We all want our children to adopt a similar philosophy to ourselves (deep down, even if we encourage them to question everything and develop their own ideas), but there's a line crossed with these "camps" into disturbing cult-like influence.
My parents taught by example. They took us to church, but they didn't make us go.
Most Christian summer camps aren't like that. But the Pentecostal faith usually goes way over the top. I went to a summer camp one year. We said prayers when having a meal, which is a good thing. My family still does it. We had about an hour of bible study, and then it was crafts, swimming, fun and games. Nothing like what is portrayed in that video. Instead of teaching that's a scare tactic.
I don't push my religion, people have the right to believe what they want. I admire Obama, don't hate Trump, just hate what he's doing to our country. He's an embarrassment to all of us.
I will second that RT
Thank you for your reply.
I really think it is criminal what they do in these video's and there are many more of these type of video's.
I agree, it's more like cult thinking, and that's dangerous.
Kids need to be indoctrinated early for it to stick. Religions would have a difficult time surviving otherwise.
That being said, I think it's natural for parents to want to instill their "values" onto their own children. That has been happening since time immemorial.
There is a difference however to say to your kids, "I believe in this.... I would like it if you do too but do some research" to what thye do in the video. My heart breaks from those vulnerable kids.
Cultish behavior. Bottom line.
This is what I would describe as evil:
Yes. From birth these kids are indoctrinated. No choices. No honesty.
yeah kin dof like liberals and their kids, only liberals don;t like to stop at their own kids they want to force everyones kids to be indoctinated by liberals propaganda
Those people a fucking crazy. Jesus doesn't want his followers to behave like lunatics. That is NOT how a real Christian treats children; it's supposed to be gentle and loving, not maniacal.
I am glad you use the word fuck, that is how I feel and there are many more examples, with different churches and different kids.
It makes me very angry and yes, you are right they are NOT Christians. They are criminals and should be prosecuted.
That church is living by the Old Testament. Stone age stuff; barbaric. I don't think God minds if I use the word "fuck." I don't go to church; it think that people need to learn something as important as spirituality for themselves, not follow someone else's idea of what it means
I'm guessing then, that you are just as angry at Muslims who teach their children to hate Jews and anyone else who isn't Muslim?
I could only watch a few seconds of that, it reminded me of my parents lounge room on a larger scale when they became born again into some kind of fundamentalist branch of Catholicism and used to hold these strange gatherings yelling and shouting in a different language. It would scare the crap out of my sister and I, we would hide out the back. A couple of times they tried to force me to take part but I would get really upset and they would send me out. They had better luck with my sister because she was younger, but that didn't last long. I just never understood why they changed so drastically. Our family was never the same, we were never close again. We always felt that they swapped us for their religion. My dad has Alzheimers now and has vague memories. He's tried over the later years in his own way to get us closer again but my parents lost too many years emotionally detached from us for it to be repaired
It really is time that we start acknowledging the damage that the fundamental aspect of religion does and stop it.
I am so sorry to hear what happened to you. I don't blame your parents, I blame the church.
Thanks, and you are right about that. I've tried hard to block that part of my life out and move on. I'd been really successful but when my marriage ended and I was on my own, for some reason it brought it all back. My parents were just pawns in the whole thing although they had a responsibility to us kids. I think if they could have pursued it and left us out of it would have been much better for the family.
That is so sad.
It's been a constant struggle since to remain objective when it comes to religion but I think I'm doing ok mostly :) People on here for the most part have helped me keep things in perspective, but still I rarely talk about it.
I understand - I'm a very private person.
There is a definite creepy factor, to what I saw in that video. I have an uneasy feeling that any one those more impressionable children, might one day wield a "hammer" on more than a ceramic cup, in their passion to stamp out "sin" in the name of Jesus.
This is how you ruin humanity, by brainwashing gullible children, forcing your belief, telling them what to think. In the end you get brainwashed fanatic retards who can't think because they don't have anything else but what was forced down their throats!
My solution would be to slap the children to make them forget all the BS they were forced, punch the brainwashers even harder and educate children on all points of view and teach them to think so they can make their own rational decision!
I agree. "God and Jesus to send out the wrong message."
The same goes for other Gods like Allah and all the crimes that gets done and proselytized in His name. I mean suicide belts.... there is no difference between that and the video.
yeah you liberals are a fine one to speak
lol, evidence please. Hilary loves the KKK, some of her close friends are KKK members, yet you liberals love to lie and try to make republicans be the KKK lovers, lol
figures, no evidence yet you believe your BS to be true. typical ignorant liberal
try and deny words coming out of her own mouth if you wish. but she said it.
now prove your BS that we conservatives love KKK, when that is so far from the truth!
IT reminds me of the indoctrination of the kids is the churches that I just posted..... Exactly the same crime, sick really.
I like washing children's brains. You just have to be gentle with the scrub and at least try to avoid unnecessary oxidation. Rusty nerve-endings may cause the neurons to misfire, leading to psychological/cognitive impairment of various degrees. Such mishaps would, in practical sense, render the test subjects useless for further stages of suggestion via NLP and alternative techniques.
I teach by example, not by force.
Teaching children about God is one thing.
Hailing a lying traitor as messiah, is another.
So if we stay on the topic of my post are you then saying that the video is innocent and all it is a good thing as all it does is teaching children about God?
I've learned from previous discussions with you that 'staying on topic' is not one of your strong suits.
Says the man who talks about Obama when the post is about Christian children....
I will give you one more chance to give me a decent reply and keep in the spirit of this website of exchanging and debating opinions. .
I thought the topic was brainwashing!
[See what I mean? Not one of your strong suits.]
he is only pointing out your hypocricy! and the idiocy of the left
and what about indoctrination in pseudo science evolution? or in liberal beliefs about sex ed?
teaching kids about Jesus is not indoctrination, and parents have the choice, you liberals don't allow for choice, you force everyone to believe evolution, and you believe you have the rigth to force your sex ed on every child, us christians support the choice.
How about you post a debate on those bloody liberals and their brainwashing?
and stay on topic and debate a very bad side of a certain sect of Christianity?
No but I'm not liberal either
At what extent does spreading an idea become brainwashing or propaganda?
when you tell everyone they must agree with you, and call you names like racist, homophobe, transphobe bigot etc etc if you disagree, if they force schools to teach it to kids, and threatened to remove the child from the parents if the parents don't bow to their wishes.
This question extends to politics for sure but thats not all the question is about. It pertains to all information not just controversial topics but mundane as well.
Surely propaganda isn't just name calling. It seems more complex than that to me atleast.
It'd be best to eliminate the person, or people, who'd be setting this up for their benefit. I can't think of a scenario when brainwashing would be freely acceptable to both sides of the issue.
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This was tiffanee's post. She left.
it's Voxlug's post
Oh. Alright. I knew it wasnt originally an anon post....:]
You mean little things like "Columbus Discovered America"? Like the idiotic common core math curriculum? Like the "Safe" curriculums at multiple Colleges? The millions of indoctrinated children into opposing religions daily? This world is so screwed up it is amazing! Nobody should teach anybody anything anymore. Start over.
Religion is a cancer on society, the end.
especially the liberals religion of climate change, homosexuality, trans, and such that is the real cancer on society
That video is just a little bit creepy, but it reminded me of a summer camp I went to that was sponsored by my parents' church. My camp experience was actually nice. We lived in bunks in cabins next to a beautiful lake. We didn't have to listen to any religious preaching lectures. We had fun all day making various crafts (although they had religious themes), swimming in the lake in the afternoon and hiking around the fields on the campgrounds and sitting around a campfire after dark, laughing and roasting marshmallows. Yeah, we sang some religious kinds of songs around the campfire, but it was done in a fun way and everybody seemed to be happy.