If you believe President Trump is not a pathological liar, what evidence would it take to change your mind?
His narcissism is more of a concern to me.
The lies come wirh the flawed pyche
They tapdance around everything that is just such a blatant lie finding such skinflint evidence that makes no sense whatsoever
Not a damn thing. The government is running just as poorly as it has been forever. The only good news is that Hillary isn't part of it. Ha!
That's it! I've been so silly. I should have been asking myself, what would Siddhartha Gautama do?
The problem is not that our president is unstable. It's that I want a stable president in the first place.
Yep, and I am sure she seconds that.
Trump wouldn't have any power if people didn't elect him. No matter what bad he does, his supporters defend him. That freaks me out.
You would ask to be induced back for...4....more....years
Took the words from my mouth!
Oh good god. I'd knock myself back out.
I'm alive! I'm alive!! Oh wait. What was that you just said about the current president?
I'm just waiting for a few months to see what gets done and what doesn't. I'll reserve judgment until then.
Take away his ability to launch thermonuclear weapons and it's a done deal! I'd be much more comfortable with Pence having control of that decision.
I keep asking myself.. Am I overreacting? Or am I under-reacting? You don't really know until it all plays out.
Frankly, I automatically assume any candidate, and therefore any officeholder, to be a pathological liar. As much as I hate assumptions, some are justified. Even a genuinely concerned candidate becomes a pathogical liar once elected simply because you have to play the game to get anything done. That will not change as long as the people accept it.
Then is there ever a point at which the President's lying becomes unacceptable to you? (rhetorical question) I guess a lot of us are already there.
It is always unacceptable to me, Phil. That I recognize something does not equate to condoning it.
Of course not. I'm sorry to have given you that impression.
I reason that at some point it is in the country's best interests to give control over to the VP (and I loath Pence). Would constant lying ever cause you to think this way? How about subterfuge? Hypotheticals.
I found both to be very real (no hypotheticals necessary) with the last two presidents...yet I admit to finding their VPs even less palatable.
As far as the current resident, I honestly do not (as yet, at any rate) see him purposely formulating lies.
Yes, this president deliberately lies. He has bragged about lying in his book.
What book has he written since taing office, Dru?
Did I say,"since he took office"?
Then I fail to see your point, Dru.
Of course you do. The "point" is, is that Trump is a compulsive liar, and has carried that little personality quirk over to the Oval Office.
They all lie. I believe I covered that in my original post. I also said I do not (as yet) see him purposely forming lies. I think it's a given that you do. So, once again and unsurprisingly, we disagree. Have a good weekend, Dru.
"My Electoral College victory was the biggest since Reagan"
"Three to five million illegals voted" "That's why I lost the popular vote."
Lied about Chris Cuomo not asking Sen. Blumenthal about him falsifying his service in Vietnam
Feb. 7, 2017: Lied that the murder rate was the highest in 45 years
Lied that Obama had him wiretapped.
And the list goes on.
Thank you, you too. :)
Again Dru, I do not believe is is purposely forming lies. You do. 'Nuff said.
He's lying 'accidentally'?
Otay, have a good one.
No, Dru, I do not believe he sits there thinking up lies to tell the public. He makes a lot of stupid, off-the-cuff remarks based on tidbits of information, just like people everywhere have a tendency to do. The problem with that is that he is the president and he immediately tweets everything without properly vetting it.
He needs to get his act together,...and fast. It is a steep learning curve and he better start climbing. That is, if he is really being innocently careless, and not trying to distract.
Obama never Lied ???????????
Not like Trump, he never did! Shit, I don't know of anyone who lies like Trump!!
I voted for Trump.He's the first President that doesn't take Sh-T from anyone.I think he's doing great.The Liberal cry babies should grow up.I couldn't stand to listen to Obama.I put up with 8 yrs.Of that do nothing President. Conservitives don't act like idiot Liberals.We act more like adults.
"Liberal crybabies"?! YOU wish that was the only group that can't stand Trump!
He's doing a great job?
His tweet's are lies, (that is the ones, anyone can actually understand) We all thought he had stroke during that last one.
He adores brutal murdering dictators.
He despises a 'free press'.
He had disdain for our allies even though they have stood by our side during the last century's wars.
He pulled out of the Paris Agreement, which in the long run is going to cost us thousands of jobs in clean energy. (What? You think 'Coal' is going to last us forever?!) New Technology now lies firmly in the hands of Europe, with the United States coming in dead last.
Yeah, he's doing a bang up job.
Fair enough. I appreciate your frankness.
What concern me the most is the constant badgering by the left and the media and much is about nothing - I mean nothing at all - total BS, made up allegations, vapor.
It doesn't bother you at all that he just pulls "facts" out of his behind. msot of which are incorrect? It doesn't bother you at all that he makes pronouncements (Obama had my wires tapped) but refuses to provide any facts to support the claim? It doesn't bother you that he has filled cabinet positions with people who have no experience in that area (Betsy Vos, Ben Carson)? It doesn't bother you that Ben Carson thinks that African Americans came here as immigrants?
Please name a fact pulled from his ass.
Obama DID have his phones tapped. It was in the NYT in January!
Inexperienced cabinet members that are honest and conservative are far superior to experienced lefties.
Immigrant - a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country. What's your problem? Doesn't fit your narrative?
122 Terrorists released from Gitmo by Obama. False.
A wiretap has to be authorized by a FISA court which doesn't issue them without some basis.
"Honest" cabinent members like Michel Flynn, you mean?
I'll give you the definition of "immigrant", in the literal sense, but we all know they were brought here as slaves not because they wanted to come here.
Obama tapped no one.
Intellegence agencies regularly listen to foriegn opperatives.
If trump was tapped, there was a court order to do so.
Throwing out unfounded accusations is eazy for him. He can do what he wants.
He cant be sued. No accountability.
And you who let this pass amaze me.
I get that they all lie. But if these in your face, blatant untruths are so easy for him, what else is he going to pull?
You were so up in arms about people being crooks.
In your face, provable slander, is unlawful.
Not according to New York Times Jan 20, 2017.
Says nothing about obama.
There is no evidence that obama ordered anything specifically invoving
Calling for an investigation on russian interference should have been ordered.
Investigations go were evidence leads
That's true! And, probably just anyone could have ordered a wire tap on a presidential candidate, amirite?
I would welcome an investigation on Russian interference. I think they looking for evidence of a crime being committed before launching an investigation. (Hint: It never happened.)
Well, we shall see what we shall see.
I am reserving the right to be smug(just in case) :)
Yes, yes, ... of course. Your smug-a-tude is always expected.
She said with a smuggish grin.
The root cause of the problem in my opinion is our President's need to stroke his own ego, and in this case on Twitter. You can't really blame the media for picking up on some of his more dubious (I'm being kind) claims.
"Anything to destroy him"?! Do you know how much FREE news coverage that Trump got last summer? With most of it coming from cable news. I would say CNN had a hand in ELECTING him!
You totally missed the point. I was talking about how they actually helped Trump, while pounding on Hilary's emails like she was a terrorist. So the media has not always been against him. But after his bird brain tweets, giving Russia classified intelligence,trying to kill planet Earth,alienating our allies, and basically being an asshole, I cant' blame them for wanting to smoke his ass.
What concerns me more is what I am gonna wear this coming Saturday to the family dinner we have every two weeks
Yep, that pretty much sums up the silent majority. We are here
quietly wondering what those funny people in the pink pointed beanies will do when we get our voices heard. We don't march, scream at town halls, obstruct speakers, curse or trash our surroundings. We will just let them wear themselves out being silly.
A few comments:
1) People are "bashing" this President with his own baseless tweets. Would you rather we all give him a free pass and let his questionable accusations go unchecked?
2) Regarding the letter from the "deplorables".. taking up arms against your fellow countrymen, at the request of the head of the Executive Branch, is un-American. You would not be defending the Constitution at that point.
3) The letter mentioned a "soft coup". Do you know that they're talking about?
4) I want an investigation into Trump's claim of wiretapping by the former president. That's an extremely serious charge.
I guess the degree which Trump supporters do not care....from your choices I hope I got that right...:)
It could just be a job to him.
What really concerns me is the degree to which everyone is completely obsessed with D J Trump. He's just one branch of the government; nobody talks about the other 2. Just the president. The other 2 each have equal power; have you ever thought about what is fucked up about them? No? That's because of the media.
President Trump accused the former president of tapping his phone lines, but provided no evidence to support this accusation. Don't you think that's fucked up?
Do you agree that this president is lying like no other?
No, I do not.
Look up Agenda 21 and what sustainability really means for the future. Because of Trump they had to postpone their plans back to Agenda 28 so we got a few years before they get their wish.
I just did, but I fail to see its relevance to this post.
The globalization plan Agenda 21 was supposed to happen with Clinton in on it. Trump messed up that plan because he doesn't answer to any of them. That is the good thing about Trump
that lying democrats who claimed to be tolerant and against hate started showing intolerance and hate when they lost. what concerns me is that they are still acting like spoiled brats because they lost, what concerns me is how many people believe the FAKE MSM news on Trump. what concerns me is the hypocrisy of the left, like when Obama said USA must regulate immigration and kick out illegal immigrations, or but a travel ban in 2011, or when Bush, or CLINTON said we mus regulate immigration and deport illegal immigration and liberals praised Obama and CLinton, yet when Trump plagerizes those democrat leaders, is called racist. etc etc
Oh wow, let me see,.... yep, FALSELY accusing a former president of wiretapping is NOT serious.
Obamacare gave insurance to over 20 million people, thanks to the subsidies and the medicaid expansion.
Major medical organizations do not want it repealed. They know it will leave many of their patients with no way to pay.
Why won't Trump listen to those on the front lines of healthcare???
He just wants to help the big insurance companies get richer and richer so they will keep funding elections. smh
Well, Trump's is about to get a big kick in the ass (another) because many of the Red States have gotten pretty use to having ObamaCare.
I hope so!
Trump would deserve protests bigger than anything he has seen yet. He is talking human rights now!
Dippy if you knew 'anything' about ObamaCare, the new GOP proposal, or ANYTHING about America, (except for the fact that we left you morons in the dust over 200 years ago) we would all fall over dead.
sure, obamacare made insurance unaffordable, and fined those who could not afford it for not paying into it, nice try, obamacare is bad
Awww.... did somebody make you take down your response to me?
Best to keep it like that, since your replies are being taken down faster than you put them up.
I just read an article from the Washington Post with the title "Repealing the Affordable Care Act will kill more than 43,000 people annually". If that is what you are referring to, I agree that is a serious (and outlandish) claim.
(Jan. 23, 2017)
Not to nitpick, but I still think a person or people undermining our democratic process as being more serious.
I didn't communicate that very well. I think the 43,000 deaths annually is extremely dubious. That's why I threw it out there.
References for the 22,000-45,000 death figures?
because you liberals NEVER blame previous presidents of stuff right? hypocrites