[WCAMStudios] Shhhh.... if you’re quiet, we might just get out of this place alive.
I hear there are many leaving. If it continues, Cali won't be able to afford its idiocracy.
On a side note: I hate clickbait YouTube titles. "Disappearing" makes it sound as if it isn't of their own accord...and I have recently run across accounts of people actually disappearing, never to be seen/heard from again. And those accounts primarily came from western states.
Many may be leaving, but the population is still growing, so apparently people are still moving here.
Yep. The birthrate is down below the replacement rate, yet the population is growing. Hispanics and Latinos now outnumber whites, so where might a good percentage of those moving be from? I imagine when you factor in lower income brackets, those needing some form of welfare, and those working under the table that it would take quite a few to make up for each higher income person leaving when it comes to taxes. And that's not even factoring in the homeless. The state relies heavily on the wealthy for tax revenues, and while you do have a large number of wealthy there, and even a good number unable/unlikely to move...once the economy goes into a downturn, that population growth is going to become a huge burden, and those paying the high taxes that are able to leave will likely increase.
Hispanics now come close to outnumbering whites, but not all those Hispanics are illegals. We have all our medical care done at Cedars in Los Angeles. There seems to be a lot more Jewish, Persian, and Hispanic doctors than there are WASPS, I can assure you, the Hispanics aren't here illegally, nor are they on welfare.
Yes there are a lot of poor in this state, and that is a problem, but there is still a lot of opportunity here also.
Due to our weather, the homless seem to gravitate here. One can be homeless at the beach, or homeless in the desert in 120 degree heat, I guess I can't blame them for choosing the beach.
I also heard the top 3 ag producing counties in the country are all in California, Kern at 22.5 Billion, Tulare at 22.3 Billion and Fresno at 22.25 Billion. Unemployment in Ca is somewhere in the 5% range, so not bad.
Latinos and Hispanics surpassed whites in mid-2014. I did not claim they were all illegals, or even that most were. But you cannot honestly claim there aren't illegals there, and a higher percentage than in many states simply because of the state being on the border, the climate, and the established L/H community there.
How many are on welfare and just what constitutes "welfare" is apparently a point of contention. Politifact does not think that school lunches and medicaid are welfare, but even excluding those, there is still a significant number of immigrant households on welfare and the number is significantly higher than native households: between 41% and 55%, depending upon whose numbers you accept.
Right now the economy is booming, but historically downturns have a significant impact. Now that is true everywhere, but I have to believe the impact is greater in states with both a high welfare rate and a high cost of living. And while I do not believe there is an imminent economic crash in our future, it'll happen eventually, it always does.
We have a large number of medical facilities here and I've had reason to visit the majority of them. A great many of our doctors are also foreign, the largest percentage being either Indian or Arabic, disproportionate to their numbers in the general population, so that doesn't really factor in to my thinking.
I was not putting down all Californians, or all immigrants. My primary point was the idiotic (in my opinion) laws and policies in California. Some of which, quite notably of late, include policies specifically regarding illegal immigrants, which was really the only reason I mentioned immigrants at all.
I agree, I live here and Brown has some really screwy laws. The latest, which is a real head shaker is all public schools as well as charter schools have to teach LGBT acceptance as early as kindergarten. I just think this is one idiotic law. 5 and 6 year olds aren't interested in sex, and have no basis of knowledge to make a decision about what gender they think they may be.
This state needs to run some moderate republicans for the state assembly. The Republican party keeps nominating hard line conservatives, and they will never win, but a moderate republican has an excellent chance of winning. I would like to see the assembly a bit more balanced myself. Too many liberals, and they tend to go wild and pass some really inane laws.
Just my opinion though, you don't have to agree.
Oh, I agree. :)
I'm quite baffled here, to say, at least.
In California they welcome and protect illegal immigrants, and issue them driver's licenses, allow them to hold public office; pass some of the most idiotic legislation; have the highest maximum income tax in the country; made it illegal in some circumstances to call people he/she, him/her; there are ~ 58,000 homeless in LA county, which is home to some of the richest Hollywood stars; the homeless in SF are defecating in the streets, etc. Many people are sick of it all and moving to neighboring states.
That's why I live up in the hills! I don't see much of any of this.
I get that. I know there are swaths, at least in NoCal, that are red. It's that way here, too. The cities, particularly the factory towns, are blue, but out in the country and up north, it's red.
Still, y'all have to deal with the taxes and the asinine laws...no matter where you live in the state.
That's true but the wages here are pretty darn good also. I ignore most of the stupid laws anyway! LOL
A lot of people do. And many of those laws do not even affect a lot of people, which makes them easy to ignore. One day, though, people are going to be smacked upside the head with the fact that they let too many stupid laws pass and then it'll hit them that it's too damn late to complain.
It may not happen in your lifetime, Rooster, or mine...but happen it will.
You said it before I could! I doubt whether it will happen in my lifetime! LOL. But you are right, it WILL happen.
I was born and raised in Cal. and have seen some people leave but it doesn't seem to be a big issue here. Yes, ole Brownie is a goofball Governor and some of his idiotic taxes are worthless but where I'm at in the foothills? I guess I'm far enough away for some of these things to really bother me. Guess I'm just used to it after all of these years. You also have to remember that Northern Cal. is a lot different than So. Cal. What you read and what you actually see are two different things.
It's interesting. They are losing 2.5% from domestic migration, yet the total population is growing at 6.1% I don't know if those numbers can actually be trusted, but if they are correct there will be some major changes in that state in the next 10 years that will be interesting to watch.
I was born and raised here. I get frustrated with the taxes and the way the state is run, but I still love it here. The ocean, deserts, mountains and forests are all within driving distance ... and when the mood strikes, easy access to lots of amusement parks, plays, and concerts. It's home!
CALIFORNIA: PEOPLE ARE QUIETLY DISAPPEARING
CA seems to have a government that protects incoming people while foisting their care on the citizens. When the DACA kids get up and boasts about how they graduated from college and are contributing to society, I always have to wonder who paid for their meals, health care and education? Who paid for their parents while these kids were growing up. Just wondering when watching
what is going on.