Which is the real chair and why?

This was the most heated debate of my college experience so far. Your thoughts?

In case you can't read the third, it's the definition of a chair: A seat with a back, and often arms, usually for one person; a seat of office or authority, or the office itself; the person occupying the seat or office, esp. the chairman of a meeting; a sedan-chair; a chaiset; a metal block or clutch to support and secure a rail in a railroad.

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@2630205

If those examples speak on behalf of all chairs by being representations, then there has to exist in them the qualities of a chair.

BlindMists avatar BlindMist All of them +1Reply
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@2630562

And what does a chair do?

If I started to sit on the same table everyday instead of sitting on a chair, would that table then be a chair if it's serving the function of a chair?

At what point is something doing what a chair does and at what point is it not?

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@2630672

True, you gotta understand the counterarguments.

Yes, to create new life. It wouldn't be the same life, but God has the ability to make all things new.

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@2630684

But according to you, the definition of a chair is not a chair so how can we trust it?

Here's what shut down the debate in class:

The teacher was an art professor, and so we were in an art room. The room didn't have tables or desks, but we were using some type of artsy wooden boards as tables.

They weren't tables by definition and couldn't even be held up on their own, but someone asked

"What are these?"

And everyone said "Tables"

And there was just this moment of awe-inspiring silence

Just thought I would share that

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@2630698

If everyone said grass was red, would that make it true?

What if everyone was just living a lie they wish were true?

BlindMists avatar BlindMist All of them +1Reply

Nothing is real.

All of these item have ample chairness for my personal taste.

VicZincs avatar VicZinc None of them +3Reply
@VicZinc Nothing is real. All of these item have ample chairness for my personal taste.

If nothing is real

Then everything is nothingness

But nothingness does not exist either

Because it's not real...

So now we're just stuck in a paradox

BlindMists avatar BlindMist All of them +2Reply
@BlindMist If nothing is real Then everything is nothingness But nothingness does not exist either Because it's not...

That is where I am most comfortable.

And why do you say 'nothing does not exist'? That is as meaningless as saying 'bald is a hairstyle' or 'empty is a measurement of volume'

VicZincs avatar VicZinc None of them 0Reply
@VicZinc That is where I am most comfortable. And why do you say 'nothing does not exist'? That is as meaningless as...

Nothing is real. If nothing is real, then the whole concept of nothingness is not real, which means the concept of nothingness has to be real which means something is real.

And I'm confused by my own comment.

BlindMists avatar BlindMist All of them 0Reply
@BlindMist Nothing is real. If nothing is real, then the whole concept of nothingness is not real, which means the concept of...

Reminds me of the time a guy proved a poorly cooked meal is better than god...

A poorly cooked meal is better than nothing
and
nothing is better than god

Therefor a poorly cooked meal is better than god.

If we accept that nothing is real than surely it is real. That implies nothing exists - which is our point to begin with.

wink smilie

VicZincs avatar VicZinc None of them +1Reply
@VicZinc Reminds me of the time a guy proved a poorly cooked meal is better than god... A poorly cooked meal is better than...

Ugh, you're so frustrating

But at least I'm not whirling around in the paradox anymore

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@2630415

So a chair is something you can sit on?

Someone in my class gave this example:

If I were to sit on someone's head, then would that person's head then be a chair since it is satisfying the purpose of a chair?

BlindMists avatar BlindMist All of them 0Reply

I see a photo. In it a chair, a photo of a chair and a description of a chair. I can not use this photo as a chair. But...i can sit on it:]

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@2630230

Furniture heaven:).

My brain says....as long as you can touch the pieces, and you can reconstruct it, it is a chair.
Add as many pieces as you can, it remains a chair until you can no longer sit on it.

Your brain might tell you something different.

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@2630245

Ahhh.
A seat, not always a chair. A stool, or a bench.
Four legs, back to the lumbar area of the spine.(my thoughts)
Tiny...a child or doll chair.
A giant....get a very tall ladder, have a seat:)

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@2630254

In the words of someone in my class

A chair is a chair if it has chairiness

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@2630254

Plato said the one perfect chair is in furniture heaven. So..there may be no more:).

With all the words in our language we could ask these questions all night each night till we are no more:]

When is a beautiful flower, just a weed?

One is a picture the second is a chair and three is words on a paper

Willcoopers avatar Willcooper The second one +1Reply

The obvious answer is rarely right but what the hell

@Sunny_the_skeptic The obvious answer is rarely right but what the hell

Who knows what the right answer is. Maybe it's just one of those questions without a definitive answer.

BlindMists avatar BlindMist All of them +2Reply

I only see 2

The first one is a picture.

hootowls avatar hootowl The second one 0Reply

The structuralist critic in me is tingling

sign systems and chains of signifiers just goo smilie

Wunderscores avatar Wunderscore None of them 0Reply
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