Does the realization of consequences help you move forward in life?

It seems that some people need to understand consequences before they do something....it seems to propel them forward. "If I don't pay my bills something bad will happen..." It's possible that this is from childhood...and you were subject to punishment...therefore you won't really do anything unless you understand the consequences...OR you prefer consequences and understand them...this motivates you...

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It can. Hopefully it at least makes you think before doing something really stupid. Some guys are still going to pee on the electric fence at least once though. Ha!

Yes, and usually in a positive way. It's called understanding accountabiity.

@JustJimColo Yes, and usually in a positive way. It's called understanding accountabiity.

Yes...but how much do you need consequences...and accountability? Or do you think everyone needs it....

@Sukiesnow Yes...but how much do you need consequences...and accountability? Or do you think everyone needs it....

I think everyone needs accountability. Consequences need to fit the event.
ex. A guy calls a girl a homely slut at school.
Girls big brother hits the guy in the face. (repeatedly)
Message goes out to all that there are consequences for calling that girl a homely slut.
End result: Others don't call the girl a homely slut in school anymore.

@Will_Janitor Brilliant!!! 不不不

Hello Will! We need more of your insights... Can you help please? Further down...

It might not work out but that's okay, too.

@JustJimColo I think everyone needs accountability. Consequences need to fit the event. ex. A guy calls a girl a homely slut...

:)

What is missing tho is the bottom of the barrel message...treat people kindly... How will someone learn that message by being slugged? Possibly a message that might get through is: stay away from that girl and her brother.

@Sukiesnow :) What is missing tho is the bottom of the barrel message...treat people kindly... How will someone learn...

I don't think so. We have been trying that "treat people kindly" thing for decades and it hasn't worked. Bullying in schools hasn't gone down a bit.
I don't think people would stay away from that girl at all. It would probably be the opposite. Others would feel "safe" around her.
Sometimes, when a person wants to be friends with someone "different", they stay clear because of fear of being a target themselves as well.

@JustJimColo I don't think so. We have been trying that "treat people kindly" thing for decades and it hasn't worked. Bullying...

But...instead of using violence...shouldn't the brother have sat down the moron and explained it to him?

Or do some people better understand violence?

@Sukiesnow But...instead of using violence...shouldn't the brother have sat down the moron and explained it to him? Or do...

No. At that stage of the game, he acted appropriately. A boy who would say that to a girl in public at school, would laugh at anyone who "talked" to them.
These are lessons we have abolished from schools, and the results have carried over into adulthood. Zero accountability, and zero consequences, has made it OK for people to say and do what they want.
What would have happened if that boy had been white and the girl black? (Front page national news)
What would have happened if the girl was white and the boy black? Nothing.
That's what we are letting them teach in society.

@JustJimColo No. At that stage of the game, he acted appropriately. A boy who would say that to a girl in public at school...

I wish other people would weigh in on this issue. It's too interesting to talk about alone. And too diverse.

So you are really saying...some people do understand violence...it's too bad but it's probably what they grew up with...

We need another woman's input...where's Drue when you need her.

The course of our futures is determined by the sum of our thoughts and deeds.

Everything we do has consequences, even if we do not recognize them.

We are not alone, we are inexorably tied to others from the womb to the tomb. There is no escaping that what we say and do (everything we say and everything we do) matters. Every action of every human bends the shape of reality - imperceptibly perhaps - but what is an ocean of change unless it is the collections of every tiny droplet of change.

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