Nah dude. I love graveyards. They're like public parks or monuments. They're contemplative spaces. Not everything needs to be ultra utilitarian. If you wanna get angry about something that takes up space, get angry about golf courses. Those hoes gotta go.
My mum still visits my brother every year on his birthday and his anniversary. It has been 30 years. I would say that it us very important for her. I suspect there are lots of people who feel the same. All those grieving people are living people and they are using that space.
Yes, cemeteries are for the living, not the dead. I still decorate my grandmother's grave for each season. In Ireland, they plant gardens over the grave. Visiting graveyards there was my favorite thing to do because of all the flowers.
Nah. Ours are kinda like parks. Benches, a food court where you can drink coffee and tons of nature with little rivers and loads of small animals that live there. It's peaceful. I go there to remember my grandmother, yes she's in my heart but the place is peaceful. I sometimes read the stones or messages left by other people and it always reminds to cherish the time I have with loved ones.
Not every piece of land has to be "useful" with buildings. The dead deserve their resting place and the living a place to come to remember the dead.
A graveyard is a combination museum and park. Go there. Have a picnic. Walk barefoot in that soft, soft grass. And they're my favorite place to go read and relax.
Graveyards serve more purposes than just a resting place for the dead. They're also highly important as mating grounds for goths. It's their mating season right now actually.
This was my father's favorite 'Dad' joke. About twice a year while driving past a graveyard (not every time, you don't want to wear it out!): "That place is really popular. People are dying to get in there." I am 65. My grandchildren are now being graced with this line.
The graveyards in my city have trees, open, green spaces, and walk paths. They are really no different than the municipal parks, minus playgrounds for the kids.
Before the relatively recent advent of public parks, cemeteries WERE the primary form of public green space. In Victorian and Edwardian times it wasn't uncommon to go sit in the graveyard for picnics and other outdoor relaxation activities. Plus you could hang out with departed loved ones.
Is it weird that I still use them this way? Haven't had a picnic in one, but I love walking around them and learning about who's buried there. I've been called morbid, but I find it relaxing
I don't think it's weird at all. A lot of people probably do. But, that's to your benefit imo. People thinking it's taboo to go chill in the graveyard makes them real nice and quite for those that don't.
Is it haunted if the ghosts are just vibing and having a good time? I'd love a forest where all the trees are hyping you up! Like I want to be a relentlessly positive ghost telling everyone who visits my tree how they're "killing it".
Technically still haunted, yes. I'm pretty sure most ghost haunting that people claim are just passive ghosts existing in an area. Ngl I'm no ghost "expert" tho.
There's a cemetery near me that's a tourist attraction in the same way an arboretum is with walking tours, trees from all over the world, a pond and even a lookout tower but even smaller cemeteries are beautiful places that are valid and worthwhile.
The main cemetery in my city is one of the most beautiful parks in town, they hire something like 20 full time gardeners and landscapers. They can afford it because privately owned cemeteries are big business.
What is a better use of space? Another Starbucks? Another apartment complex instead of an actual neighborhood?
I love graveyards. They are a great place for studying. It's beautiful and quiet. They're better than parks because there's no dog poop or screaming children. Also, they are critical for biodiversity in cities. Graveyards are some of the only places foxes, rabbits, deer, owls and other countless animals can exist without being ran over by cars in urban areas.
Even today the world is mostly uninhabited with plenty of places to expand. Also what is likely to happen to those graveyard spaces, turned into gas stations and Macdonalds as prime capitalist living space?
More importantly imo graveyards can also be seen as a public park, a bit of green land in the middle of your city that can be used for recreation. It's just that people tend to avoid them do to cultural norms.
This is Japan. Once you cannot maintain the grave site of your family, you move the urn from the grave to a big Buddhism temple. You pay up when you do and the temple does whatever appropriate. The grave site is "recycled" to other families.
One thing I don't uderstand is surerly with the increase in population groth and with graveyards outliving the average life expectancy surely we will end up with a scenario where graveyars will one day populate all of earth?
I trurly don't understand how they don't already take up more area than they do even when accounting for historical property destruction.
If this is a math equation then bodies will multiply and die, then get buried for more than 100 years, by the end of things it should just be graveyards.
Unless the plot is reused after 100 years of how ever long it takes bodies to decompose.
Most graveyards in cities that I've seen are on church grounds or are historical. In Boston there are a very graveyards that the British used for target practice and you can still see the bullet holes/marks in the headstones.
Also they're a green area in an otherwise concrete jungle.
Old school goth here. Older cemeteries should be retrofitted with walking paths. Great way for people to get in touch with history and exercise at the same time.
Graveyards, aside from their funerary functions, provide open, green spaces for the living. Anybody can go there to walk, look at the markers, and think.
Let's get rid of all the golf courses and sports fields first. Then we can worry about graveyards
This is why I want to be a tree when I die. Graveyards aren't the reason for the various living crises in the US, but ya know compressing us into plant food isn't a terrible idea.
The GPS graveyards are cool. Basically a park but buried in a shroud with a GPS locator. Still allows the density and ceremonies of burial, but the space can be used
The Trees growing inside your city are for the living people, you can either have a park or a graveyard wich is a park with more than just one purpose.
Barely related but it reminds me of this statue architecture work someone made in remembrance of the holocaust. It was a lot of platforms of varying heights with the intent to let people (especially children) climb and play on it.
But then they up n' forbid anyone to climb and play on it!
I think the idea of letting life interact with tragedy/death would be beautiful.
Golf courses are a bigger waste of resources than graveyards. At least most graveyards are open to the public. Try to wander around Indian Wells and see what happens. The Palm Springs area (population less than 300k) has over 130 separate golf courses. 90% are private.
Graveyards are for living people. It allows them to visit their loved ones after they've gone. If someone is a cremated, a friend might not be able to visit if those ashes belong to the family. In a graveyard, they can. You don't receive a tombstone until after you die, so who exactly could is be for besides the living?
Burying the deceased is an ancient, delicate process that people are very particular about and would be very resistant to change. In a way, it's just history. Let sleeping dogs lie.
Nah dude. I love graveyards. They're like public parks or monuments. They're contemplative spaces. Not everything needs to be ultra utilitarian. If you wanna get angry about something that takes up space, get angry about golf courses. Those hoes gotta go.
My mum still visits my brother every year on his birthday and his anniversary. It has been 30 years. I would say that it us very important for her. I suspect there are lots of people who feel the same. All those grieving people are living people and they are using that space.
Yes, cemeteries are for the living, not the dead. I still decorate my grandmother's grave for each season. In Ireland, they plant gardens over the grave. Visiting graveyards there was my favorite thing to do because of all the flowers.
Nah. Ours are kinda like parks. Benches, a food court where you can drink coffee and tons of nature with little rivers and loads of small animals that live there. It's peaceful. I go there to remember my grandmother, yes she's in my heart but the place is peaceful. I sometimes read the stones or messages left by other people and it always reminds to cherish the time I have with loved ones.
Not every piece of land has to be "useful" with buildings. The dead deserve their resting place and the living a place to come to remember the dead.
Graveyards are for the living, not the dead.
My mom said the same thing about funerals
this just made me all of a sudden realise how bizarre it is that we keep dead bodies in the ground
We should just eat them. /s
A graveyard is a combination museum and park. Go there. Have a picnic. Walk barefoot in that soft, soft grass. And they're my favorite place to go read and relax.
The large old graveyards of old cities are amazing beautiful places. They are mirrors of the city itself.
We don't need another Chipotle or high density housing
They allow people green space to breathe.... they were be our biofuel of the future.
Graveyards serve more purposes than just a resting place for the dead. They're also highly important as mating grounds for goths. It's their mating season right now actually.
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Sorry Grandma no more graveyards
it's true, our local graveyard is so popular, people are dying to get in
My grandfather was a gravedigger (no joke). He used to say he had 500 people under him and not a one talked back
he was really building a healthy work environment from the ground up
Ground down honestly
This was my father's favorite 'Dad' joke. About twice a year while driving past a graveyard (not every time, you don't want to wear it out!): "That place is really popular. People are dying to get in there." I am 65. My grandchildren are now being graced with this line.
The graveyards in my city have trees, open, green spaces, and walk paths. They are really no different than the municipal parks, minus playgrounds for the kids.
I think golf courses are a much bigger waste of space than graveyards.
I mean I don't think there is a problem inherently with reserving some space for a sport, people enjoy golf and that's okay
Maybe combine them. Greenspace for golf and graves. I'd like to be buried under the 18th hole.
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Then we can put you under... *checks availability* ...the 12th hole sand trap.
Before the relatively recent advent of public parks, cemeteries WERE the primary form of public green space. In Victorian and Edwardian times it wasn't uncommon to go sit in the graveyard for picnics and other outdoor relaxation activities. Plus you could hang out with departed loved ones.
Is it weird that I still use them this way? Haven't had a picnic in one, but I love walking around them and learning about who's buried there. I've been called morbid, but I find it relaxing
I don't think it's weird at all. A lot of people probably do. But, that's to your benefit imo. People thinking it's taboo to go chill in the graveyard makes them real nice and quite for those that don't.
Ours have playgrounds.. had a blast there as a kid
Sounds like we need to start asking for playground themed headstones. I'm going to go with monkey bars.
I want to be a tree. They make pods that lets your decomposing body fertilize the tree. I think it should be mandatory if you want to be buried
My tree is in an all natural forest, in a place called better place forest. I saw twin fawns by my tree when I visited it.
And this is how you get haunted forests
Jk…mostly
I would love to haunt a forest in my afterlife! Sounds like heaven to me
Is it haunted if the ghosts are just vibing and having a good time? I'd love a forest where all the trees are hyping you up! Like I want to be a relentlessly positive ghost telling everyone who visits my tree how they're "killing it".
Technically still haunted, yes. I'm pretty sure most ghost haunting that people claim are just passive ghosts existing in an area. Ngl I'm no ghost "expert" tho.
A fruit tree so that your relatives can come eat grandpas corpse apples!
Coffin slides
See-saw here, but with one end in the ground.
I think it would be pretty cool if my gravestone was a pull up bar or something then people could do an exercise circuit through the graveyard.
Monkey bars but the bars are made of bones!
There's a cemetery near me that's a tourist attraction in the same way an arboretum is with walking tours, trees from all over the world, a pond and even a lookout tower but even smaller cemeteries are beautiful places that are valid and worthwhile.
The main cemetery in my city is one of the most beautiful parks in town, they hire something like 20 full time gardeners and landscapers. They can afford it because privately owned cemeteries are big business.
Be honest, if not for those graveyards, they would be paved over and replaced with parking lots for big box stores.
Yeah the graveyards make that huge difference
wait until he hears about parking lots
What is a better use of space? Another Starbucks? Another apartment complex instead of an actual neighborhood?
I love graveyards. They are a great place for studying. It's beautiful and quiet. They're better than parks because there's no dog poop or screaming children. Also, they are critical for biodiversity in cities. Graveyards are some of the only places foxes, rabbits, deer, owls and other countless animals can exist without being ran over by cars in urban areas.
Even today the world is mostly uninhabited with plenty of places to expand. Also what is likely to happen to those graveyard spaces, turned into gas stations and Macdonalds as prime capitalist living space?
More importantly imo graveyards can also be seen as a public park, a bit of green land in the middle of your city that can be used for recreation. It's just that people tend to avoid them do to cultural norms.
Dumb take. I don't want grandma buried in my mattress.
This is Japan. Once you cannot maintain the grave site of your family, you move the urn from the grave to a big Buddhism temple. You pay up when you do and the temple does whatever appropriate. The grave site is "recycled" to other families.
My fam did this.
Not every inch of land needs to be apartments or strip mall
I love grave yards, they are truly the only good place to steal bodies from
100%. I wanna be buried under a tree when I die. No chemicals or anything like that. Just let nature run its course and turn me into a tree.
One thing I don't uderstand is surerly with the increase in population groth and with graveyards outliving the average life expectancy surely we will end up with a scenario where graveyars will one day populate all of earth?
I trurly don't understand how they don't already take up more area than they do even when accounting for historical property destruction.
If this is a math equation then bodies will multiply and die, then get buried for more than 100 years, by the end of things it should just be graveyards.
Unless the plot is reused after 100 years of how ever long it takes bodies to decompose.
Where else are goths supposed to go to write poetry and to do it OP?!
Most graveyards in cities that I've seen are on church grounds or are historical. In Boston there are a very graveyards that the British used for target practice and you can still see the bullet holes/marks in the headstones.
Also they're a green area in an otherwise concrete jungle.
Come to France and other European countries. Cemeteries are some of the best places to take a walk and admire, appreciate History.
When the graveyards you describe were first opened in my town/city, they were actually outside of the urban area and using empty land.
Urban sprawl has just enveloped these places and changed our perspective of the land use.
Anyway, I'm doing my bit to reduce graveyard usage by carefully cremating my victims and using the ashes to carbonate the soil around my rose bushes.
What an inspiration. Remember to do your part everybody!!
You're a true team player...we need more of that in the world today.
Old school goth here. Older cemeteries should be retrofitted with walking paths. Great way for people to get in touch with history and exercise at the same time.
Many people walk the graveyard in my city
I would argue that graverads ARE for the living people. The dead don't care.
I disagree. Graveyards can give comfort to living family members as a place to visit, walk and reflect.
Besides - they basically act as a green space.
Living people grieve, graveyards are a space for them to do that. So it is benefiting living people.
Graveyards, aside from their funerary functions, provide open, green spaces for the living. Anybody can go there to walk, look at the markers, and think.
Let's get rid of all the golf courses and sports fields first. Then we can worry about graveyards
What do you want to do when you die?
Donate your body to science? Be buried as a tree?
This is why I want to be a tree when I die. Graveyards aren't the reason for the various living crises in the US, but ya know compressing us into plant food isn't a terrible idea.
The GPS graveyards are cool. Basically a park but buried in a shroud with a GPS locator. Still allows the density and ceremonies of burial, but the space can be used
The Trees growing inside your city are for the living people, you can either have a park or a graveyard wich is a park with more than just one purpose.
(all of it only if it's not a stone garden)
Barely related but it reminds me of this statue architecture work someone made in remembrance of the holocaust. It was a lot of platforms of varying heights with the intent to let people (especially children) climb and play on it.
But then they up n' forbid anyone to climb and play on it!
I think the idea of letting life interact with tragedy/death would be beautiful.
Local graveyard is also a dog park. It's kind of great to see it being used in such a fun way.
Hey the greybeards are good people, they teach you shouts
They are not for the dead. They are to remind us that we will die. They serve (or should) important psychosocial function.
I like graveyards, especially when they are full of native plants. Golf courses, on the other hand...
Quiet neighbors though…
I agree with this. It's a waste of land and resources.
Funerals is.big business so good luck changing that though.
Cremation should be the standard.
Not every square inch of a city needs to be covered in concrete.
It sounds to me like you have a bone to pick with graveyards
Golf courses are a bigger waste of resources than graveyards. At least most graveyards are open to the public. Try to wander around Indian Wells and see what happens. The Palm Springs area (population less than 300k) has over 130 separate golf courses. 90% are private.
Sounds like someone who has never flushed a 6 iron perfectly from 172 yards out and been left with a 5 inch tap in for birdie
It was the same in Vegas when i lived there. Way too many golf courses for an area that doesn't have much water to start with.
Do you want haunted houses? Building over burial grounds is how you get haunted houses.
The housing crisis is not caused by graveyards.
Bury them vertically to save space.
theres not really a lack of space on earth
Graveyards are for living people. It allows them to visit their loved ones after they've gone. If someone is a cremated, a friend might not be able to visit if those ashes belong to the family. In a graveyard, they can. You don't receive a tombstone until after you die, so who exactly could is be for besides the living?
Burying the deceased is an ancient, delicate process that people are very particular about and would be very resistant to change. In a way, it's just history. Let sleeping dogs lie.
OK, but… GOLF COURSES.