Hey folks, have everyone forgotten that THREE PEOPLE died last Saturday?

Is your partisan so strong, that a 'win', at any cost, is acceptable? A young woman, with so much potential, was run over on Saturday, by a hate filled maniac. Two fine state troopers were also killed as a result. What the hell is it going to take, for you to recognize Trump, for what he is? My grandfather fought back those assholes in the second world war, and every president, EXCEPT TRUMP, has beaten those thugs back, with a stick. Trump just wants support, and he doesn't care who gives it to him. It's all about him.

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@2631658

And then he recanted on Tuesday. That is what got me, why not have let Monday's statement alone? He always has to one up himself, regarding stupidity.

@2631658

Gotta go against you on this one Thibault. [It hurts too, you know I'm a fan.]

Denunciation not good enough for you? What, you were looking for 9 at least and only got a 7?

Remember when Obama stepped on his dick all those times when he would pronounce judgement before the dead bodies got to room temperature? Remember too, Trump has a target on his back 24/7. He could say that baby deer are cute, and the media would cut him to shreds.

No, I think the media got you this time Thibault. They convinced you that his denunciation was not denunciation enough.

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@2631676

He blundered in a big way! My grandfather's generation was devoted in keeping those murderers from taking over, and that was all lost when Trump opened his big fat mouth.

He would have been far better off, (we all would have) if he had just shut up.

Equating White Supremacist groups with people fighting back? Do you know those same people, from the "violent left" saved the clergy who were trapped in churches?

Not cool.

@Budwick Gotta go against you on this one Thibault. [It hurts too, you know I'm a fan.] Denunciation not good enough for...

Let's try to not make this about Trump, shall we? The man didn't even go to the memorial service yesterday. He didn't even bother to call the families.

Why? Because, then it wouldn't have been about him.

@dru18 Let's try to not make this about Trump, shall we? The man didn't even go to the memorial service yesterday. He...

You made it about Trump. You're more worried about bashing him that you are about the incident itself.

@dru18 Trust me, I wasn't alone in bashing Trump. Everybody, and their dog, bashed him.

That's not my point. You told Budwick: "Let's try to not make this about Trump, shall we?" when you made it about Trump yourself in the description of your post.

@dru18 Let's try to not make this about Trump, shall we? The man didn't even go to the memorial service yesterday. He...

Which violent hate group was the woman part of anyway? Was she one of the Nazi's? Or Antifa” the self-described anarchists — radical left-wing thugs who employ violence and intimidation to advance their beliefs.

@dru18 Let's try to not make this about Trump, shall we? The man didn't even go to the memorial service yesterday. He...

Major General Greene, The highest ranking officer killed in combat since the Vietnam War. Obama didn’t go to his funeral.
President Obama was a no-show at Margaret Thatcher’s funeral despite being invited to attend and thus snubbing England’s invitation as a representative of the American people. Joe Biden also refused, as did Hillary Clinton.
In an amazing snub, Barack Obama, who sent an official delegation to Venezuela for tyrannical socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez’s funeral, won’t send one to Great Britain’s Margaret Thatcher’s.
President Obama did not attend Justice Antonin Scalia’s funeral.

To Obama, a funeral is about an opportunity to give a speech. These are the ones he attended.
• Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI)
Less than two months before the 2012 election, both Obamas took time out of their schedule to attend the funeral of Senator Inouye. President Obama openly wept over the liberal senator.
• Hadiya Pendleton
Three days before his 2013 State of the Union address, President Obama sent Michelle on his behalf to the funeral of 15 year-old shooting victim Hadiya Pendleton. Obama’s decision to send Michelle to the Chicago teen’s funeral set the stage for his SOTU address, in which he called for further gun control restrictions.
• Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV)
Despite Robert Byrd’s well-known ties to the Ku Klux Klan, President Obama attended the Democratic senator’s funeral. Obama gave a speech at the ceremony and called the late senator his friend.
• Reverend Clementa Pinckney
Reverend Pinckney, who also served as a South Carolina state senator, was one of the nine people killed in the Charleston shooting last summer. Despite never having met Pinckney, President Obama delivered his eulogy.

@2631658

I keep hearing about people not taking a hard enough stance against white supremacy and violence. I'm still waiting to hear ANY real condemnation of all the black led violence by multiple black organizations against whites.

It fills me with wonder how so many can be so wrong and still say they are fighting the good fight. look I think that the kkk (lower case with as much disrespect as I can) and the other groups like them should be treated like they don't even exist. but please look back in history. the very first thing that the fascists did was remove the statues and the books that they did not like then they rewrote the history books. the didn't allow people with ideals that they did not agree with to speak they shut them up with force if necessary and said they were the bad people. and we all know what happened next. please stop and take a breath President Trump is not the one who is acting like a fascist here we the people are.

@altonschwab It fills me with wonder how so many can be so wrong and still say they are fighting the good fight. look I think...

Where's your proof, that they rewrote history?

Those statues are not being destroyed, but moved to museums.

@JustJimColo http://da...

How are you even being able to equate the two?

In every historian's opinion, those statues should have been taken down a long time ago. They weren't even about honoring confederate soldiers, but more about keeping black people in their place.

@dru18 How are you even being able to equate the two? In every historian's opinion, those statues should have been taken...

The statues have nothing whatsoever to do with blacks, and never have. How long have those statues been there Dru? 100+ years? When did the outrage abut those statues come out? 50, 40, 30, 20, 10 years ago? Nope. This year. Did Obama or any other liberals try to have them removed for the past century? Nope. That should make you wonder.

@JustJimColo The statues have nothing whatsoever to do with blacks, and never have. How long have those statues been there Dru?...

Yes, it has everything to do with blacks and whites. Most of those statutes were erected during the Jim Crow period, and some, during the Civil Right's era.

@dru18 Where's your proof, that they rewrote history? Those statues are not being destroyed, but moved to museums.

The Nazi's burned books in the street they removed all traces of any former regimes and then told the people that if they didn't agree that they would be incarcerated or killed them of course the latter was in the end. the fascist told them that if you spoke out against the doctrine that made you the enemy. have you been to a collage campus in the US lately safe spaces violence against anybody who wants to speak with a conservative view. what I am trying to say is that if you are going to call out people as fascists then maybe you should look at both sides just like President Trump said. There are bad on both sides

@altonschwab The Nazi's burned books in the street they removed all traces of any former regimes and then told the people that...

I don't agree with what Berkley did, but it is nothing on the scale of what happened in Charolettesville.

Where were you people when Obama wouldn't call radical Islamic terrorist, "radical Islamic terrorists." By your logic, Obama emboldened the terrorists. You hypocrites are just fine when the victims are white conservative males. When black lives matter extremists were beating people, smashing windows,killing cops, and burning cars...where were you then? You were sitting back smiling. Nazis and the KKK are scum but you only stand against your scum of choice.

@JerryHendrickson Where were you people when Obama wouldn't call radical Islamic terrorist, "radical Islamic terrorists." By your...

Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. It was Trump who used that all during his campaign. And what does he do? TAKES TWO FREAKING DAYS TO CALL OUT THE HOME GROWN TERRORISTS, AND THEN TAKES IT BACK, ON TUESDAY!!

How many people were sent to the ovens, during WWII, and this asshole tries to equate both sides?!!

@dru18 Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. It was Trump who used that all during his campaign. And what does he do? TAKES...

So it's okay when Obama doesn't call out the terrorists for what they are but not okay for Trump because he's Trump?

@dru18 Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. It was Trump who used that all during his campaign. And what does he do? TAKES...

The protesters on the left have caused more trouble than even the scum Nazis, so perhaps they are equatable.

You realize that Trump had nothing to do with the protest or the counter protest, right?
You know that picture you posted is Photo-shopped - not real - fake, right?
CNN may not have reported it DD - but Trump denounced the hate and violence - you heard that, right?

So, what's your deal? Just white hot hatred that you need to make up stuff for?

@Budwick You realize that Trump had nothing to do with the protest or the counter protest, right? You know that picture...

Was it photo shopped? Yeah, no shit, Budwick. I was trying to make a point. You know the one, that went sadly over you head.

And with what he said Tuesday, he might as well have been leading the charge.

@dru18 Was it photo shopped? Yeah, no shit, Budwick. I was trying to make a point. You know the one, that went sadly over...

Well, I just don't know how far from reality you've slipped.

What he said Tuesday? What, that both sides share in guilt? He's absolutely correct!

"We must be clear. White supremacy is repulsive. This bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. There can be no moral ambiguity.

And the alt-left, anti-fa that attacked them with clubs are just as bad.

Don't be sold a another load of crap DD - Trump said nothing inappropriate.

@Budwick Well, I just don't know how far from reality you've slipped. What he said Tuesday? What, that both sides share in...

Both sides?! No, he, was, not, correct. But what else is new.

There is only ONE side who showed up, carrying torches, chanting hateful rhetoric, throwing out slurs, while scaring the hell out of people.

And he kept saying; "At least they had a permit." Which was a lie.

And those groups were of the alt right.

@dru18 Both sides?! No, he, was, not, correct. But what else is new. There is only ONE side who showed up, carrying...

The ones with the permit were there on Friday. They were just protesting removal of a statue.

The alt-right, Nazis, skin heads were there on Saturday, allegedly for the same reason.

Your team, the alt-left anti-fa showed up later looking for a fight and got it.

They were both at fault.

@Budwick The ones with the permit were there on Friday. They were just protesting removal of a statue. The alt-right...

Some protest. Chanting, under torch light, "jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil". After that, why were those people even aloud there?
The fault of these three deaths lie squarely in the hands of the white supremacists. And, with their precieved blessing from the white house, this is only the beginning.

@Carla Some protest. Chanting, under torch light, "jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil". After that, why were...

Like I said, there were two hate filled groups there. You have bothered to find a quote from one of them.

The city apparently tried to get the protest moved. The ACLU (another left wing dream team) fought for these Nazis and won their right to protest.

The only ones theat percieve blessings is the left.

@Budwick Like I said, there were two hate filled groups there. You have bothered to find a quote from one of them. The...

I think you enjoy this.
The us vs them mentality.

People died. An alt right, indoctrinated domestic terrorist murdered a woman, injured more. And you cant pull yourself out of your own shit to say that.

All you can do is say bigotry and racism is bad, but........

@Carla I think you enjoy this. The us vs them mentality. People died. An alt right, indoctrinated domestic terrorist...

There is no us - I'm not sympathetic tho either group.

Enjoy repeatedly explaining the obvious to the intentionally ignorant? I don't think so.

How can you take issue with the condemnation of bigotry and racism?

No one is defendiing either side - well, wait a minute - you are actually defending antifa. The second hate filled group. Why is that Carla? Is that who you are? A far-left militant political whacko that dislikes racism when its carried out by whites.

@Budwick The ones with the permit were there on Friday. They were just protesting removal of a statue. The alt-right...

Bullshit! They had a permit to be in a certain part of the city, and no where else. That permit did not include, guns, knives, chanting out hate, scaring the hell out of people, and then murder.

Oh, and by the way, the other side had a permit too. Ooops....

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@Budwick There was a permit to rally in Emancipation Park. That's where it all went down.

Give a complete reply, Budwick, even though you don't have a leg to stand on.

@dru18 Give a complete reply, Budwick, even though you don't have a leg to stand on.

That's all I got. One permit, Emancipation park.
Two out of control groups fighting - both with blood on their hands - literally.

How can you even think to deny that?

@dru18 Both sides?! No, he, was, not, correct. But what else is new. There is only ONE side who showed up, carrying...

"Antifa” is made up of self-described anarchists — radical left-wing thugs who employ violence and intimidation to advance their beliefs.

@Budwick "Antifa” is made up of self-described anarchists — radical left-wing thugs who employ violence and intimidation...

Even if there was violence on both sides, (which there wasn't) so what?

As I told you over on another post, there was violence on both sides during WWII, but we were STILL the good guys, and the Nazis were STILL the bad ones.

Shall we count all the dead victims as a result of white hatred, and then count all the dead victims as a result of black hatred and compare the numbers?

Why is it the media only reports on, and condemns one, and not the other?

@JustJimColo Shall we count all the dead victims as a result of white hatred, and then count all the dead victims as a result of...

Who said they did? When those four black teenagers in Chicago, kidnapped and tortured that mentally impaired white teenager, they all were reporting, and condemning.

@dru18 Who said they did? When those four black teenagers in Chicago, kidnapped and tortured that mentally impaired white...

Dru, you know very well that the media does not cover black on white violence the same as white on black.
The only reason that the mentally impaired victim was reported was that it was just a new low that even the media couldn't ignore.

@dru18 Black on white crime?? I would say there is far more black on black crime.

We are not talking about the black on black crime (which we all know happens in large numbers, even though the media doesn't cover it.) Since this is supposedly all about racism, we are talking about white on black crime vs black on white.
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@JustJimColo We are not talking about the black on black crime (which we all know happens in large numbers, even though the...

Jim, many white people were beaten or killed by the kkk, for standing up for the rights of others, in the last century.

Is there black on white crime? Of course, but not in large numbers.

And this isn't even about statistics, but rather how this president handled the tragedy.

@dru18 Jim, many white people were beaten or killed by the kkk, for standing up for the rights of others, in the last...

Dru. How many people... of ANY color, has the KKK killed in your lifetime? Good luck finding a number you can't count on your fingers. How many people are dead as a result of black organizations. i.e. Black Panthers, BLM etc.?

Black on white crime not in large numbers??
FACT: Despite being outnumbered by whites five to one, blacks commit eight times more crimes against whites than vice-versa, according to FBI statistics from 2007. A black male is 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse. These figures also show that interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white.

– FACT: Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks commit around half of homicides in the United States. DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.

More up to date FBI statistics tell a similar story. In 2013, black criminals carried out 38% of murders, compared to 31.1% for whites, again despite the fact that there are five times more white people in the U.S.

– FACT: From 2011 to 2013, 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13% black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15-34, who account for around 3% of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering.

– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011, 2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.

Of course this is about statistics.

What would you have liked the President to do or say? Condemn whites, as a race?

I'm sure most to many people have not forgotten it. I do not hold Trump responsible for those tragic events. The young man who chose to plow a car into the group of people, killing one and injuring many others is responsible. The tragic helicopter crash that resulted in the death of two police officers could have happened at any kind of protest or gathering where violence was a concern.

I've noticed something again on this very post, though. When that shooting happened in Alexandria back in June, many Trump 'supporters' blamed the "hateful" rhetoric from the left for the perpetrator's action. Some of those very same people seem either blind to, or unwilling to acknowledge the words of this current president blatantly promoting violence...

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@2631791

To be fair, some left-leaning people do that as well. What I mean by "that", is excusing violence somehow because of WHO or what it was directed against.
I've also seen many Trump supporters express views that definitely seem to be promoting and encouraging violence. I can't agree that nobody wants violence, because some people seem to seek it, and have excuses for it.

It does seem clear to me, that the white 'nationalist' and Hitler admiring groups who traveled to Charlottesville were intent on and hoping for violence. Although I completely understand people wanting to stand up against their repugnant views, I do not think any of those people can be excused for reacting with violence simply because of those views.

@Piper2 To be fair, some left-leaning people do that as well. What I mean by "that", is excusing violence somehow...

Piper, many of those protesters who resorted to violence, were protecting the clergy who had been trapped inside a church because of the white supremacists groups.

As I told Budwick, during WWII, there was violence on both sides. We were still the good guys, and the Nazis were still the bad guys.

@dru18 Piper, many of those protesters who resorted to violence, were protecting the clergy who had been trapped inside a...

I don't doubt that. Neither were ALL the counter-protesters at all violent or provocative.

@Piper2 I'm sure most to many people have not forgotten it. I do not hold Trump responsible for those tragic...

Of course he is not directly too blame, but words matter, and this president has used some of the worst ones.

This country needed guidance, reassurance, and healing, after the riot. It got none of those.

@dru18 Of course he is not directly too blame, but words matter, and this president has used some of the worst ones...

so i guess hateful rhetoric is only wrong when extreme right does it, but ok when the left do it? and trust me that is all the left have been doing for the past 2 years

@dru18 When I find left leaning people joining White Supremacists groups, then I will worry.

lol you forget who started the KKK, and why do you tolerate left wing violence but denounce right wing violence?, that makes you a HYPOCRITE.

@Piper2 I'm sure most to many people have not forgotten it. I do not hold Trump responsible for those tragic...

I recal liberals physically assaulting anyone who voted trump or differently then them, i recall them burning buildings, and vehicles, trump is NOT to blame.

@Anonymousmouse I recal liberals physically assaulting anyone who voted trump or differently then them, i recall them burning...

I recall a few incidences of that happening, too. I also recall some incidences of protests turning into a riot of property destruction and people assaulting each other.

I do not condone that in any way, myself, unless someone is acting in self-defense. Doesn't matter what label they are given or embrace. Also, I did not say that Trump is to blame....

Trump has nothing to do with it.

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@2631637

All he had to do, was denounce the hate filled alt right, and he couldn't even do that right.

@JerryHendrickson Trump has nothing to do with it.

He is the reason this human waste comes out from the sewer.
His rhetoric gives them the feeling of safety in the delusions of righteousness.

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@2631634

They want a win so badly, they don't care of the everlasting consequences.

They have indeed, sold their souls to the devil.

And it is fat, orange, hateful, and disgusting.

@dru18 They want a win so badly, they don't care of the everlasting consequences. They have indeed, sold their souls to...

If people can't see Trump for what he is, a disgusting piece of trash, a bigot, racist, a Nazi lover, a lover and champion of the KKK, then they shouldn't be living in the United States of America.

@Budwick We won already DD.

No, actually, you have lost. And unfortunately, you took the whole country down with you.

@dru18 No, actually, you have lost. And unfortunately, you took the whole country down with you.

Hillary is nothing but a bad dream anymore DD. You lost, the left lost, the media loses more for you every day. The left is being exposed for the hateful bigots they are.

@Budwick Hillary is nothing but a bad dream anymore DD. You lost, the left lost, the media loses more for you every day...

Wow, you think this is about Hillary, or the 2016 election?

No, it is about this country, and the white supremacists groups that will eventually tear it down.

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@dru18 Wow, you think this is about Hillary, or the 2016 election? No, it is about this country, and the white...

What is it that we've allegedly lost then DD? You brought it up - what did you win? What did the right lose?

@Budwick What is it that we've allegedly lost then DD? You brought it up - what did you win? What did the right lose?

Well, for starters, Budwick, three lives were lost on Saturday. And for another, everything that my grandfather's generation fought for, was lost when Trump opened his fat, stupid, mouth.

When David Duke is giddy with what you have said, then you know, you are going down the wrong path.

@dru18 Well, for starters, Budwick, three lives were lost on Saturday. And for another, everything that my grandfather's...

You're being an obtuse drama queen DD.
Everything your grandfathers generation fought for - WTF does that mean? He fought in war? Which one? What was lost, and how the hell do you connect those dots to Trump? You're being foolish.

@dru18 WWII. DUH!!!! You know, the one in which we fought Hitler.

And how was I to know that DD? How would I know which war your grandfather fought in?

I assume he fought on our side - against Hitler, right?

And, what is it that was won in WWII that is now lost because Trump said that both sides in Charlottesville are to blame?

@Budwick And how was I to know that DD? How would I know which war your grandfather fought in? I assume he fought on our...

" assume he fought on our side - against Hitler, right?"

Oh wow, what a cretin remark to make.

Since I have been talking about Nazis' lately, Budwick, I would assume you would have known the war.

He gave the alt right power, when he didn't fully just condemn them. He gave them power, when he took too long to issue a decent statement. He gave them power, when he took Miller, Bannon, and that other ick into the White House.

@dru18 " assume he fought on our side - against Hitler, right?" Oh wow, what a cretin remark to make. Since I have been...

He gave them power? By saying they were hatefilled Nazis? And, that was after the conflict. How does that give them power?

Quite listening to CNN. They haven't got their facts right in years.

And the cabinet now? STFU DD - you guys couldn't get the Russia thing to stick and now you're flailing looking for something, anything to pin on Trump.

You're losers DD.. Sore losers at that!

@Budwick He gave them power? By saying they were hatefilled Nazis? And, that was after the conflict. How does that give...

BS!! He took two days (two days, TOO LONG!) to denounce these idiots, and then he took that back again, on Tuesday.

Trump is always one uping himself when it comes to his own stupidity.

@2631634

Tiff I am neither a bigot, racist, nor do I hate anybody in particular and when you lump me into this anyone still supporting President Trump group is tainted. and I do still support President Trump. you like all others like you unwilling to have a conversation about values unwilling to do anything but spew hate for any ideal that does not align with yours I have listened to your point of view and on some thing I must admit that I agree with you but when you make statement like this you are no better then President Trump when blurts s*** out on twitter. I think it is time for us as a people to stand up and be counted. our politicians are a mess on both side and I think we should all admit it. I mean that is the whole reason President Trump is in the white house isn't it.

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@2631771

How can it be, when what happened in Charolettesville has not been properly addressed?

How can we even think about helping others, when our own country is burning down?

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@2633946

Hate crimes are up. How many presidents can say that they have gotten a slap on the back from David Duke?

Trump didn't say anything that a NORMAL person would say.

@dru18 Hate crimes are up. How many presidents can say that they have gotten a slap on the back from David Duke? Trump...

yeah, violence is higher lately, and if you paid a lick of attention you would soon see that 99% of it is caused by sore loser liberals, antifa, and BLM, not trump or supporters. yes, there are violent extreme right, but not near as many as left.

so normal people would condone the violence? i thought trump spoke out against it.

oh right i forgot you are the alt left, you are ok when left cause violence but not when extremist white supremacists do it. any NORMAL person would like trump denounce the violence regardless of which side does it. stupid insane people justify or ignore their side doing it while hypocritically getting mad at anyone else for it

@Anonymousmouse yeah, violence is higher lately, and if you paid a lick of attention you would soon see that 99% of it is caused by...

Trump took TWO days to even utter the names, and he looked like a hostage when he has to. Then, the next day, (Tuesday) we got the real Trump.

No, Skippy, the right wing nut jobs are who responsible for the death of three people that Saturday.

DD, Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. There is so much hate for him that there is no clarity of thought over anything he does.
The left is having the mindset of "you are either with us or against us." That lumps anyone who doesn't agree with them as the enemy. That is more disturbing than anything else that is going on in this world.

@dru18 So much hate for him? Then maybe he should stop being so hateful.

I guess those who put him in office are also hateful in your book. Americans were tired of being an ATM for the world and the new people brought over here, while not being allowed to have a voice in anything.

@ozzyboy I guess those who put him in office are also hateful in your book. Americans were tired of being an ATM for the...

I wouldn't say all that put him in office are hateful, but an alarming amount, are.

And what gets me, is that he doesn't condemn it. I guess any support will do, whether it is from White Supremacists, or Russia.

@dru18 I wouldn't say all that put him in office are hateful, but an alarming amount, are. And what gets me, is that he...

You do know there is more connections with Russia from the past administration than Trump.
If you think there is no hateful behavior on the life, you aren't paying attention. Just because the media doesn't tell you about it, don't believe it isn't happening.

@dru18 Not Russia trying to influence the election in Obama's favor.

Correction "If you think there is no hateful behavior on the left, you aren't paying attention."
Russia monitored the election, just like they always have, but did not work to get him elected. Did they control all those illegals and dead people that voted for Clinton?

@ozzyboy Correction "If you think there is no hateful behavior on the left, you aren't paying attention." Russia monitored...

Nice try, but once again, there is no proof of rampant voter fraud.

And your okay with the monitoring the election, just as long as it goes in your direction.

Okaaay.........

@dru18 Nice try, but once again, there is no proof of rampant voter fraud. And your okay with the monitoring the...

Tire's already plenty of proof for the dead, illegal voters, not to mention the multiple times some voted.
Mostly for the candidates of the left. They refuse to release the information on this fraud but it is coming out, slowly, but it's coming.
Not much I can do about countries monitoring other countries elections.
You do know that the previous administration tried to throw Netanyahu's election, don't you?

@ozzyboy Tire's already plenty of proof for the dead, illegal voters, not to mention the multiple times some voted. Mostly...

LOL!!! There is no proof, no matter how much Trump lies. And EVERY state has been scoffing at that for years.

Prove it!

@ozzyboy DD, Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. There is so much hate for him that there is no clarity of...

I agree with you that the "with us or against us" attitude is troubling. My only clarification is that the left do not have a monopoly on this mindset.

There are a couple issues here. One was that there was a rally to protest the taking down of statues. Whenever white supremacists show up to a rally something bad is likely to happen.. That's because they believe in hate and the subjugation of other humans (which would be bad enough) by skin color, religion, sexual orientation, etc.. I'd be ashamed if no counter-protestors had responded.

Obviously one bullet-headed idiot behind the wheel of a car is responsible for the violence and murder that we saw on film. However, if there were other violent clashes between the protesters and counter-protesters, I haven't heard or seen anything other than multiple mobs of people acting like frightened animals. So who is to say who "started it"?

But yes, I think the POTUS should reject Neo-Nazis and white supremacists categorically. Their beliefs are un-american. Period.

I'm reminded of something that happened recently that really made my blood boil. In the immediate aftermath of the Benghazi attack, our embassy in Cairo released the following statement. If you can please forget all the other bullshit about Benghazi for a moment and read this.

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of other.

So now our free speech must take others' feelings into account?!?! Bullshit!!! I don't remember our President every clarifying the statement out of Cairo.

@PhilboydStudge There are a couple issues here. One was that there was a rally to protest the taking down of statues. Whenever...

Trump is sure quick to call out everybody else, by name. And it took him TWO days, to call out these assholes?! And then he changed it back again, on Tuesday.

And talk about fragile feelings. This president keeps charging at windmills.

I haven't forgotten, and neither has true Americans. We saw Trump, the so-called president, side with the KKK, the neo-Nazis, and the white supremacists.... over the truth. He evidently has forgotten we went to war against the brutul Nazis, many people were killed because of Hitler, and Trump is OK with that. Many Jews were killed and the marchers were shouting demeaning chants against the Jews....and still Trump is OK with that.

Any true American can see this president for what he is....a disgusting piece of garbage that is incompetent and unfit to be a president of anything.

And today, another lie about General Pershing, no where in history is there anything about Pershing doing any of that, which Trump spewed. The man doesn't know the truth if it bit him on the butt.

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Dru, I'm thoroughly disgusted by some of the comments on this post. It's sad and disgusting to know that we have racists on this site who are actually defending Trump. If Trump remains in office, there won't be an America to bless.

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@StarzAbove Dru, I'm thoroughly disgusted by some of the comments on this post. It's sad and disgusting to know that we have...

It blows me away.

As I said above, how many people were sent to the ovens, buried alive, experimented on, tortured, starved to death, because of the hate filled Nazis?

And these people want to equate the two sides?!!

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Once again, you missed the point.

The Nazis were responsible for some of the worst atrocities inflicted on their fellow man, in the history of homo sapiens.

And you, and your bud, Trump, have no problem in defending them.

No- but in Europe events in Spain have knocked Trump off the front page.

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WTF?!! I don't give a shit what color her skin was, but obliviously you do, since you keep bringing it up.

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Lets not forget your last parrot comments on the other post.

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You delusionally think it is not about race?

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And what were they chanting on Friday night?

“Blood and soil!” “You will not replace us!” “Jews will not replace us!”

Targeted? Do you know how many white people, the kkk murdered in the sixties, because they stood up for the rights of black people?

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I was on topic. You seem to forget history, or perhaps were too slow to actually grasps it, but it doesn't matter in the eyes of the white supremacists groups, if someone is white, if they are supportive of minorities.

@JustJimColo How many blacks were killed by the KKK in the 60's Dru? Give me a number.

Too many too count. The point is, that Johnson, along with the FBI, weakened those bastards, and now, under Trump, they are embolden.

@dru18 Too many too count. The point is, that Johnson, along with the FBI, weakened those bastards, and now, under Trump...

"Too many to count:, isn't a number Dru. What happened is, you couldn't find any because there weren't the big numbers some people like to pretend there was. If there were, they would be giving those numbers and the names to go along with them. It's just a lie Dru, and people are buying it without demanding proof. People believe what they want to believe.

@dru18 How many do you want?

I'll make it easy. Give me 20 names of people killed by the KKK since 1970. That's almost 50 years. It should be easy to come up with if what you have been told is true.

@dru18 SINCE, 1970! I would say you are making it easier on yourself.

I used 1970 as a time since probably 95% of those who are using the KKK as an example weren't even born before that.

@JustJimColo I used 1970 as a time since probably 95% of those who are using the KKK as an example weren't even born before that.

It doesn't matter when any of us were born! LMAO!! Do you think that erases the past of the KKK, just because people were born after 1970?

@dru18 It doesn't matter when any of us were born! LMAO!! Do you think that erases the past of the KKK, just because...

It doesn't erase the past, but pretending the KKK still exists as a threat it once was is ludicrous. If the left has to use the KKK as an example of violence against blacks, it's only proof that there are no violent groups targeting blacks.
Which takes us back to my question of how many blacks have the KKK killed since 1970.. which you won't/can't answer, yet you claim to be "too many to count". (I know you can count to at least 10 Dru.) LOL
If you don't like the date of 1970, go back another 10 years when civil/racist unrest was at it's height. (Until the Obama years that is)

You have to admit that the KKK arm of the Democratic party just isn't what it once was. Nor are the Jim Crow laws created by the Democrat party. (I've always found it ironic that the Democrats are the first to attribute the Jim Crow laws to conservatives, when they were actually all created by Democrats.)

@JustJimColo It doesn't erase the past, but pretending the KKK still exists as a threat it once was is ludicrous. If the left...

So now Obama caused civil unrest? How, Jim? What did Obama say or do, (other, than just being black) that caused civil unrest between blacks and whites?

https://www.splcenter.org/what-...rights-martyrs

@dru18 So now Obama caused civil unrest? How, Jim? What did Obama say or do, (other, than just being black) that caused...

Racial tensions during the Obama years was higher than I have ever seen it in my lifetime. What wasn't a racial issue, he made one, where racial violence was almost unheard of, he expanded it. If there was a hint of racial tension, he promoted it.

@dru18 And once again, what did he say or do, that promoted it?

As far as overall race relations, only 20% of likely voters believe President Obama has succeeded in bringing the races closer together, according to the Rasmussen Reports survey. Forty-seven percent (47%) say they believe President Obama — who is mixed-race caused greater division between different races.

I will give you specifics (which I have, and hyperlinks to the sites) when you can give me numbers of people killed by the KKK in the past 50 - 60 years, or in your lifetime.

@JustJimColo As far as overall race relations, only 20% of likely voters believe President Obama has succeeded in bringing the...

"Bringing the races closer together"? Gee, I didn't know that was his job.

And once again, what did he say or do, that supports your view?

I just sent you a link. Did you click on that link?

@dru18 "Bringing the races closer together"? Gee, I didn't know that was his job. And once again, what did he say or do...

You didn't know that was his job Dru? Really???? You don't think it's a Presidents job to bring ALL Americans together????

@dru18 "Bringing the races closer together"? Gee, I didn't know that was his job. And once again, what did he say or do...

Dru, if you had sent me to a credible link, I would have looked at it. No sane person believes that the Southern Poverty Law Center is anything other than a front for black racists and their agendas.

Where are your numbers about the KKK murders that are "Too many to count"?

@JustJimColo Dru, if you had sent me to a credible link, I would have looked at it. No sane person believes that the Southern...

Excuse Me!!

Now we are saying the Southern Poverty Law Center is behind all of this crap?!

I recognize quite a few of those faces that they show, Jim, so maybe it is time for you to brush up on your history.

And when are you going to answer my question about Obama?

@dru18 Excuse Me!! Now we are saying the Southern Poverty Law Center is behind all of this crap?! I recognize quite a...

Dru, The only person who mentioned the SPLC is behind all this crap is you. I simply stated the fact that is not a reputable source, and that it is a front for racist agendas. (That's just a fact)

I'll be happy to answer your question about obama as soon as you answer mine about the laughable statement you made about the KKK killing "too many to count". (I already have the facts on my desktop, waiting to post) You keep trying to deflect my question because I caught you in a position where you have no facts, numbers or names to back up your statement.

@JustJimColo Dru, The only person who mentioned the SPLC is behind all this crap is you. I simply stated the fact that is not a...

The "only person"?? Oh wow.

I sent you the link, which you automatically dismissed, without even opening it. I suspect you will do that, with every link I provide you.

Oh yes, the three civil rights workers, the four little girls, Emmet Till, etc.....there all on there, with many more.

@dru18 The "only person"?? Oh wow. I sent you the link, which you automatically dismissed, without even opening it. I...

Send me a credible link and I'll review it.
If I sent to a link like www.americannaziparty.com , to validate what I said, I'm sure you would go there expecting to be enlightened with truths.

@dru18 It is a creditable link. That organization tracks hate crimes.

So is americannaziparty.com . Just because you believe something is credible because it subscribes to your own personal ideology/agenda, doesn't make it so.

@JustJimColo So is americannaziparty.com . Just because you believe something is credible because it subscribes to your own...

After the decline of the national organization, small independent groups adopted the name "Ku Klux Klan," along with variations. They had no formal connection to the second KKK, except for the fact that they copied its terminology and costumes. Beginning in the 1950s, for instance, individual Klan groups in Birmingham, Alabama, began to resist social change and blacks' efforts to improve their lives by bombing houses in transitional neighborhoods. The white men worked in mining and steel industries, with access to these materials. There were so many bombings of blacks' homes in Birmingham by Klan groups in the 1950s that the city's nickname was "Bombingham".[37]

During the tenure of Bull Connor as police commissioner in Birmingham, Klan groups were closely allied with the police and operated with impunity. When the Freedom Riders arrived in Birmingham in 1961, Connor gave Klan members fifteen minutes to attack the riders before sending in the police to quell the attack.[37] When local and state authorities failed to protect the Freedom Riders and activists, the federal government began to establish intervention and protection.

In states such as Alabama and Mississippi, Klan members forged alliances with governors' administrations.[37] In Birmingham and elsewhere, the KKK groups bombed the houses of civil rights activists. In some cases they used physical violence, intimidation and assassination directly against individuals. Continuing disfranchisement of blacks across the South meant that most could not serve on juries, which were all-white and demonstrably biased verdicts and sentences.

Goodman, Chaney, and Schwerner were three civil rights workers abducted and murdered by members of the Ku Klux Klan.
According to a report from the Southern Regional Council in Atlanta, the homes of 40 black Southern families were bombed during 1951 and 1952. Some of the bombing victims were social activists whose work exposed them to danger, but most were either people who refused to bow to racist convention or were innocent bystanders, unsuspecting victims of random violence.[171]

Among the more notorious murders by Klan members in the 1950s and 1960s:
The 1951 Christmas Eve bombing of the home of National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) activists Harry and Harriette Moore in Mims, Florida, resulting in their deaths.[172]
The 1957 murder of Willie Edwards, Jr. Klansmen forced Edwards to jump to his death from a bridge into the Alabama River.[173]
The 1963 assassination of NAACP organizer Medgar Evers in Mississippi. In 1994, former Ku Klux Klansman Byron De La Beckwith was convicted.
The 16th Street Baptist Church bombing in September 1963 in Birmingham, Alabama, which killed four African-American girls and injured 22 people. The perpetrators were Klan members Robert Chambliss, convicted in 1977, Thomas Edwin Blanton, Jr. and Bobby Frank Cherry, convicted in 2001 and 2002. The fourth suspect, Herman Cash, died before he was indicted.
The 1964 murders of Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner, three civil rights workers, in Mississippi. In June 2005, Klan member Edgar Ray Killen was convicted of manslaughter.[174]
The 1964 murder of two black teenagers, Henry Hezekiah Dee and Charles Eddie Moore in Mississippi. In August 2007, based on the confession of Klansman Charles Marcus Edwards, James Ford Seale, a reputed Ku Klux Klansman, was convicted. Seale was sentenced to serve three life sentences. Seale was a former Mississippi policeman and sheriff's deputy.[175]
The 1965 Alabama murder of Viola Liuzzo. She was a Southern-raised Detroit mother of five who was visiting the state in order to attend a civil rights march. At the time of her murder, Liuzzo was transporting Civil Rights marchers related to the Selma to Montgomery March.
The 1966 firebombing death of NAACP leader Vernon Dahmer Sr., 58, in Mississippi. In 1998 former Ku Klux Klan wizard Sam Bowers was convicted of his murder and sentenced to life. Two other Klan members were indicted with Bowers, but one died before trial, and the other's indictment was dismissed.
On July 1966, in Bogalusa, Louisiana, a stronghold of Klan activity, Clarence Triggs was found murdered.[176]
The 1967 multiple bombings in Jackson, Mississippi of the residence of a Methodist activist, Robert Kochtitzky, the synagogue and the residence of Rabbi Perry Nussbaum. These were carried out by Klan member Thomas Albert Tarrants III, who was convicted in 1968. Another Klan bombing was averted in Meridian the same year.[177]

Resistance

There was considerable resistance among African Americans and white allies to the Klan. In 1953, newspaper publishers W. Horace Carter (Tabor City, NC), who had campaigned for three years, and Willard Cole (Whiteville, NC) shared the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service citing "their successful campaign against the Ku Klux Klan, waged on their own doorstep at the risk of economic loss and personal danger, culminating in the conviction of over one hundred Klansmen and an end to terrorism in their communities."[178] In a 1958 incident in North Carolina, the Klan burned crosses at the homes of two Lumbee Native Americans for associating with white people, and threatened more actions. When the KKK held a nighttime rally nearby, they were quickly surrounded by hundreds of armed Lumbee. Gunfire was exchanged, and the Klan was routed at what became known as the Battle of Hayes Pond.[179]

While the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had paid informants in the Klan, for instance in Birmingham in the early 1960s, its relations with local law enforcement agencies and the Klan were often ambiguous. The head of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, appeared more concerned about Communist links to civil rights activists than about controlling Klan excesses against citizens. In 1964, the FBI's COINTELPRO program began attempts to infiltrate and disrupt civil rights groups.[37]

As 20th-century Supreme Court rulings extended federal enforcement of citizens' civil rights, the government revived the Enforcement Acts and the Klan Act from Reconstruction days. Federal prosecutors used these laws as the basis for investigations and indictments in the 1964 murders of Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner;[180] and the 1965 murder of Viola Liuzzo. They were also the basis for prosecution in 1991 in Bray v. Alexandria Women's Health Clinic.

In 1965, the House Un-American Activities Committee started an investigation on the Klan, putting in the public spotlight its front organizations, finances, methods and divisions.[181]

1970s–present

Violence at a Klan march in Mobile, Alabama, 1977
After federal legislation was passed prohibiting legal segregation and authorizing enforcement of protection of voting rights, KKK groups began to oppose court-ordered busing to desegregate schools, affirmative action, and the more open immigration authorized in the 1960s. In 1971, KKK members used bombs to destroy 10 school buses in Pontiac, Michigan. By 1975, there were known KKK groups on most college campuses in Louisiana as well as at Vanderbilt University, the University of Georgia, the University of Mississippi, the University of Akron, and the University of Southern California.[182]

Massacre of Communist Workers Party protesters

Main article: Greensboro massacre

On November 3, 1979, five communist protesters were killed by KKK and American Nazi Party members in Greensboro, North Carolina in what is known as the Greensboro massacre.[183] The Communist Workers Party had sponsored a rally against the Klan in an effort to organize predominantly black industrial workers in the area.[147] Klan members drove up with arms in their car trunks, and attacked marchers.

Jerry Thompson infiltration

Jerry Thompson, a newspaper reporter who infiltrated the KKK in 1979, reported that the FBI's COINTELPRO efforts were highly successful. Rival KKK factions accused each other's leaders of being FBI informants. William Wilkinson of the Invisible Empire, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, was revealed to have been working for the FBI.[184]

Thompson also related that KKK leaders showed great concern about a series of civil lawsuits filed by the Southern Poverty Law Center, claiming damages amounting to millions of dollars. These were filed after KKK members shot into a group of African Americans. Klansmen curtailed their activities in order to conserve money for defense against the lawsuits. The KKK also used lawsuits as tools; they filed a libel suit in order to prevent the publication of a paperback edition of Thompson's book, but

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

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“Thank you, President Trump, for those words of comfort and for denouncing those who promote violence and hatred. My condolences also to the grieving families of the two state troopers and quick recovery for those injured.”

-Susan Bro, mother of Heather Heyer, woman killed in Charlotteville car attack.

I'm anti-Trump...but I don't understand the relationship between the 3 People dying (RIP) and Trump... Can you spell it out for me? TY.

@Sukiesnow I'm anti-Trump...but I don't understand the relationship between the 3 People dying (RIP) and Trump... Can you...

Actually, you are pro-having it both ways, Sukie, but since you asked, I will reply.

Trump didn't denounce the KKK, and the other white supremacists assholes, on Saturday. He didn't call out their names, condemning and embarrassing them. Instead, he equated the protesters with the white supremacists groups. And he has been doubling down on that bullshit theory, all week long.

@Sukiesnow Actually, you are pro-having it both ways... Query.

I rather think I have been on only one side of the fence, when it comes to Trump.

@dru18 I rather think I have been on only one side of the fence, when it comes to Trump.

I am on one side...but I have no problem acknowledging it if he's done something good.

@Sukiesnow I am on one side...but I have no problem acknowledging it if he's done something good.

LMAO! Which he DIDN'T, when it came to Charlottesville, and everybody knew it.

My, what a low bar we have set.

There are around 16,238 murders per year in the United States; this averages out to around 44 murders per day. These figures, which are based on the Centers for Disease Control. What is the significance of the three compared to the average of 44 a day? It has a "white supremist" connection...

did you forget the violence antifa commit? funny how you liberals are so narrow and one track minded

@Anonymousmouse did you forget the violence antifa commit? funny how you liberals are so narrow and one track minded

Funny, how their "violence" occurred while trying to defend others.

And please look up 'antifa'.

@dru18 Funny, how their "violence" occurred while trying to defend others. And please look up 'antifa'.

thats bull shite and you KNOW IT! just the other day an dantifa thug slashed a knife at a guys face simply because of a hair cut. antifa is violent and NOT for defending anyone, simply because they are sore loser fascists who attack anyone who disagrees with them, look it up on youtube, tons of videos proving my point.

so if hitler called his movement anti fascist would that of solved the issue? I know 100% what antifa means, but compare their actions to hitler its IDENTICAL

Where? People die every day

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