I support castration for rapists
Because it is of course a far better use of time, effort, money and resource to incarcerate mass murderers for life right?
Maybe. But consider the number of people who have been wrongly convicted of crimes through the years. Isn't it possible, if not probable, that we have executed innocent people?
That's what scares me...
Ditto. The reality is our judicial system is flawed. We make mistakes. That is unacceptable when dealing with a death sentence.
Agreed. As I said, the system is flawed.
However there are far more cases of innocent people who have been wrongly convicted.
There was a study done in 2014 here in the US.
The researchers found that between 1973 and 2004 1.4% of the people sentenced to die were later exonerated.
However, crime statistics show that about 4% of all persons convicted of any crime are actually innocent.
And that difference?
That difference means we have almost certainly executed innocent people. I(t also means we have innocent people sitting on death row and innocent people serving life sentences without the possibility of parole.)
Of course most criminals claim they're innocent.
But what does that have to do with the cases that were later exonerated? Courts don't just take the word of the defendant when deciding to overturn a death sentence.
That's a horrific story. I'm so sorry for you lose JD.
However if and when parole is granted to someone who has committed murder is a different issue.
I was talking about innocent people who have been wrongly convicted.
No, there is no solution that is completely fair.
What I don't get, is how you keep introducing this subject on posts that have nothing to do with it.
It's time to stop painting a group of people with the same broad brush stroke. Nuances, sh...nuances.
How do you see it? From where do you see it... I don't see much difference between Conservatives or Liberals.... We are ALL just people!!
Let's see; Appeals cost a fortune, the threat of death has been proven NOT to be a deterrent, and we are the only civilized country that is still killing people for killing people. Kinda of a no brainer.
Except that it isn't a deterrent, otherwise, Texas and Florida would be the two safest places in the world to live...and we know that they are anything but.
Only in this country would we think that death is harsher than rotting away in prison.
I am very sorry for your loss, Briani, I hope they find the guy, and bring your family closure.
I brought up deterrent because you would suspect that anyone would think twice before taking a life, if they thought their death would be the consequence, But I guess they feel they won't be caught, or just so jaded, that they don't care.
I believe California has the death penalty, or it did.
I certainly agree with the last part.
How many people convicted or rape or murder are released and commit the same crimes again? How many people who are executed for those crimes commit them again.
"How many people who are executed for those crimes commit them again."
And how many, just replace them.
Zero "replace" them. There will always be murderers and rapists out there. We just need to keep thinning the heard or we will be overrun.
You will never "thin" the heard, and execution is not the answer.
So are you saying, just give up?
What is the answer then Dru?
Have we ever given up?
I have stated three reasons why I believe execution is not the answer.
Lock them up, and make them work for the state.
You said we will never thin the herd. To me, that is giving up.
How many people who are locked up, "work for the state?"
New York City is an expensive place to live for just about everyone, including prisoners.
The city paid $167,731 to feed, house and guard each inmate last year, according to a study the Independent Budget Office released this week.
No, we will never thin the herd. I think people are more callous, and more desensitize now, then in previous generations.
And as I have stated, with APPEALS, that could go as long as twenty years +, it is REALLY EXPENSIVE.
I didn't say how many are working for the state, nor is that the point. You asked me what would be my idea of a solution, and I gave you an example.
Nope, not possible.
Odd. I expected far more disagrees.
I prefer slavery to be the highest form of punishment, instead of death. Let the evil bastards earn the resources being spent on them.
What happened to the good ol' punishnent of exile? Why do we insist on babysitting these people (very loose interpretation for our jail system, which is horrific by itself) or killing them?
I do believe in many cases the Death Penalty is too kind.
As could any of my views be wrong.