2. Dead Birds. How many dead birds have you actually seen in your life? I've been all across this Country. I can say I've maybe seen 10 actual dead birds in my life. Obviously I'm not including chickens nor Turkey. The thing is it has been estimated that there are 400 billion birds besides chickens and Turkey flying around at any given time. Roughly 54 birds for every human alive. The average lifespan of these birds is between 3-5 years. So roughly 100 billion birds die every year. Where are the dead birds? What are the natural predators who can keep up with the sheer numbers of bird bodies where I'm only likely to see a couple dozen in a lifetime? Think about it. For those who jump to "insects" as those predators.. boy does it get weird from there. :)
Ants, other animals, other birds. Where I live, a dead animal (cat/dog...larger than a bird), will disappear completely within 10 days.
How many dead birds have you seen. :)
8 in the last week
Did you kill them?
I don't usually find dead birds, only feathers. Where did they go? Probably the stomach of the neighboring cats.
The only thing weirder than never seeing a dead bird is seeing what you thought was a dead bird seemingly come back to life.
A story to further pique your curiosity...
My son found a dead bird on the side of our house. I picked the bird up with a shovel, carried it to my trashcan in the back, put it in and closed the lid. The next day my son went to take out the trash. Imagine his surprise when he opened the lid to put the trash bag in and a bird flew out.
From this true story you should be able to tell me not only how this is possible, but what kind of bird I'm referring to with a bit of digging.
You down? lol
I see dead birds all the time, but dead from cats. Saw a mourning dove smacked by an auto just a couple of days ago. But....none of natural causes.
Other birds and bugs have to be doing the clean up. Very little body mass
And for kicks I shall add that DWF recently added a "Post a song from 2003". That was Way more difficult then it should have been!! Lol.
I simply could not come up with one worth posting.
I went through a LOT of bands looking for 2003. I was so happy when I found one! Was driving me nuts. :)
1. Everybody has 2 parents, 4 Grandparents, 8 great grandparents, simply this doubles every generation you go back. By the time you go back 40 generations, you would have 4,398,046,511,104 relatives. Go ahead and try 50 generations. 4,503,599,627,370,496 Relatives. Pretty sure that would outweigh the mass of Earth. Carl Sagan addressed this one once. I didn't buy it. I want to hear from you how this is possible?
Maybe that's why people have an expiration date.
Correct and if I knew my expiration date, I would be able to answer the musical question, "Do you have enough saved for your retirement?" I think I'm OK unless I live to be 104.
In the average family, members of only 2-4 generations are alive at any given time. Never have there been 40-50 generations of any family all alive at the same time.
And never have there been that many people alive on Earth in all of History combined. :)
Proof? Seriously, DW, how many people have existed throughout history?
Not enough to make up the entire mass of the Earth. Or for that matter the Sun at 60 generations. :)
Okay, DW...if you are doubling back 40 generations, i.e. counting your direct antecedents (parents + grandparents + great-grandparents...), theoretically, you would have 2,199,023,255,550 direct ancestors.
(2 + 4 + 8 + 16 + 32 + 64 + 128 + 256 + 512 + 1024 + 2048 + 4096 + 8192 + 16384 + 32768 + 65536 + 131072 + 262144 + 524288 + 1048576 + 2097152 + 4194304 + 8388608 + 16777216 + 33554432 + 67108864 + 134217728 + 268435456 + 536870912 + 1073741824 + 2147483648 + 4294967296 + 8589934592 + 17179869184 + 34359738368 + 68719476736 + 137438953472 + 274877906944 + 549755813888 + 1099511627776=2199023255550)
We don't have that many in actuality due to pedegree collapse...inbreeding, in other words. So while there are 2,199,023,255,550 direct positions in your ancestral lineage, they are not all unique individuals.
True, though the number increases exponentially going backwards either way. How many "generations" since Lucy 300,000 years ago?
Too many unknown variables, but as inbreeding increases in the lineage, actual ancestors decrease. Here's a model plugging in some assumptions.
By the way that was suppose to be 3 million. :)
I know. :)
At the same time the inbreeding decreases as well. Does the formula simply repeat itself over and over? Doesn't the same formula apply to each of those individuals on line 23 of the chart?
That model is just an extreme example to show the effects that inbreeding, however distant, has on a person's unique ancestors. I would imagine both inbreeding and outbreeding are constantly in flux, and each of us would - could we actually map our geneology all the way back, have a somewhat different, though similar pattern of increasing and decreasing unique ancestors. And they would all be interconnected.
Of course interconnected. I'm just not sure whether this provides more weight to Creationism, Evolution, or the Matrix theory. :)
It could fit any one of them. In the grand scheme of things, we were created. And even were we a simulation...who or what created the ones running the simulation? Does that make our pain any less? Our joys? Our "reality"? :)
Here's a question for you, DW...what if all three are true simultaneously?
They probably are. Though a Creator ?
A creator is really the only one that makes the other two sensible...but still begs the question of who created the creator.
And how many generations back. :)
Or forward...if one subscribes to the theory that our future selves created us and the matrix in which we live.
All cool, and terrible, ideas to ponder.
What Bozette said.
I started doing the math. Didnt get very far to realize the numbers were correct.
Should give a brand new perspective, regarding the us vs them ideals.
By the way the same math applies to 90% of the Animal Kingdom as well. :)
Anything that breeds:)
Apparently someone actually has the name Lana Drahrepus. Of course I have more to add to this particular thread, and shall do in future.
Watching the news and reading about 'New' Studies. The contradictions are phenomenal.
"Dark Matter" "Dark Energy" Black Holes.
You touched on the biomass of insects alone.
The 'edge' of the 'universe'.
The success of Mitch McConnell.
911 - seriously wtf! How?
How about the insanity of continuing to use dinosaur juice as a fuel when a-> we know it is destroying the air we breath and b-> there are cleaner options? [I do it too, I mean wtf?] (well not really a 'glitch in the matrix' but seriously wtf?)
I rarely see dead birds. The ones I have seen were probably either hit by cars or stalked by cats. The number is negligible.
How come there aren't any good, definitive books on death?