I'm hard-working, love beer and bread, and dislike small talk. Guess my parentage.
Hmmm, think I'm going to have to go with Irish.
Not a bad guess, as I'm part Irish, but mostly I'm German.
Ahhh ok....if you would have said "barrel rolling at family functions" I would have gone with German.
Blonde hair, fair complexion and I drink tea all the time..... German/English
If drinking tea is a stereotype of a German, then I hit that mark!
Of course I always just assumed it was the southern sweet ice tea that I fell in love with.
Actually the English drink the most tea.
I definitely dance like a white person. If I don't tie my hands those fingers will be snapping like I'm Tom Jones taking Vegas.
I am hard working, got a temper that is long as a country mile, I consider Fried Chicken a food group, and I spend more time barefoot than I do wearing shoes
I was born with an anatomy that allowed me to grasp objects. I learned to walk upright, developed a personality, and self awareness at a very young age (around 2 years old I guess). Language and creativity followed quickly.
Pretty much all the things one associates with a typical human.
Well obviously I'm trying to take over the world haha. 乂^◡^乂
Damn.. me too I can't even make fun of you. :)
Ah Canadian. :)
I work way to many hours and accept handouts from nobody. I drink beer and own a truck. Oh yeah I love apple pie, and pork chops have to have apple sauce. :)
I'm white, I work hard, I don't feel badly about that.
Working hard and not feeling bad about it is a stereotype for whites?
'White privilege" I think the progressives call it.
So more along the lines of "I'm white, I have a good paying job, and don't feel badly about it."
I do not require your correction. I said what I meant.
But what you said didn't make any sense. You said that working hard is a white privilege. Are you saying other races don't work hard?
You asked - "Are you saying other races don't work hard?"
Not at all!
I'm saying that working hard and not feeling bad about it is a white stereotype. Progressives keep telling us that whites should feel bad about it , but I don't.
[Amazing how you can take something I've said, and change it into something totally unrelated with twisted meaning. If you had asked for political stereotypes - that would have been a dandy!]
But being a hard worker isn't a privilege.....the fact that you have the job at all is the privilege. Regardless of how hard you work. Your drive is simply a reflection on who you are. No one can give you that.
I can only respond to the words you post Bud..it always helps if you support your stance. What progressives are telling you that "working hard and not feeling bad about it" is a stereotype for whites or white privilege?
The ones that bitch about white privilege.
Having a job may be a privilege, but it is a privilege earned - not given. It is my belief that anyone could earn the same privilege. Progressives seem to think that all I did to earn it was to be born white.
Well that is no doubt extreme thinking.....just as extreme as those that think inherent racial inequality in the work environment is just a myth. A job is no doubt a privilege you earn. But your earning it is not a decision that is left up to you. It is left up to the opinion of the person that hires you. Unless you can read the person's mind that hired you....you really have no idea what factors could have possibly gone into you being hired. You're simply trusting that it was your own abilities. Which we all do because who truly wants to feel like their success is a gimme? I would like to think white privilege is far from being the norm as far as behavior goes...but I think denying its existence would be quite ignorant.
Prod - back in the day we started working early in life. We did jobs that anyone could do for entry level, minimum wage. We did our jobs well, earning our street cred, and referrals for future jobs. The following jobs were more challenging, required more responsibility and paid more. Again, worked hard and earned more street cred.
Anyone of any race could do the same thing - many have. More haven't and simply complained that they can't make a living doing entry level work.
My earning is certainly a decision of mine! I wasn't told where to go, what job to take, which to refuse.
I'm not that young Bud, lol.....I cut lawns....got my first job when I was 14 doing landscaping and sweating my balls off all summer long. Sure I worked hard and earned it. My work ethic has followed me my entire life and it has helped me be successful at pretty much anything I try to do. And I agree with you....anybody of any race could put as much effort towards it as I did.
But the point I'm trying to make is that our success in life isn't fully in our hands. Sure it was your decision on where to work, where not to work. But wherever you did work had the FINAL say on whether or not you would work there. You only had the chance to work there because they offered you that chance. You're only trusting that it was 100% your qualifications that gave you that opportunity. And hopefully it was. But I think it's hard to definitively say that. I've been to a few conferences the reps from the employment commission in my state puts on and discriminatory practices in hiring and terminating are no myth.
You mean, we don't always get what we want?
Discrimination really happens?
I didn't work places where I wasn't offered a job?
You needed a conference to learn these things?
Prod - The government won't speak clearly to the events in Roswell, 1948. So, according to your logic, shall we assume that there must be reason to believe that aliens visited the planet?
I need to trust that it was my qualifications that gave me the opportunity? It's hard for progressives to definitively say that because it doesn't fit their agenda. It's far easier and more productive to insert undeserved doubt, create another victim class, assert that I got my jobs because I'm white. I find this kind of thinking quite offensive.
Roswell: No we shouldn't assume....but we shouldn't eliminate the possibility. Do you really require things to be clearly spoken before you'll bother contemplating their possibility? I'd find that a tough way to live...but I will say it sounds simplistic.. To each their own.
You kind of contradict yourself Bud. You poke fun at simple assertions I make about the existence of hiring discrimination and the hiring to be in the hands of the employer...yet then you shun (and even call it offensive) the idea that societal factors could have played any role in your own career successes. You almost act like this hasn't been going on for decades and decades when you talk about "creating another victim class."
Prod - You have made it sound as if employees have no control over where they work or what they do - and that is absurd. Sure, the employer needs to make an offer - but I need to accept or reject too. It's really not tough to live that way at all.
I never denied discrimination. In fact I poked fun at your pointing it out as some kind of revelation. You also made a big deal that we don't always get the jobs we wanted. And, we can't simply have the jobs we want. Your positions a kind of goofy IMO.
Societal factors must have played a role in my career?
Really? So, I applied for a job that sounded good to me. I had qualifications and supporting experience. But, societal factors must have played a role in my getting the job? And, my skepticism of societal factors in this scenario is simplistic? I find your conspiracy theories tough to live with.
I may have not gotten opportunities I've tried for because of some kind of discrimination I suppose. But, why would I want to work for a jag wad like that anyway? I'm not interested in becoming the latest victim. I'm more interested in moving on and gaining some level of success. I don't think my way of thinking is universal. You, yourself have discarded it. Some have discarded it profusely and labeled my way of getting through life as white privilege - like, the only reason it worked for me is because I'm white. To that I say - Bull-oney.
Bud it's hard to keep this going when you continue changing my words around. Misinterpreting is one thing but flat out changing what I say is another.
-Never said I thought employees had zero control over their employment decisions. We are talking jobs and white privilege and the privilege comes into play with the idea that white people get hired. An alleged privilege given to an employee by the employer. Whether an employee wants to work there really isn't relevant to the discussion.
-My revelation of there being employment discrimination is simply a response to you bringing up the idea of a conspiracy theory allowing for a new class of victims to speak up. I was just voicing a reminder that this is not a new class of victims and this is not a conspiracy theory issue. I'm also not implying it's only white on minority discrimination.
-Never did I say societal factors MUST have played a role in your career...I said it COULD have just as easily as they could have played in mine. I've been in a waiting room waiting to interview and seen a black man sitting across from me waiting as well. I know I was qualified for the job and gave a good interview...but I couldn't tell you what kind of interview the other candidates gave and if me being white, male, etc had anything to do with me being chosen over them. It wouldn't be the first time it has happened.
It's good that you are able to ignore the possibilities and move on...it's what I do as well because like you've said about yourself I'm qualified and feel I'm deserving of it....so I don't feel bad about the fact I have a job either. But I understand the reality that it's not so easy a circumstance for everyone. A lot of this is a question of trusting your fellow human. And some have centuries worth of reasons not to trust. The fact they fight and voice their opinion rather than be silent to it is their way of not being victims.
Honest. Crave tea. Can do the squat/kick dance…ever tried it whilst dribbling a basketball or juggling?
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