I don't know, the appetite for free stuff is bottomless. Of course, nothing is really free, the government can only give you what it has taken from someone else in the form of taxation, or taken from your future self and your children in the form of debt.
OH ya maze everything free makes a country deteriorate and fast, if you don't have to work for anything you will not work becoming a slug and then expect more demand more. If they got free college and free healthcare then they will want free rent and groceries. It would never end
That's fine, but you can't really contribute to the economy if you're impoverished or dead
I think part of the reason America became so successful was the absence of government welfare programs. Churches and charities kept people from starving, but if you wanted any kind of a life you had to figure out how to contribute. A lot of people who came to America found it was too difficult and went home.
Since there were no labor standards, it was easy to get experience, you could work for peanuts until you got good at something, then either get a raise from your employer or shop around for another job. It was common for upper management to have worked their way up from nothing.
It was a society where the winners won and the losers lost, high stakes, but it led to enormous creativity, innovation and drive.
Sure, but that was then and this is now. Both then and now, the only stories that are popular are the successful ones. Rags to riches. All that jazz. Those people are not the majority. There are very few people that can live debt-free without having the luxury of a college education or intensive (and expensive) training in a trade.
When someone is born into poverty, or when health problems that they have no control over force them into massive amounts of debt, how the hell are they supposed to thrive?
In my area the high schools are offering college courses that can be transferred to the local community colleges, so you have part of your college before you ever start. My neighbor's grand daughter did that so she got into healthcare and a job in 2 years, That seems very fair to me. She had some student loan to pay but hey everything costs something. Me on the other hand, I got good office jobs right out of high school and worked for companies that paid for some college courses, I got my associates degree in business without paying for it. See there are ways if you are smart and patient.
Of course (and congrats!)
But that's not what life is like for many people that are poor poor. I don't think that college should be free for everyone, but it should be affordable for everyone. It should be just as much of an option for the person that can't enroll in college courses or involve themself in extracurricular a during high school because they're working to help pay bills as it is for someone who is raised comfortably. I didn't need free college because my family was able to pay for it and still make ends meet. But that's not a reality for everyone.
Likewise, I don't need free healthcare to pay for a visit to urgent care when I'm sick. But some people do. If I needed an intensive medical procedure done, or if I had a chronic illness, it would be difficult to pay for but I could probably manage. But, again, that is not everyone's reality.
I guess my main point is that free higher education or healthcare for all isn't realistic. But the fact that higher education and healthcare aren't attainable for many people is absolutely ridiculous to me.
Hah! Like all those upscale college reservations would trickle down or up to the middle class! I like your sense of humor.
Yes. Many people who are arguing for and supporting " free" or far more affordable healthcare, do not think the blanket "free college" idea is very reasonable.
Specifically who or what are you referring to relative to thehe USA when you use the term "country"?
But certainly you are free to call my mere curiosity whatever you prefer.
Not many people agree on all political topics, but I think you are correct about this one.
That will never happen.