I'm not sure wielding electricity has been the best move on the part of humanity, amirite?

also like most babies would die at birth and half of mothers

by Anonymous 23 hours ago

i don't know about this. can you say how?

by reginald87 23 hours ago

No electricity = no advancements in medical technology beyond the 19th century = risky childbirth.

by No_Put5192 23 hours ago

What makes you think that non-electrical ways would be any better?

by Anonymous 23 hours ago

I am trying to find the info now but there is a conspiracy that a long time ago (I think pre-Tesla?) there was an alternative to electricity that used the energy already in the earth or something like that. And that using electricity put humans on the "negative" path where we are taking energy from the earth instead of the "good/godlike" path of us working "with" the energy already available without needing to actually harvest anything from the planet. Something about how we as a species could advance a lot farther if we understood how the world worked instead of forcing our understanding of the universe into existence I know this does not in any way answer your question since I dont actually remember the details im just hoping somebody here reads this and knows what im talking about and can chime in with the "real" info lol

by Wild-Challenge-3177 22 hours ago

Its called Final Fantasy 7

by fredaauer 22 hours ago

i'm not saying they would. but i feel like the pros of no electricity and eventually finding non-electrical ways of doing the same things would outweigh the cons

by reginald87 22 hours ago

their aren't "non electrical ways" to do 99% of the things we use electricity for today, what lol

by AdDifferent654 22 hours ago

We had cosmology for 1,000's of years, brain surgery in Roman times, germs were discovered long before electricity, etc. The advancement would be at a different place but you're underestimating just how much knowledge humanity has accumulated over time. Now the reason that anyone knows any of that is most likely specifically because of electricity, however. It's not electricity that's the problem anyway, it's mainly oil.

by Anonymous 21 hours ago

how would it though? We live in a much worse world for no guarantee we find anything better?

by Anonymous 21 hours ago

I think there's a lot more advantages to having electricity than detriments. Medical care, as you meantioned, is a big one. Food refrigeration is another that is greatly impacted the human race, and the plants and animals we care for.

by Langquentin 21 hours ago

Yeah, OP isn't thinking this through. Whether they're aware or not, they're signing up for a world where they eat dry shelf-stable goods for most meals, heat their home with a wood-burning stove, and ride a horse to work. Also where an infected cut could easily land them 6 feet underground and a very treatable bone fracture could lead to being disabled because no one has ever heard of an x-ray. There's so little understanding here of what all we get from using electricity.

by Anonymous 20 hours ago

Maybe OP just really likes hardtack and salt pork?

by Anonymous 20 hours ago

valid. but i'm also not saying let's go back to the dark ages. i'm saying what if we didn't come across electricity in the first place, and we still made it to 2025. you see

by reginald87 19 hours ago

we'd more than likely still be living like it's 1900 I'd wind it back even further. Even the unelectrified parts of the world were benefiting from the harnessing of electricity. Remember, things like the electric telegraph had been in regular use (and already being replaced by more advanced tech like phones) for over half century by then. Transatlantic cables were laid as early as the 1860s

by Anonymous 19 hours ago

Statistically speaking, if electricity wasn't invented, you probably wouldn't exist. Its estimated that the worlds population would be about 2billion, instead of 8, meaning 6 billion of the people alive today wouldn't exist, chances are you would be one of them.

by fredaauer 18 hours ago

medical care, can't deny that. but i also don't know what would happen if we made it to 2025 without electricity? could we deal with cancer without electricity? i think the probability can't be zero, can it refrigeration - well, let's work it through - less global produce, more local produce, more support for local farmers, less need to "dilute" produce to get it marketed to the mass public because of the sheer quantity required and what not. you see

by reginald87 18 hours ago

am i crazy for thinking that's alright? Yes. medical magic This is why. less anti-social behaviour in society History disagrees.

by Anonymous 18 hours ago

medical magic is the strongest point. but how does history disagree with the levels of anti social behaviour?

by reginald87 18 hours ago

The last point is just true though. People have never been more anti social in history than today

by CleanBed6902 17 hours ago

It depends on what you mean by antisocial. Anti-social personality disorder has a definition in the DSM V. Some people use the word to mean non-social, like a person who does not seek out friendship or company. Some people use it to mean a person who commits crimes. Some use it to mean a sociopath or psychopath.

by Anonymous 17 hours ago

Well western people are more mentally ill than ever too so that definition probably also applies. But I was mainly thinking of the non-diworder related type of social.

by CleanBed6902 17 hours ago

Well western people are more mentally ill than ever too Are we more mentally ill, or are we just more aware of it? It wasn't like we were diagnosing people with spectrum disorders 150 years ago....we just called them "Peculiar People" or they died as children because they didn't adjust.

by Anonymous 17 hours ago

that's complex chemistry You really underestimate what chemists built before we had electricity.

by Anonymous 16 hours ago

sorry, but that's a picture of an air pump from history. i don't see how air pumps have to do with the competence of chemists being able to make plastic without electricity

by reginald87 16 hours ago

Steam-powered CAT scans, count me in

by Anonymous 16 hours ago

i feel like cancer is more common these days, with all the pollution and what not. but i'm no expert

by reginald87 16 hours ago

Let's burn coal and not check for cancer

by Anonymous 16 hours ago

ah, i didn't say let's go back in time. i mean what if we made it to 2025 without electricity. but idk if you're serious at all about this

by reginald87 16 hours ago

Cutting off the internet is one thing, but if you take away electricity, and most peoples' means of brewing coffee, then you aren't fixing the anti-social problem, you are making it worse.

by Anonymous 15 hours ago

Definitely unpopular, but honestly it's just a step forward, not the final solution. Remember that electricity and all this came when the world was pushing hard for thermal energy, combustion engines and carbon fuel, if you think about it electricity just made us dodge a huge bullet (and we still got kinda hit by it)

by Anonymous 15 hours ago

i think we might define quality of life very differently if we didn't have electricity vs now that we have it - it's almost like life is too easy in some aspects, is it not? wake up, hungry? no need to travel to the nearest food place (or whatever it would be, idk alternate universes). just open the fridge. bored? no need to think, just open the internet. you know. but i really don't know if plastics or anything i've mentioned can be done without electricity

by reginald87 15 hours ago

Life sucked and ended early for a majority of humans before we had electricity. We literally already know what it would be like. It was that way for the entire existence of humanity up until electricity changed everything.

by Prize-Trash9344 15 hours ago

Curse you, Benjamin Franklin!

by Reasonable_Lynx 14 hours ago

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

by Ok-Significance 14 hours ago

Nope. Just no. Most of the increases in our quality of life have come from being able to more quickly communicate ideas across the globe. Without electricity, we don't have telecommunications or the insane ability we have to convey information. Also, yes many of our quality of life increases are also directly connected to electricity.

by Ziemeshaun 14 hours ago

Without electricity, and the technology that depends on it, tens on millions of people would die every year, hundreds of millions more people would live in absolute poverty, and most people would be forced to do menial manual labor to survive. Saying we would be better off without electricity is kind of like saying it is better to be a normal person than a billionaire because people say mean things about them on the Internet. Electricity is such an amazing net positive to humanity that it's downside is tiny in comparison.

by Anonymous 14 hours ago

Lmao, there would be so much more basic suffering. Might as well just take your relatives older than about 70 and execute them without electricity, they'd die from lack of environmental control. Also assume you'd be slightly more malnourished.

by Anonymous 13 hours ago

I'm gonna say no. Medical advancements and computers have been important advances. And air conditioning, but that's me being selfish.

by Maximum_Implement 13 hours ago

Right, because the 1800s you crave was so good

by Anonymous 13 hours ago

we genetically engineered crops for centuries before electricity, which also doesnt really play a huge role in it either. (breeding fruits with desirable traits leads to plants that are almost completely unregocnizable from their original)

by Physical_Sign3115 13 hours ago

also plastics arent even made with electricity their made from oil byproducts mostly

by Physical_Sign3115 13 hours ago

This is brain dead and just shows how little you understand just how much we use electricity.

by Anonymous 12 hours ago

ted kaczynski would agree with you his manifesto is all about how technology will be the end of humanity. a big part of it being that technology evolves faster than we do. we are still coded to be hunters and gatherers and live in small tribes with full autonomy. instead our lives are largely spent doing menial tasks with all our necessities like food and shelter covered. ted's argument is that this makes us all depressed and anxious.

by Anonymous 12 hours ago

Instead of electricity, everything would run either on oil or coal.

by taranitzsche 12 hours ago