earlier this month, according to a Feb. 3 Facebook post he wrote. The suspects were all from Muslim-majority countries – Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia and Turkey – save for one Swedish man nabbed in a drug-related case.
It seems like McFly may be missing the point of the story, which is there has been a massive social cost associated with the refugee policies and the immigration policies of Western Europe.
Tell trump to be an adult and learn to speak properly
He clearly said "last night"
What was you surpeme leader referring to as in "last night? LOL
and he clearly did NOT say 'actual terrorist attack.' He was referring to the increase rape, murder, violence and 'no go' zones in Sweden. If you followed European and World news you'd know that has become a problem.
So what happened specifically "LAST NIGHT" that he was referring to? :)
Did all that increase happen in that one night?.. LOL
And show me data that there is an actual overall increase in those crimes to
Otherwise you and Trump are merrely just.. talk. talk but no walk haha
If you are currently living in Europe like I am, you'd know what you're talking about. There's crime. Sure. There always has been, muslims or not.
Try again :)
He did NOT say terrorist attack and he was referring to a program on Sweden's cover-up of the problems the 'migrant' population has caused in Sweden. And so you are aware, if you publicly disagree with the Swedish Government you can be jailed and prosecuted as being anti-social (what some leftists would like seen done here).
"That doesn't align with actual crime statistics in Sweden, and the idea of a dramatic increase in rapes because of refugees has been debunked. Sweden does have a high rate of rape, but that is attributed to a broader legal definition of rape and a higher rate of reporting among women compared with other countries."
"
From Swedish sources themselves.
Typical conservatives, always twisting the truth :)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/n...220-story.html
The investigator mentioned five crimes - five. I doubt that five crimes would make a blip in a whole countries crime stats.
So...
You're telling me that your data is insignificant in the grand scheme of things?
Great. THANKS!
Cause you have proven, that while there may be crime from immigrants, there is many more from swedish nationals themselves.
No Fly - I'm saying 5 crimes among hundreds of thousands is not going to be noticed. That's the very reason Reuters and you would turn to such documentation rather than current, on the scene reports from a police officer that actually knows.
Are you really this stupid? Do you honestly not see how stupid and desperate you sound?
Do you see how stupid and desperate you sound?
yes. 5 crimes.
Now tell me, how does equal a surge of crimes relating to muslim immigration?
Where is that "massive social cost"? LOL
When Italians came to America, were they all perfect?
No, you can bet some committed crimes.
Did that make Italian immigration an issue in general?
No.
LOL
Please explain your lack of concern to the Swedish police investigator - I'm sure he'll be impressed by your total disregard of reality, lack of credentials and grip of reality.
When Italians emigrated to other countries they didn't bring a perverted 'religious' cult with them, hell bent of the destruction of infidels.
I'm starting to hate this freakin guy Budwick. I don't think that he has an opinion on anything other than Trump.
Fly is his own worst enemy. He is 'out there', no one is taking him seriously. I enjoy toying with him, like a cat plays with a ball of yarn.
"But as Reuters pointed out, this is not the case: "Sweden's crime rate has fallen since 2005, official statistics show, even as it has taken in hundreds of thousands of immigrants from war-torn countries like Syria and Iraq."
LOLOL
You think Reuters has a better handle on Sweden's crime than a Swedish Police investigator?
I think statistics showing whether there is more crime than not is more important than one officer. yes
I basically proved your point wrong; there is no increase in crime due to immigrants.
Awesome :)
No, you've proven nothing. Those five crimes happened in the last few weeks. They're not enough of them to show squat - and, are your stats that current? Go ahead, lie to me.
"What we’re hearing is a very, very extreme exaggeration based on a few isolated events, and the claim that it’s related to immigration is more or less not true at all,” Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminologist at Stockholm University'
"so there’s been mass immigration in the past three years from Muslim-majority countries — but the number of reported rapes has remained steady and even declined slightly in 2015."
Ahh, when conservatives go against actual data..
LOL
And I can show you countless of crimes commited by non muslims.
Does that mean the swedes need ot kick out the swedes?
How about the neo nazis who committed the attack? By your logic, we need to get rid of the whites!
Yes. Muslims commit crimes. So does every other race.
The point is, there is not significant increase in crimes conservatards, who have never been to sweden, talk of.
You and Chump suggested it, I prove you wrong. With actual data
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/2...mmigrant-crime
Campaign rally.....really??
That, to me, says it all.....
I can admit I know little.
But more so than those who support Trump and think the only attacks are by Muslims
I know you want to eliminate those who disagree with you,
But that's not how America works
Trump is too lazy to read the intelligence reports, he'd rather get his news from Fake Fox News....and look what happened, he stuck his proverbial foot in his mouth again.
Atleast Obama left it in a better shape than the conservatives and Bush left it
Listen. You may want to take your supreme leader as perfect, but I don't.
It's sad how you don't realize the importance of vetting a man with this much power... sigh..
Show me where Obamacare directly killed that many people
And that he raised debt by that much
Wouldn't want to be without proof, would you? :)
No data to easily back up your words?
Well, I guess your words are worth nothing
Nice try :)
For what?
I never insulted you; I pointed out how you repeatedly stated things without data.
A fact.
I'm not going to apologise just because I disagree with you; that is not morally wrong lol...
Show me where I said you were lying.
You still have not given any data :)
Keep talking, this only adds more to my point haha
Nope, I could also be insuinuating that you are misinformed
You could honestly believe the statement you told me
But unless you have proven them with data.. it's not fact
Hope I cleared that up for you! :D
Btw? Still no data seen... haha
"between 2005 and 2010"...
SO BEFORE OBAMACARE WAS PUT INTO PLACED?
HAHAHA OMG
I'm going to screen shot this and save it, it is so funny I am crying!
You are a idiot..
That data refers to people who DIDN'T have Obamacare or any insurane, which is why Obama felt the need to place in Obamacare
Have you even looked at the website you gave? That is the Obamacare website. Aka, it is supporting Obamacare by saying "look, this is how many people die without Obamacare or any insurance"
YOU ARE SO FUNNY!
But the data of deaths you gave me were taken from BEFORE Obamacare was put in
LOL!
https://www.theatlantic.com/int...nistan/499007/
Ahh, you mean how most of the Debt under Obama came from military spending for the War conservatives and Bush voted for?
nice try :)
Well, you guys asked for a war that is continuing costing us trillions.
Didn't someone ever tell you; you want something- you gotta pay for it HAH
And Bush and the people who supported him resulted in a war
Please, keep talking. I collect screenshots of conservatives with faulty logic.
Just like the obamacare one you gave me. Oh god that was priceless :D
Silence?
Have I not been responding to you?
or are you unable to comprehend the English words I've been typing
In fact, only YOU gave out personal insults by stating "you do not know much do you.."
You are amazing you know that?
I have been collecting screen shots of conservatives making idiots out of themselves and you just blew my collection away
You state how Obamacare has killed people..
Then you give me the OBAMACARE site where it states WHY they need to place in Obamacare and how many people die WITHOUT obamacare or any isurance
LOL!
And I just destroyed those facts.
I'm still laughing about the Obamacare one.. Haha oh dear..
between "2005 and 2010"
OH GOD THAT WAS HILARIOUS.
You are amazing :)
http://www.amirite.com/802718-w...-at-its-lowest
Our debt (this graph was done recently during Obama's times) as a percentage of our GDP is at our lowest.
Things Conservatives will never understand..
Platinum: Tells me of the deaths Obamacare has caused
Then gives me data of deaths during a time period Obamacare didnt exist.
YOU ARE HILARIOUS.
And I can see why I never agree with you (thank god)
1 in 4 Swedish Women Will Be Raped as Sexual Assaults Increase 500%
Sweden now has the second highest number of rapes in the world, after South Africa, which at 53.2 per 100,000 is six times higher than the United States. Statistics now suggest that 1 out of every 4 Swedish women will be raped.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/poi...iel-greenfield
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/2...mmigrant-crime
If you think i'm going to trust a new source whose objective is to biased..
LOL
"First, the rape rate in Sweden is baseline higher than in other European countries. This is mostly because of a change in Swedish law in 2005 that expanded the definition of rape (including having sex with someone while they’re sleeping) and started counting each instance of sexual violence as a separate attack. Klara Selin, a sociologist at Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention, explained what this means in a 2012 interview with the BBC"
"“The major explanation is partly that people go to the police more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape much wider than before,” Selin told the BBC.
So if there had been a huge surge in sexual assault, this would show up in the overall stats given the huge number of immigrants coming into the country and the relatively large number of Swedish women who report being abused. But that has not happened."
nice try :)
Sweden: Rape Capital of the West
In 1975, the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the former homogeneous Sweden into a multicultural country. Forty years later the dramatic consequences of this experiment emerge: violent crime has increased by 300%.
If one looks at the number of rapes, however, the increase is even worse. In 1975, 421 rapes were reported to the police; in 2014, it was 6,620. That is an increase of 1,472%.
Sweden is now number two on the global list of rape countries. According to a survey from 2010, Sweden, with 53.2 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants, is surpassed only by tiny Lesotho in Southern Africa, with 91.6 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants.
According to figures published by The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brottsförebyggande rådet; known as Brå) - an agency under the Ministry of Justice - 29,000 Swedish women, during 2011, reported that they had been raped (which seems to indicate that less than 25% of the rapes are reported to the police).
https://www.gatestoneinstitute....95/sweden-rape
And I just gave you data as to WHY there has been a huge increase in rape incidents
There was a change in the definition..
It's explained above..
Lol, just cause you dont agree with the facts, don't mean they don't exist hun :)
Over the past 10-15 years, immigrants have mainly come from Muslim countries such as Iraq, Syria and Somalia. Might this mass influx explain Sweden's rape explosion? It is difficult to give a precise answer, because Swedish law forbids registration based on people's ancestry or religion. One possible explanation is that, on average, people from the Middle East have a vastly different view of women and sex than Scandinavians have. And despite the attempts by the Swedish establishment to convince the population that everyone setting foot on Swedish soil becomes exactly like those who have lived here for dozens of generations, facts point in an altogether different direction.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute....95/sweden-rape
And again... I just explained this "explosion" of rape is due to a change in definition
Lol..
keep going
""First, the rape rate in Sweden is baseline higher than in other European countries. This is mostly because of a change in Swedish law in 2005 that expanded the definition of rape (including having **** with someone while they’re sleeping) and started counting each instance of sexual violence as a separate attack. Klara Selin, a sociologist at Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention, explained what this means in a 2012 interview with the BBC"
....
If there had been a huge surge in sexual assault, this would show up in the overall stats given the huge number of immigrants coming into the country and the relatively large number of Swedish women who report being abused. But that has not happened."
You tendency to avoid facts is funny, kepe going and entertain me :)
Why do you defend rapists? Do you secretly want to be raped? Or do you just hate western liberal society and seek its destruction?
Your statement right there shows just how stupid you are.
if someone claimed to murder my family, when they are in reality alive an well, am I defending murderers?
No, I'm stating a fact when I say there was no murder of my family LOL
Just like how I'm proving there is no sudden huge increase in rape due to immigrants; the "increases" are from change of definition
Does it mean rape is okay?
Nope, just shows that there is no huge increase with relation to immigration of muslims
Please, keep talking. I collect screenshots of conservatives with faulty logic :)
You are truly the most foolish person I have ever encountered. You are completely immune to reason, and a detriment to any society unfortunate enough to have you as a citizen.
Agreed.