The MMR vaccine, measles, mumps, and rubella is safe and effective, amirite?

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Measles is one of the most contagious diseases out there. The measles vaccine has saved many lives.

"The measles vaccine is effective at preventing the disease, is exceptionally safe, and is often delivered in combination with other vaccines.[7][16] Vaccination resulted in an 80% decrease in deaths from measles between 2000 and 2017" wikipedia retrieved Jan 1st 2021.

Nevertheless a persistent myth exists that vaccine cause autism.

"In recent years the antivaccine movement has focused on the claim that vaccines are linked to neurological injury, and specifically to the neurological disorder autism, now referred to as autism spectrum disorder (ASD). However the scientific evidence overwhelmingly shows no correlation between vaccines in general, the MMR vaccine specifically, or thimerosal (a mercury-based preservative) in vaccines with ASD or other neurodevelopmental disorders." sciencebased medicine

Now then what is responsible for the increase in autism cases? This is due to brocading of definition of autism and more watchful doctors.

"Further, the best epidemiological evidence suggests that the rise in the diagnosis rate of ASD is an artifact of broadening the definition of autism, diagnostic substitution, and increased surveillance. Therefore there isn’t really an autism “epidemic” just a change in the definition and efforts to make the diagnosis." sciencebased medicine

This myth has been kept alive by a villain named Andrew Wakefield. Wakefield has fear-mongered for profit about a vaccine that is 97% effective against measles.

"One dose of MMR vaccine is 93% effective against measles, 78% effective against mumps, and 97% effective against rubella.

Two doses of MMR vaccine are 97% effective against measles and 88% effective against mumps." CDC

Measles killed more than 140,000 people in 2018. Yes, 2018 and still we must suffer these loses. Thanks a lot Wakefield.


Worldwide more than 140,000 people died from measles in 2018, according to new estimates from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the United States Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention (CDC). These deaths occurred as measles cases surged globally, amidst devastating outbreaks in all regions.

Most deaths were among children under 5 years of age. Babies and very young children are at greatest risk from measles infections, with potential complications including pneumonia and encephalitis (a swelling of the brain), as well as lifelong disability - permanent brain damage, blindness or hearing loss.

Recently published evidence shows that contracting the measles virus can have further long-term health impacts, with the virus damaging the immune system’s memory for months or even years following infection. This ‘immune amnesia’ leaves survivors vulnerable to other potentially deadly diseases, like influenza or severe diarrhoea, by harming the body’s immune defenses.

“The fact that any child dies from a vaccine-preventable disease like measles is frankly an outrage and a collective failure to protect the world’s most vulnerable children,” said Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreysus, Director-General of the World Health Organization. “To save lives, we must ensure everyone can benefit from vaccines - which means investing in immunization and quality health care as a right for all.”" world health organization. 5 December 2019

Measles is still a problem in the USA.

"Measles vaccination

The main reason for the decrease in measles cases and deaths is due to high vaccination rates. The widely used MMR vaccine protects against measles, mumps, and rubella and is safe and effective. In 2017, around 91.5 percent of children aged 19 to 35 months had received the MMR vaccine. However, in recent years there has been a rise in measles cases in many parts of the world due to vaccine hesitancy.

Vaccine hesitancy

Vaccine hesitancy refers to a refusal or reluctance to have children vaccinated despite the overwhelming evidence that vaccines are safe and effective. " statista

The reason why measles is so difficult to contain and vaccine hesistancy is so dangerous is that measles has an r value to 12-18.

"Yet, all these are far outstripped by the R nought value assigned to measles: 12-18, the CDC says." By Mindy Weisberger February 08, 2019 livescience

This means that for every sick person with measles, they will infect 12-18 healthy people. To give a comparison covid-19 has an r value of 1.1-3.5. Note covid-19 is a novel disease and there is much information to learn.

This is just the measles part of the vaccination, mumps and rubella are also dangerous.

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Thanks for the info... Something causes autism though???

@Toounknown Thanks for the info... Something causes autism though???

Your welcome. Genetics is the primary reason.

A new study reinforces the conclusion that autism is primarily genetic

Last week, the largest epidemiological study of its kind was published and concluded, once again, that autism is primarily due to genes and that the environmental component of autism risk is much smaller. Not surprisingly, once again antivaxers didn’t want to hear that message.
David Gorski on July 22, 2019


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@vegan Your welcome. Genetics is the primary reason. " A new study reinforces the conclusion that autism is primarily...

I would be cautious of any doctor blaiming genes for anything ..it seems like a lazy solution ...would a person with " bad genes" always give birth to an austist child??? How can the same genes then produce different outcomes.... ... Not to mention that anti vaccers believe the vaccines are affecting our genes, damaging our dna code

@Toounknown I would be cautious of any doctor blaiming genes for anything ..it seems like a lazy solution ...would a person...

To understand genes, an elementary level of evolution is required. Evolution is the random mutations of genes being passed on via reproduction. Most mutations matter very little, but have cumulative effect like snowfall. One or two mutations, I doubt anyone could tell, the difference.

Next, is a need for a little bit of knowledge about the biological reproductive process. There are dominant genes and recessive genes. Generally speaking for a rare trait to show up you need double recessive genes, this is how I was taught why some people are left handed and others right.

That being said both parents can be right handed and the child left, and same goes with autism. Again, I am not a doctor and this explanation may be inaccurate or even incorrect.
If you wanted more information on genetic disorders a good place to start would be sickle cell anemia in my opinion.

"This condition is caused by mutations in the HBB gene and is inherited in an autosomal recessive pattern" NIH

This confirms that since the disease is part of recessive genes, both parents could be healthy and the child have sickle cell anemia. I think autism is similar.

As for the anti-vaxxers believing that vaccines are effecting our genes, they can believe whatever they want, yet they have no evidence. Finally, that's what vaccine safety trials are for.


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