Not if we're alone in the visible universe, and these Oxford scientists put the odds at about 50-50 that we are. think smilie

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/sc...ise-ncna891286

Christmas is over. Thank God, amirite?
Christmas is over. Thank God, amirite?

Wait a minute!
 
Christmas lasts for 12 days, like the song says!
 
It ends on Twelfth Night, the night of January 5th.

If you really think about it, being nude isn't a bad thing at all. amirite?

It depends on the situation.
 
Being nude all by myself, or with someone I like to be nude with, is fine.
 
But there are plenty  of people I would NOT  like to see nude, or be nude in their presence.  ono smilie

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@dru18 Okay, now you are trying to combine things out of sheer desperation. I know it's hard to keep up with every illegal...

"For example, Pelosi and Schiff both refrained from saying anything about impeachment until Trump got caught blackmailing the head of Ukraine, so I have no idea why you are bringing Mueller into any of this. "
 
Of course they refrained from saying it publicly. Mueller gave them ZILCH  to impeach on, much to their (and CNN's) bitter disappointment, especially since Schiff and the MSM had been very publicly assuring us for years that Mueller would deliver the goods they needed. biggrin smilie
 
"LOL! The Impeachment has nothing to do with the Mueller Report- so keep quoting two years all you want. "
 
Of course it has nothing to do with the Mueller report... the Mueller report fell on its face, despite the "message" you imagine Mueller sent to Congress. biggrin smilie
And BTW, explain to Nancy that the move for impeachment hasn't been going on for years. She seems not to have gotten your memo. biggrin smilie hehe smilie biggrin smilie
 
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Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@dru18 "The special counsel, Archibald Cox, was appointed in May of '73, articles of impeachment were drafted by the House...

"Yeah, I basically said that, now what's your point?"
 
Since you missed (or pretended to have missed) the point, I'll repeat what I wrote above:
 
In Trump's case, Mueller was appointed in May of '17, the House committee drew up articles of impeachment in Dec of '19, over TWO YEARS later, and over THREE YEARS since the putative "collusion" in Nov of '16, so the Trump investigation has been in the public eye MUCH LONGER than the Nixon investigation ever was.
 
Now I know you are not good with numbers, but make an effort — think HARD — Three years is longer than two years, and two years is longer than one year, so the Trump investigation has been in the public eye MUCH longer than the Nixon investigation ever was, and yet the polling numbers show significantly FEWER people want Trump removed than wanted Nixon removed, contrary to the nonsense you posted several comments back.  
 
"I think Mueller was definitely sending a message to Congress when he failed to clear Trump."
 
Unfortunately for your thought, even Nadler's kangaroo committee couldn't bring itself to cite obstruction of the Mueller investigation as an article of impeachment. And collusion/conspiracy? Never even came up; hasn't been mentioned since the Mueller TV fiasco. So the "message" you think Mueller sent to Congress made an impression of... zilch. biggrin smilie biggrin smilie biggrin smilie

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@dru18 Sorry but the investigation on Nixon began much sooner- Hogan was the first to abandon Nixon and two weeks later...

"Sorry but the investigation on Nixon began much sooner-"
 
Yet more nonsense on your part. The special counsel, Archibald Cox, was appointed in May of '73, articles of impeachment were drafted by the House committee in July of '74, and Nixon resigned in August of '74, a little over a year after Cox was appointed, and a little over 2 years since the Watergate breakin itself in '72.
 
In Trump's case, Mueller was appointed in May of '17, the House committee drew up articles of impeachment in Dec of '19, over TWO YEARS later, and over THREE YEARS since the putative "collusion" in Nov of '16, so the Trump investigation has been in the public eye MUCH LONGER than the Nixon investigation ever was.
 
"Hogan was the first to abandon Nixon and two weeks later Nixon resigned. Up to that point the Republicans were not abandoning Nixon. "
 
Now you're trying to bait and switch... the discussion was about how many voters in the GENERAL PUBLIC favor/favored removal. As the table I posted above shows, the percentage for removal when impeachment articles were drawn up was considerably higher in Nixon's case than in Trump's, including a LOT more republicans.
 
"You don't think including 10 counts of obstruction and not being able to clear the president of any wrong doings was NOT sending a message to Congress?"
 
Now you're tripping over your double negatives. hehe smilie Yes, I DO think Mueller was NOT sending a message to Congress; his case was too weak, so he punted, and made a total fool of himself in his public testimony on TV, much to CNN's consternation. biggrin smilie biggrin smilie biggrin smilie

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@dru18 That was much later and you know it. Can't answer for the Republicans- they seem desperate these days. We all...

"That was much later and you know it. "

That's what I love about liberals... when they make up their minds about something, they don't let plain facts get in their way. biggrin smilie hehe smilie biggrin smilie

"On July 27, 29, and 30, 1974, the Committee approved three articles of impeachment against Nixon, for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress, and reported those articles to the House of Representatives for a vote."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I..._Richard_Nixon
 
in other words, exactly where we are now with Trump.
 
The Gallup poll that I posted above was taken Aug 2-4, 1974, a few days after the committee approved articles of impeachment, NOT "much later."
 
"Indicting a President while he is still in office was never an option that Mueller could even contemplate. "
 
That's the old red herring that liberals love to offer as an excuse for the Mueller fiasco. OF COURSE Mueller wasn't going to criminally indict a sitting President; no other special counsel did either. But he COULD and SHOULD have made a recommendation to Congress for impeachment purposes if he really had the goods. That's what the others did in the Nixon and Clinton cases. The difference is that they really had the goods, whereas Mueller didn't.

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@dru18 They will not include obstruction from the Mueller report in the effort to keep this simple. I am afraid most...

"Fifty percent of this country want him not only impeached but removed from office- that is more than Nixon had at this stage. "
 
Nonsense. The House committee recommended articles of impeachment against Nixon on July 30, 1974. A Gallup poll taken Aug 2-4 showed 58% of US adults wanted him removed, including 31% of Republicans, i.e., the bipartisanship that Nancy has been so quiet about lately. biggrin smilie
 
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/26...ted-nixon.aspx
 
It's only among Democrats that a higher percentage want Trump removed than wanted Nixon out.
 
As for Mueller, if he had the goods on obstruction, he could have made a recommendation to Congress, as other special counsels have done, but he didn't, obviously because his evidence was so weak.

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@dru18 Trump has been accused of obstruction in the Mueller investigation no less than ten times. A football stadium...

"Trump has been accused of obstruction in the Mueller investigation no less than ten times."
 
An accusation isn't proof, as even the doofuses on Nadler's committee seem to understand. Otherwise, why did they not include obstruction of Mueller's investigation in their articles of impeachment? Or maybe they didn't want to do anything to remind the voting public of Mueller's bumbling performance in his 6-hour fiasco on national TV. biggrin smilie
 
"But I also know that no matter the evidence the Republicans in the Senate will do nothing to Trump-"
 
The reason they won't is that the evidence has been so weak and unconvincing that there is no political price to pay for them. Contrast that to 1974, when the special prosecutor really did  come up with the goods against Nixon. The Senate Republicans at the time said they would not support him in an impeachment trial, and so he had to resign.
 
"but maybe the voters in 2020 will."
 
Maybe, but if they don't, the Democrats will have no one to blame except themselves, because they will have muffed it again, just as they did in 2016 to give us Trump in the first place. Oh, wait... the bungling Democrats of course won't blame themselves. They'll blame Putin, the KGB and the Russians in general, just as they did then. biggrin smilie hehe smilie biggrin smilie

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@dru18 No, I don't think that if he does get re-elected, it will be because of the Democrats.

Those sanctimonious hypocrites completely botched the Mueller hearings (after they and their complicit MSM fellow travelers promised for years that Mueller would get the goods on Trump), and they very likely will botch it in the Senate trial, when the thinness of their case will once again be revealed for all to see.

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@urwutuis Cute. You do understand that those political terms are not interchangeable right/ That communism is a completely...

Of course there's a difference between social democracy and communism, but Bernie's long-standing love affair with the Soviet Union and Cuba makes me doubt he is merely a social democrat. And of course he isn't going to publicly announce that he is a Marxist. That would be too much even for Burlington, VT. (didn't stop him from becoming a millionaire, however; typical Nomenklatura type) biggrin smilie

  
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Yep, we are already drowning in socialism, with the federal, state and local governments spending about 40% of the nation's GDP. Marvelous job they're doing with it too, say in Detroit or Baltimore. biggrin smilie

To get to where Norway or Denmark is in social democracy, we would have to put 50% of GDP in the hands of govt, and transfer military spending to social programs. Oh, wait... that's exactly what Norway did, while depending on the US for defense. And how did the Norwegians get so rich? They used to be poor. Oh, yeah... all that evil, climate-changing North Sea oil. State capitalism at its finest.  biggrin smilie biggrin smilie biggrin smilie

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?
@you ever get tired watching yourself scream? 2020 hasn't even happened yet but get ready.

There's at least a 50-50 chance she'll scream again in 2020.
 
The bumbling Democrats are doing their best to make it happen. biggrin smilie

Trump will be the first president to be removed from office, amirite?