Well said, T.
Few on either side truly desire discussion, much less solutions.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
I couldn't care less what label they choose for me..
If I were bothered by irrational name calling, I wouldn't have made it out of the 4th grade.
I don't watch or get whipped up by liberal media, so you have to take that in account.
I don't let this crazy shit bother me and take it day by day.
99.9% of the time... saying nothing, helps preserve your sanity over arguing with a stop sign.
Just not worth it..
Help me understand this "callous disregard for life" on the part of we open border supporters? I don't see that at all, what am I missing?
I am a surviving member of a family killed maimed and raped by US citizens. Life goes on. Please put down your dog whistle, you know darn well illegal immigrants comment fewer crimes than do conservative citizens. I don't hear you calling for a ban on them?
Not at all. Open the borders and stop the suffering. Period
Are you sure? You said "so as to regulate the influx of immigrants".
I know it is a major talking point for wallies, but I don't think it matters how many come in.
So you are afraid that those coming in will not comply with the laws?
Do not try to snow me with this codependent crap,Theseus ESPECIALLY on Christmas eve
Here is a solution. Let people in so they can have a better life like my grandparents had.
Because the ones coming to the gate are having their familes separated, being bombed with tear gas, and/or generally being treated like criminals.
And don't tell me Obama did the same, that doesn't make it right.
Wouldn't having all business use e-verify to ensure those being hired are here legally, and denying all welfare, medicaid and entry to schools for illegals solve the problem without having to spend a penny?
I think I would prefer drones, and electronic sensors for detection over a wall. Are they going to sink that wall 20 ft below ground to make it harder to tunnel under? So many other options instead of a silly wall to protect the border.
Getting Congress to work together might just be a thing of the past. Too divisive now.
Yep, you've got it right.
The entire anti immigration cult is and always has been based on racism, fear and hatred. There will never be a fucking wall. The answer is obvious. Free, easy and legal immigration. Immigrants make America great. Racist make American stupid and weak.
You sound like you would be fun at parties.
Nothing but bullshit.
I've never seen anyone say anything about keeping LEGAL immigrants out.
People trying to get in here legally, wouldn't have any concern about a wall.
"Legal"? the process is you walk up to the border and ask for entry, our response should be to say "welcome to America". Instead we take away your kids, lock you up and/or fire tear gas at you, all violation of international law.
No, the process isn't just walking up to the border and asking for entry.
Laws...learn them, know them, live them..or get locked up, your choice.
Plain and simple, not hard to understand.
I have an idea though, if that's how you feel the law should be.
Tomorrow morning, go to the bank and ask for a million dollars, stay persistent about it..
When the cops are hauling you away, just explain to them, that you asked politely.
I'm sure they'll do everything they can to help you.
That's is called a small business loan. Happens every day. Never been hauled away for following the process.
Yea, you just nailed it....now follow the process at the border..
I am only blaming you who allow politics to set the direction for what is clearly a moral question: Do we treat others as humans or do we treat them as sub human?
I don't compromise with white nationalists. I am not saying you are one, I am saying that those in charge of current policy are. I will not compromise with racists. Those enforcing the policies are behaving like racists, from Trump right down to many of the front line ICE agents. Very uncool.
What part is bull? You think Racist don't make America weak? Or you think only people who can afford lawyers should be allowed in? Or you don't fear immigrants?
Libs still think the name calling game works.
No we don't. See that's where many folks make the mistake, we (libs) do not think we are entitled, we think you are entitled. We can't sleep well thinking that if you get ill or lose your job, there will be no social support in place because heartless conservatives removed those programs to provide tax cuts to those who need them the least.
Sounds like True, you are letting ignorance of the opposition inform your opinion.
How can you be responsible for what goes on in my head? You're not even clear on what goes on in your own.
Let everyone in. I agree. Make it easy to apply and even easier to be accepted.
Let them walk in, immediately give them a social security card and a certificate of citizenship.
Any other approach is xenophobic.
And if the vast majority of the newcomers that you would so generously let in and grant citizenship to were going to vote Republican, we would be hearing Schumer and Pelosi screaming for strict border control.
I am neither. I say let them in.
I didn't say you would be screaming, Vic, just the top Democrats who want power.
They are idiots
Agreed, but their focus is not humanitarian; it's political power.
Not sure why you bring than up,but OK.
I don't need to understand anyone's opinion except my own which I formed at my mother's knee, Matt 25:35-40. Amen.
I hope you also learned chapter 23, as it applies to the Democrats' leadership:
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity."
Sounds like Republicans to me. Liberals I know are sincere in their desire to follow the ideals of brotherly love.
I said the Dem leadership, Vic. And yeah, I've noticed how sincere they are.
Why should I be different from you.
That seems fair. Let all the racists move yo Texas.
Gas lighting bullshit my friend. ISIS has no problem recruiting US citizens.
Actually it is below and you asked if you could "help yourself to" my wife. It is only rape if she says "no".
See. I miss judged you, a true gentleperson.
I think that is the definition
dislike or fear of people from other countries.
"I don't dislike them, I just don't want them around me "
Sounds to me like you are afraid immigrants will "help themselves" to your possessions and family.
If he actually had to open his doors like that, he would be asking Trump "What's taking so long with the wall?"
That's the trouble with bleeding hearts.
They like to make things sound good... until it actually happens to them.
Let her run...Lol
Nutty Pelosi is Speaker again, they don't know when to quit.
My doors are open.
Like I said, "when it actually happens".
When what happens?
Hmmm...I don't know, I seem to have forgotten.
You can, anyone "can". I am sure my wife would prefer you ask permission before you "help yourself" that is, after all, only common decency, something that all my "liberal" friends understand. In fact, that you even ask such a question brings into concern your fitness for being a member of our society. But besides that point...
No one I know would consider taking any of those things without discussing it first. And yes my door is unlocked and I am happy to share anything in my home with you, except of course the bodies of other humans that happen to be there, that would be entirely up to them.
You nailed it again, Vic. He lied and said Mexico would pay for the wall and his supporters actually believed him, and now they are willing to shell out their money to help him get his wall, it will never happen.
He only wants a wall so he can put his name on it.
Geez what a doofus we have for a president.
You got it right in your own little narrow mind, no arguing that.