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If God opposes evil, why does he not strike it down? Is he able, but not willing? Then he is sided with evil. Is he willing, but not able? Then he is not all-powerful. Is he both able and willing? Then why does evil still live? Is he neither able nor willing? Then, what sets him apart from man? Confusing, amirite?

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“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

-Epicurus

"You're Doing IT Wrong"

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Vlisss avatar Vliss Yeah You Are +2Reply

God allows bad things to happen because he gave us free will. Therefore we get to sin and we get to feel the consequences of that sin. Specifically, (if you want a theological answer) the sin of man corrupts God's perfect creation and allows other evil to manifest.

@Totobean God allows bad things to happen because he gave us free will. Therefore we get to sin and we get to feel the...

Then to follow his will, we'd better not ban abortion, or gay marriage, or drugs, or anything else your religion might call immoral; if god intentionally gives us the chance to decide for ourselves, we need to make sure each individual chooses for himself.

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Anonymous 0Reply

well that's food for thought...IM FULL!

SandboxCzars avatar SandboxCzar Yeah You Are 0Reply

Free Will - argument (nearly) over.

This isn't confusing. It makes perfect sense to me.

MrUnapologetics avatar MrUnapologetic Yeah You Are 0Reply

Honestly, could not have said it better myself. And using that free will shit, isn't gonna end the argument. He's still an accessory to our evils. As in, evil himself. Anyone willing to argue, go right ahead.
I'm waiting.

MhmStephanys avatar MhmStephany Yeah You Are 0Reply
@MhmStephany Honestly, could not have said it better myself. And using that free will shit, isn't gonna end the argument. He's...

why's he gotta be an accessory? i see a lot of bad stuff go down on the news channels daily -- I /could/ drop what I'm doing and dress up like a vigilante and go to work, but I haven't. that make me an accessory, too?

Anonymous 0Reply
@MhmStephany Honestly, could not have said it better myself. And using that free will shit, isn't gonna end the argument. He's...

if you want him to wipe out sin then your dead. we are all dead. we are all sinners, there for we ALL should be wiped out. thats why jesus died on the cross. so that our sins wouldnt get US killed because he knew that sin would be somthing humans and even animals couldnt help.

Anonymous 0Reply

Do people have problems accurately relating quotes? It's supposed to be:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is incompetent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?"

God's inability to stamp out evil would not make him "not omnipotent" but "incompetent", as the original quote goes. You can still know all and not be able to do squat in the grand scheme of things. One does not affect the other. Humans are not omnipotent, but we are not then all, by default, incompetent. The two ideas are unrelated.

Anonymous 0Reply

it is much more satisfying when you are chosen over someone else... unless you are a sadistic person who likes to see your subjects suffer in being forced against their will

Anonymous 0Reply

If God made this world perfect, it would be like heaven right? and that would be fail.

Anonymous 0Reply

Without evil we can not appreciate the good.

Anonymous 0Reply

its because everything on earth is evil. we are all sinners, down to the kid who stole a quarter from his moms perse. gods not going to strike down some kid cause of a quarter. so if you want the evil gone, then we all die, nothing left, cause we are all sinners.

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@its because everything on earth is evil. we are all sinners, down to the kid who stole a quarter from his moms...

How do you define sin? Something that is immoral in any way (such as stealing a quarter) or something that truly hurts other people or yourself? Personally, I think it's the latter. People do immoral things all the time, and still the majority of people in the world are decent and trying to be kind to others.

Anonymous 0Reply

I've heard that like cold is really the absence of heat, evil is the absence of God/good will, etc.

Anonymous 0Reply

Yeah. Controlling people is witchcraft and god is definitely not doing witchcraft...

Omnipotent means "all powerful" not "all knowing". All knowing is "omniscient". In competent doesn't even work there.

Without evil, there would be no good.

@rocknrollclown Without evil, there would be no good.

I prefer to be good without a reason, to be honest. Evil does not spur me into being good so I can prove there are semi-decent people in the world, because that is silliness.

copertis avatar coperti Yeah You Are 0Reply
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