If you believe in love, you believe in God, amirite?

So true! I wish more people agreed...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

...how so?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

God is defined as love. unless you are Christian you won't believe this. but it's true

by Anonymous 13 years ago

so that would mean this post should say, "If you believe in God, you believe in love," not the other way around.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's a given. What I was going for was "If you believe in love, you believe in God—you just might not know it."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

exactly.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What about the Jewish and Islamic God, it's the same one.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The god who told Muhammed that Jesus was merely a prophet and a good man is NOT the same God who told the Jews that Jesus wasn't Messiah, and He still is NOT the same God who told the Christians that Jesus IS Messiah.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's the same god, dude, study your religion

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If it's the same God, then that God is a liar and is not to be trusted. You can't trust everything your religion books tell you; God didn't write it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, actually, they're all the same god. First God sent Moses, (To lead the Jews), then he sent Jesus, (To lead the Christians), then to Mohamed, (To lead the Muslims). God sent a new religion to make things easier for the humans, kind of like updating. The Jews had to kill themselves if they committed a sin, (Or supposed to, no one does that now) The Christians don't have to kill themselves, but they have to leave everything and pray to God only (once again they don't do that) But the Muslims only had to apologise for committing a sin. As you can see, it becomes easier every time a new religion appears. But nowadays MOST OF The Jews don't kill themselves for committing a sin. They're not following what they were told to do. And Jesus was only a prophet and a good man, just like Moses and Mohamed. He wasn't 'The son of god'. The Bible was written out 100 years after it was told to Jesus, so it was altered and changed. Only the true belivers of God (con.)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

followed what he had told them, and they converted from Jews, to Christians, to Muslims.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Apparently you don't know much about these faiths. Ancient Jews did NOT have to kill themselves when they committed a sin; they had to sacrifice a pure animal to God. Christians don't have to sacrifice an animal, because Jesus was the one truly pure sacrifice - His blood covers all of our sins. The Bible was written thousands of years before Jesus set foot on this earth. It's called the Old Testament, and it contains many, many prophesies about the coming Messiah - Jesus fulfilled every one. Also, Jesus said in the Bible that He was the Son of God. God also says in the Bible, "This is my Son." However, the 'god' that the Muslims believe in told Muhammed that Jesus was merely a prophet and a 'good man'. A 'good' man could not die for the sins of all humanity. Only a perfect being could be such a sacrifice, and the only perfect being is God Himself. Please do some research before you speak...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

All of that to say, no, they are not the same God. One of them is truth, and the others are not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Like I said, yes the Bible was written thousands of years before, BUT it was altered and changed by humanity. You sound like you're implying that Jesus is the 'perfect being' and all the other prophets are scum. Honestly, I've debated with many people about religion. But not ONE OF THEM have said that they're not the same God. You're really ignorant, and I wonder who told you that they're all the same god.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*not all

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Jesus IS perfect, yes, and He lived a perfect life when He came to earth as a child. Compared to Him, all of us are scum, even the prophets. We're all sinners. And whether or not the Bible was 'altered', the prophecies were and are still there and are the same. Have been for thousands of years. Obviously you've been debating with some ignorant people. :) You can't seem to challenge any of the evidence I've provided. Case in point.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I thought that religion was about believing, not about proof. And by saying that the prophets are scum, then you obviously are the most ignorant person I've ever met. I'm holding myself back just so I don't throw insults at you. You have just offended millions of Jews and Muslims by saying that. You just offended me, greatly. Because I'm not even a Christian. So you're saying that the Bible is the only correct book, and all the other books which say that Jesus is only a prophet, are stupid lying pieces of bullshit? I don't know what to say to you. And what evidence? I see none to be honest.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What PurpleKneeSox meant by saying they were scum is not that there is not a redeeming quality about them, but rather that, like all the rest of us, when compared to God's righteousness we fall horribly short. We turn away from Him constantly. Yes, Jesus was a human, but He was also God. And the thing is, He never sinned. And I'll divulge something here: the reason he never sinned and did so many miraculous things is NOT because He was God. He gave up that kind of power when He descended to our level. As for whether or not Jesus was actually just like any other prophet...well there is no doubt that Jesus was an actual historical figure, and there is also little doubt that His extravagant claims mentioned in the Bible were actually made. Most people don't have a problem with believing Jesus existed, or even that He had good ideas about moral teaching; they have issues accepting His claims. He claims he is able to forgive sins, heal disease...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and perform natural miracles. He also claims to be God/the Messiah/the way to God. He claims to be other-wordly, both in nature and origin. He also claims to be a fulfillment—the fulfillment—of all the Old Testament Messianic prophecies. He allows other to worship Him and to call Him God and Messiah. Most people can't find it within them to count all these claims as believable. Now, was he lying? Jesus being a liar makes no sense: the one who spoke of truth and righteousness—the greatest deceiver in history? There is no doubt Jesus was a great moral teacher; he can't be a liar at the same time. Then was he crazy? Was the whole thing in his head? Was it some other personality with delusions of grandeur coming out of him? But no, people with conditions like schizophrenia do not behave as Jesus did. Their behavior is unpredictable and uncontrollable. They are self-absorbed and normally don't get on with others. And they don't handle pressure well. Jesus exhibit...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

exhibits none of these characteristics. He was not crazy. He was a focused being with a purpose. Then is his divinity a legend, something that grew after his death? The problem with this is that there was not enough time for a legend to develop. Most of the New Testament was written by 68 AD, all of which profess Jesus' claims to be true. So to say this was a legend would be the equivalent to some people nowadays starting up a rumor today, 50 years after the assassination of JFK, that he was able to forgive sins, that he claimed to be God, and that he was raised from the dead. You see, there are far too many people still alive who was alive when it happened, just as it was back when the New Testament was written. Too many people could've contradicted it were it not true. The only option left is that His claims are true, that One is the Lord, the only One who can forgive us, the only One who can save us, the One who died for all of us. (http://www.northave.org/MGM...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What all you said was true. But Jesus was an ordinary human before God cleansed him. He was made of clay, like all other humans, like Mohamed and like Moses. Let's put it this way; Every human has a black dot in there heart. This dot is what makes people do bad things, it makes them sin, etc. God chooses worthy people to become prophets, and he sends two angels down to remove the black dot, making them completely pure. These people are meant to spread the religion. So how can Jesus possibly be God? How is he the Son of God? Why did God choose Jesus and not one of the other prophets? Oh, I would like to ask a question: Why are there 7 Deadly Sins that we must never commit if Jesus had presumingly sacrificed himself for all our sins?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree with all that Rocky said; even prophets, compared to God, are not better than the rest of us. You are mistaken; the black dot you are thinking about is sin, and it is in ALL human beings, even prophets. There has been sin in every human since the day Adam and Eve committed the first sin. We never stop sinning, either, until we go to either Heaven or Hell. God doesn't/didn't remove sins from prophets' hearts; prophets were people who had publically committed themselves to God. That doesn’t mean that they became perfect, because that would go against what God says in His Word; they still sin, but they are convicted by the Holy Spirit and they repent. Another thing that set prophets apart was the fact that God gave them the spiritual gift of prophecy. Spiritual gifts are different from person to person, but prophets were given the gift of proclaiming words of the future that God had given them. Jesus, however, was not born with that “black spot” in h...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

his heart. God did not have to cleanse Him. Jesus IS God; He spoke it in the Bible. Jesus WAS a prophet of things to come in our future, but He was also the Son of God. He was God in the flesh, but His heart was not of this world, and He never sinned. That’s why He was able to be the perfect sacrifice we need in order to be able to spend eternity with God. The 7 Deadly Sins are a Catholic thing that I can’t really explain the concept behind, because I’m not Catholic. God will forgive a person of anything if they are willing to repent and give their heart to Christ. And in response to your first reply… when did I ever say that “other books which say that Jesus is only a prophet, are stupid lying pieces of bullshit”? I don’t recall having said that. I do believe that Muslims, as well as Jews, have the wrong idea; Muslims for the reasons I mentioned above, and Jews in that they do not accept Christ as the Messiah. I believe that Satan will do anything...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

to keep people from getting to Heaven, because he knows where he’s going, and he wants to take down as many as he can. He will lie to people and destroy them in his quest to keep them away from God. I don't think Muslims or Jews are stupid; I think their beliefs are wrong, and that they are ignorant of it. But, I have a great deal of respect for both. They are both people of a very devoted faith.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You know what? Forget it. You have your beliefs and I have mine. I don't believe you, and you don't believe me. This debate isn't gonna stop until someone stops it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yep. And love is an action, not a noun; it's something that's very active. The reason that God is synonymous with love is that God contains three persons, who have always been and who have always been in a loving relationship with each other. This never-starting and never-ending relationship is THE most wholesome representation of love. Also, all of that aside, the love that we feel here on earth just feels so otherwordly, you know? Someone once said (or I read somewhere, or something) that in loving someone, we get a glimpse of heaven.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This is such horseshit. It doesn't even make any sense at all. It's like saying "If you beleive in the Tooth Fairy, you beleive in luck, amirite?"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There's a bible verse or song or something like that. But if you're not christian to begin with then you probably won't believe that statement.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

this is completely true. i said this to someone just the other day.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's a funny analogy. I believe in God. Yeah. We love because He 1st loved us. Even an animal can show love to its kids. You may wonder who taught em. We all feel love about someone we watch on TV, suffering even thosr wounded paupers in the street. Who told us to feel that way? Look at your hands. They have nails to scratch what itches you. They have thumbs to help you in holding. No greater engineer can do that design.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i love god!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

hahaha do you know what's kind of funny? one of my friends is atheist, yet she believes in love... somehow i think you are missing something here...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well I think this be wrong becase I belive in god bit I dont belive in love. i lerned to never trust them men and boys agin first won dumped me fir some northern ho. And he never came back to me not even too apolligize second boy I seen left me. the third cheeted on me. And than I gave up. Don't know what was wrong with none of them but uh word too the wise- do not be belivin in love!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Shelley Gladys): I wasn't talking about just romantic love.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Shelley Gladys): Then those men didn't truly love you. Most likely, they had lust for you. Those that truly love don't do those things, or if they do they apologize and stop doing it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

LOL, love is a chemical reaction that takes place in teh brain.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, love causes a chemical reaction in the brain which triggers physical symptoms.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Physical or emotional attraction causes a chemical reaction in the brain, which then makes you believe that you are in love. But, in reality, it is almost always lust at first.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

which then turns to trust. it evolves.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You can love a family member, friend, or any other person without believing in God. Love is synonymous with God as much as sex is synonymous with love.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't say you couldn't love without believing in God. But the very act of loving is being like God.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you don't already believe in God, then your comment does not apply.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It applies either way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There is no point where we should tollerate intollerance.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I hate the whole idea of "God" because of things like this, because it ge's in the way of what people believe and tries to convert them. You can't say that your not trying to, that's total bull, your trying with your only proof being some verse or saying in a book. It makes no sense! Love is a feeling created by a chemical reaction in the brain, which was NOT CREATED BY GOD. The Big Bang created matter, which eventually created us an our brains, and yes that feeling of God. And no, God did not make the Big Bang, and if your point is that "Well what created the Big Bang" how about this. What created God? If God really existed and wanted everybody to be obedient or whatever, why doesn't he just show himself I'd believe it if I saw it. However I don't believe it because it makes no sense and there's no proof at ALL. The whole bible just sounds like some weirdo made up a story to see how many people would believe him. I'm sorry if I offended you I didn't mean to, these posts just offend me

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I attempt to be tolerate of all beliefs, but this post is offense. Wtf, really.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

AGREED

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well that's just clearly not true..

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's like you're saying that atheists are incapable of love. Get off your fucking high horse. You're much more self-righteous and offensive than any atheist.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Not what I said.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

AGREED..

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How about I just make a post that says "If you beleive in God, then you beleive that the Holocaust was a hoax, amirite?"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The 2. And 3. That you just wrote are completely irrelevant, so I will adress 1. If you don't get how "nothing created everything", I don't get how a magical sky being who was somehow there even when there was nothing created everything, mmmkay? And also, you clearly don't get the theory. Watch the science channel or something, and you will see that there is a lot more to it then your crude summary.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Look, I'm normally very tolerant, but one thing that pisses me off is when people pass off God as a "magical sky being." Don't boil God down to a man in the sky. That's not what he is. He's not a person. He's not in the sky. He's not in this physical world. He's not somewhere up there watching us with eyes like some stupid comic. He is God. Don't make him sound like a dumb concept by using stupid terminology.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I dint know why their be love on the world until I meet my husbaend Jesus. Yes, he shares his name with our holy saveour (cruist) and I thunk that may be the resen that he openud my eyes to love :). Thanks jesus

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The bible says that it is true so why does nobody that it's true if it says it's true???

by Anonymous 13 years ago

WTF Maryann?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I mean, the bible says that god is the truth. So why do people have any doubts about god if the bible clearly says hes real?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Because many people don't believe that the Bible conveys truth...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and where is the back up of that statment, just saying the bible is always correct is the very definition of ignorance

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oooh when i curse AND USE CAPS MY POINT GETS ACROSS MORE CLEARLY, we all have to believe in some thing and we all have our own theories, i fully believe in god and devote my faith to him because that what I choose to believe(:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

so i have one question for you. do choice in what you believe in make what ever it is true?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you dint believe it if the same choice can be it made or if it's not love than you will can't believe in god. Agreed?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I believe in love. I don't believe in your Christian God. what does that make me? a fluke?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The big bang *Theory*? Gravity is also a theory. Being a theory does not make a point less substantiated, it only gives room for improvement of the claim as science and technology develops. So yeah, saying that it can't possibly be true because it's a theory is an ignorant thing to do.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you don't mix religion and science, sooo this is a losing argument for everyone, right? I think so.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lol, it's kinda impossible to keep them separate. Science is a collection of knowledge on how the world works, and no matter how devoted to religion you are, you have to retain some knowledge about the world around you to survive.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

! i know, i get that there's evolution and all but i still keep most parts of my faith like the morals and stuff like that, (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

this argument is dumb, you weren't there so you don't know that's why there are theories, this is a losing argument for everyone,

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Were you there when Jesus was around?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

what kind of question is this? seriously ? -_- and by everyone i mean myself included.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Am I not allowed to ask questions? Apparently not -.- O..kay...but we're not even arguing. It's called debating, hon.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you just asked me if i was around when jesus lived, think next time. -_-

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There is no harm in asking such a question -_-

by Anonymous 13 years ago

riiiiight,

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh and please stop using a comma instead of a full stop.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

sure thing,

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Love has nothing to do with god. Im an atheist but i believe in love.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Love has everything to do with God.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How so? Some people argue that life in general has everything to do with God, which isn't very convincing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not convincing if you don't believe it...because it's a statement and nothing more, not an argument. However, what is convincing is empirical proof. That's really the only concrete evidence that convinces me when my faith ever wavers.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it has nothing to do with god, its a feeling, god isnt part of you relationship. hes not the third wheel, it has nothing to do with him.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Pay attention; I wasn't talking about just romantic love. Love, not "being in love."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

that still has NOTHING to do with god.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

#comment216838

by Anonymous 13 years ago

just because theres heaven doesnt mean theres a god.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I am a Buddhist, I believe in love and compassion to all beings, but I do not believe in god.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I believe I love you for expressing this

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i agree with op. if you believe that love is more than a chemical reaction in your brain, or a glorified version of lust, then (whether you know it or not) you believe in God. otherwise, how can you possible explain it?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

bodily functions?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So, if love is God, and if you feel love you feel God's love, what happens when gays love each other, because you people (sorry about being rude to those who aren't, I'm just meaning the rude one's attacking other people's views more than other people are attacking theirs) have made it clear that those people are not loved by God, yet they feel love, so what are they feeling?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

First of all, as I said earlier, I wasn't talking specifically about romantic love. Secondly, I've explained this in the comments on another post, but...obviously the love is not a sin, in any way. The love that they feel toward each other is completely from God, but since it's of God, Satan does everything he can to twist it into something else, and one of his favorite ways is into a romantic/sexual thing, which is not God's intention. It sounds like ignorance to those who don't believe in God, but it's still the truth. Satan will use the hurt in our lives, in our pasts, to morph something of God's into something not of God's. :[ Another thing is those "Christians" who say that gay people are not loved by God when the opposite is true. If God doesn't love gay people then he might as well not love me either, because I'm probably a worse sinner, but he does anyway. He loves them so much.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

says you. I honestly don't see how one can belief in religions like that. Religion in the opiate of the masses, used by higher powers to promote themselves (mandate of heaven in the past). Man uses religion to promote themselves over other beings. And the bible? It's full of myths and morality tales (to quote Hermonie Granger). As science progresses religion is disproved and men of the church will fight will all they have, but look: we aren't the center of the universe like the bible says, so what else in the bible is wrong? Your theories on "love" because if love isn't emotion then what is it? And if God loves everyone, why does he send people to a place of eternal damnation? Love is not God. Love is Love. A human emotion (but technically it's an emotion used to progress our race).

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and that's your opinion, you can think that people who think this post is true are wrong, that's fine. it still doesn't make you right.(:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i can, and will say the same to you. and that's your opinion, you can think that people who think this post is true are wrong, that's fine. it still doesn't make you right.(:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

as i mentioned in a earlier post, this is a losing argument for both sides, bashing the bible and god is so not a good look /: so that comment doesn't apply to me, but nice try though(:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry. I thought you were a person who knew when to separate religion from emotions. Apparently I was wrong, and you're just another Christian fanatical dumbass. For fuck's sake, people. I believe in love, as it is pretty much embedded into the human mind (unless you're asexual I suppose), but Jesus, I do not believe in any god in any form or way. So sure, cheer on with your Christian buddies, letting them know how "special" they are, and that they're lives will always be better. High-five each other, smile, laugh. Then open your damn eyes and realize you're not talking to anyone, laughing at anything, and that life is one pure piece of shit. I don't believe in any god, and I never will. I don't give a damn if you do or don't, but DON'T mix emotions with religion. "If you believe in love, you believe in God," is such... Shit. Your deity may be love in your religion, but love is NOT your deity. Don't fuck it up.

by Anonymous 13 years ago