Abortion, unless used to save the mothers life, is nothing short of murder, amirite?

If you remove a tapeworm from your stomach, you're doing the same thing as aborting, seeing as they're both parasites surviving off of your insides. The difference is that one is human and one isn't.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

No, the difference is that under most circumstances its entirely your fault that you have a baby inside of you.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Except that a majority of abortions were conceived when birth control failed? This ignores that many women feel compelled by financial reasons/etc to terminate otherwise wanted pregnancies. So they get complained at for thinking about abortion, then they decide against it and get complained at for draining tax dollars via welfare. Brilliant, no?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I really hope you never have children you pig. What if the woman is raped? Is it still her fault then?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Just because the woman is raped doesnt mean the baby has d to suffer for it. ADOPTION!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

no way should a woman have to suffer through 9 months of pregnancy, which ive been told is rather uncomfortable, and have her body ruined for the rest of her life if she doesn't want to, ESPECIALLY if she was raped. But really, any woman should be able to choose regardless of how she got pregnant.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Hence, "under most circumstances." It may shock you, but "most" babies are not, in fact, born because their mothers are raped.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

And for the abortions where birth control failed? (Which is most of them.)

by Anonymous 14 years ago

With that logic, the horrific act of murder would be no different than stepping on ants.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

ABORTION. I hate this topic. -rage,rage- Let people do whatever they want, in the long run it isn't affecting you. Like, you'll feel it in your conscience if someone in China just aborted some cells with the potential to be a human? |:

by Anonymous 14 years ago

completely agree. Thanks for making the point that they have the POTENTIAL to be human. They aren't yet.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Someone in China just aborted some cells with the potential to be human???? quick, call the UN, I am sensing a human rights violation, something must be done

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Lol.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

How long should a woman seeking an abortion be sent to prison? That's conspiracy to commit murder, no?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

9 months

by Anonymous 14 years ago

That's not long enough. It's a human life!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

9 months and a stern warning?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

For conspiracy to commit murder? No.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

a time out and... no dessert

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It is a womans choice. People need to respect that. Assuming the abortion is done correctly, the embryo is too young to feel pain or have intelligent thought. What if a woman is raped. Should she be expected to have the child?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

A baby is a blessing, not a parasite, for one. And two, it's not a womans disicion to take away a life. If you don't want a baby, don't have sex.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

If you never wanted a kid, then it's not as much of a blessing, eh?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

And it's not your decision what a woman does with her uterus. Where is the line drawn? Are we going to say who does and who doesn't deserve chemo next? Reserve the machines for those who are young and have a potential use, they're worth more.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you don't want a kid, then why are you having sex? And if a women is using her uterus to kill somebody, it's our responsibility to stand up for that human being inside her. I understand "the woman should have a choice" and all that, but who's going to stand up for the babies who can't speak up for themselves?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That got a little personal there. No, I'm not having sex, jackass, and no, I don't want a kid. Just because I'm pro choice doesn't mean I've had an abortion, or even would get one myself. And the woman isn't using her uterus to kill somebody. A fetus at almost any point is too underdeveloped to be considered a person. If you want to stand up for kids who can't stand up for themselves, why are you targeting abortion? Domestic abuse is more damaging to an already-living kid.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Rhetorical question. And sorry if I got a little personal, but it's hard not to in this subject, right? Acutally, I would stand up for abused kids anyday, and I do. The thing is, abortion is more common, and it's thought of as an "easy-way out." But what the mother doesn't realize after you've had an abortion is: you get a death certificate, but not a birth certificate. Most women keep track of the day their child would have born, but didn't get the chance. Most women feel the pain of having a dead child every day of their lives. So, the abortion is hard not only on the child, but on the mother too.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Because sex is really great.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If you ban abortion, you're giving rights to a pack of cells completely lacking thoughts and feelings and ability, and taking them away from women who are already human and can feel, think, and function. Think about it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

that claim has little oomph on pro- life supporters who believe that a fetus IS human already,

by Anonymous 13 years ago

YEAH?? Because that "sack of cells" will be a beautiful baby in 9 months. That "sack of cells" is a REAL BABY, growing!! www. silentday. org to register for the 2010 Day of Life. Over 50,000,000 innocent lives have been silenced.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

At only eight weeks a fetus has developed nerves and can feel pain. They also have fingernails apparently.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You can't get an abortion after the second trimester.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

a baby is not a parasite.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I support abortion. For those who are saying that woman who have a "rape baby" should go into adoption isn't right. What if the woman isn't ready to carry a human being or push a human being out of her body? What if it was a 13 year old girl? Why should she not have the chance to get let go of what she can't handle. Now for those woman who go and try to have a baby or not use protection, they are the ones who should give up their baby to someone who wants it, not kill it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When you're young, like up to 14, you don't get it. You don't know how to control hormones, unless you have expectations for yourself. Girls that young should be allowed, with a parent/legal guardian in the clinic as the child is having the procedure done. Rape/incest victims should have the option of abortion. For all of you that say, "Why doesn't she put it up for adoption?', that's not simple. Not only does the victim have to deal with the traumatizing event, she'd have to look at her abdomen and be forced to remember that time. Deal with hurtful whispers. Deal with pitying looks. Be forced to give up for lifestyle for nearly a year. It could put her out of school and her job. I've never been pregnant, but from what I've seen and learned, it causes a lot of emotional and physical pain. The unborn children don't even have fully developed brains until what? 16 weeks? You need a brain to think and feel. Without that, you're just a bunch of unfeeling cells.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What about when women look at their stomachs every day and remember having a living, breathing baby removed from them, and then killed? To me, that seems worse than having it living, most likely happy, in a home, with a family. At 10 weeks, a baby has ten fingers, ten toes, ten fingernails and toenails, a beating heart, and a working brain. At two months, it can suck it's thumb, and kick around. What's the difference between that and a newborn baby? Nothing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Before it has a functioning brain, it's just some specialized cells. Unfeeling. Unthinking. Unmoving. By ten weeks, you would know you're preggers. By ten weeks, you should have a decision. It's a HUGE decision. I believe that once the fetus can respond to stimuli, no one should be allowed to have an abortion. And about the whole "being killed" statement, you can't kill something that isn't alive. Children aren't "alive" until they are born.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The difference is a newborn baby can live without the mother's nutrients, at 10 weeks if you have that baby it will die automatically because it can't breathe oxygen yet and it can't survive on breast milk or formula. A baby cannot do that until at least the 5-6 month mark, otherwise it will die or be kept in ICU for the remainder of it's life (because it will not survive long enough to live through adulthood) I believe that if it is using the mother's body to be able to "live" it should be up to the mother to decide if she wants to allow that or not. So after the 6th month mark I would consider that to be a fully functioning baby and no abortion should be allowed (and that's why 3rd trimester abortions are not allowed even by current standards)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So just because it can't live wihout us, means it's our decision whether it lives or dies? What if you had a friend who had no family at all, no job, and no means of living on his/her own? Does that mean you had the power to decide whether they live or die? Shouldn't that mean we try harder to protect it, because it can't be protected without us? And I guess the whole big debate is when the baby is actually a baby or not. But the truth is, the baby is a human being, from conception forward. "I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations." Jeremiah 1:5 Whether or not the baby has a functioning brain, it's still a person. And only God should have the power to take that away.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So just because it can't live wihout us, means it's our decision whether it lives or dies? What if you had a friend who had no family at all, no job, and no means of living on his/her own? Does that mean you had the power to decide whether they live or die? Shouldn't that mean we try harder to protect it, because it can't be protected without us? And I guess the whole big debate is when the baby is actually a baby or not. But the truth is, the baby is a human being, from conception forward. "I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations." Jeremiah 1:5 Whether or not the baby has a functioning brain, it's still a person. And only God should have the power to take that away.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You completely misunderstood my point, My homeless jobless friend can still LIVE WITHOUT ME. It can breathe without me, it doesn't need to feed off my own nutrients to survive, etc. And your whole point is based on religion which you to stay OUT of government. There is not supposed to be any laws made based on any religious belief, so while you may not condone it yourself it should still be allowed into law.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Our country was founded on religion. And religious freedom is part of the Bill of Rights. But I don't see 'it's okay to kill people, even if they depend on you to live,' anywhere in there.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Our country was mainly founded because British citizens didn't want to deal with the laws that the King was proposing at the time, they wanted Independence which is what freedom of choice is all about. And also it was founded on the freedom to believe what we want, whether that's Christianity, Catholicism, etc etc. And there's proof showing that most of the founding fathers were deists, meaning that most did believe in a higher power but not what we consider the God that is depicted in Christianity..and there's some evidence pointing that a few may have even been atheists by today's standards. And also, it depends on your definition of what a person is, many people and scientists believe its nothing but cells until it's able to live off it's own nutrients without resorting to suctioning off the nutrients from inside the womb like a parasite. But regardless, it's my body and I'll do whatever i want to do with it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I can't think of a common religion in America at the moment that believes that it's okay to kill a human person legally. I still don't see that in the Constitution, regardless what this country was found on.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it is okay to kill a human being legally, it's another topic other than abortion but in cases it's legal. And also the government doesn't make laws based on religion so stop bringing it up, that's your own belief, so keep it to yourself and stop trying to bring it into the government. If religious people had their ways, half the laws we have now would never have been made, so thank my lucky stars our founding fathers were smart enough to say separation of church and state on the Constitution

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I brought it up once, you're the one who keeps bringing it up. And just because it's LEGAL, doesn't make it RIGHT.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

amen to that. In Germany, the Holocaust was legal, but was that right?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ahhhh, another Christian. :) Just asking, have you ever participated in the Day of Silence? If not, go to www. silentday. org. Spread the word on other abortion posts!!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Fact of the matter is, Abortion to a certain point (and in certain circumstances past said point) IS LEGAL in the United States. I can't speak for other countries. You can whine and cry and protest all you want, but it will not stop a determined mother from getting one. Suck it up and deal with it. Even if it was illegal (and there are historic facts to prove this point) women would still find a way to have an abortion. Unsafe ways that would kill not just the cells, but the mother as well. Which is better, saving a clump of cells, or saving a fully functioning, already productive member of society? Seriously people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Which aborted baby would have been the next president? What if a baby, if not aborted, had discovered the cure for cancer? Come up with a revolutionary product? Saved someone's life? The thing is, it's a baby WITH potential, not a potential baby.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Anybody can become president, and anybody can cure cancer. If it's not one person becoming president it's another, and if it's not one scientist curing a disease it's another. If it's not one person protesting rights it's another. One person can change the world...but it can be any person, it's not designated to a certain baby.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well what if an aborted baby WAS that person to cure cancer?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And how do you know they wouldn't just end up a homeless fool breaking into your house and raping your children and drinking their blood for sustenance? See, two can play that game. There are billions of people in this world, and there's bound to be more than one person out of all of them to find the cure for cancer.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not just saying that a baby aborted could have found the cure for the disease. Even if it didn't, it still would be important. Can you answer this question for me? If you saw a child being abused, would you try and stand up for them?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A child has been BORN it is not a pile of cells. It can live without the sustenance of the womb. Your point has no meaning.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just because it's not out of it's mother's womb, doesn't mean it's not a LIVING human being. Technically, you're just a pile of cells. I'm just a pile of cells. Doesn't mean I'm not a human. And it still has the same meaning as a living human child being abused. they're both being harmed, and they both can't stand up for themselves.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Tell me this, if you had something inside of you that was eating your food, sucking your nutrients would you allow it to stay inside of you? Probably not because that's the definition of a parasite...but hey if people call it a baby then everything's changed. Truth is, until it's born it's not fully alive...or do you call those that die inside the womb alive too? And we are not just pile of cells, you know nothing about biology to say that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, obviously, YOUR mother allowed a 'parasite' to stay inside of her. Because you're here. It's funny how everyone who is pro-abortion is alive. And you don't know anything about people, if you think a baby's just a ball of cells. If you're using that logic, then so are adults. and everyone else, for that matter.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wouldn't have cared if my mother aborted me, so there goes that argument. And I'm talking about fetuses before they're fully functional (which is around 4-6 months) before then they're basically nothing but cells. Babies that are fully developed and born are more than fetuses.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You wouldn't have been able to care, because you would have never had the chance to live. See, that's the thing. Regardless of when the baby becomes an actual human being, even if it's not at a certain point, if you're having an abortion, you're denying it the power to be able to live. You're denying it the power to able to think, and feel, and laugh, and love, and live, and learn. You're denying it the power to be able to have a first day of school, and have a first date, and go to the prom for the first time. Everything you've experience, that aborted baby won't be able too.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's the MOTHERS choice if she decides she wants to allow that in the end. And if she doesnt, then it should be okay. Who are we to force a women to go through 9 months of pregnancy, and pay for hospital bills and prenatal care, and then either cut her open or force her to pop it out her vagina?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Who are we to take away an innocent baby's chance to live?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And I would hardly call a MOTHER someone who kills their own baby.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I dont know....the same person who has to shove one out? A baby isn't even functional until the 6th month mark. So until then you should be able to abort it, and honestly it doesn't even come down to what you believe is right or wrong, because if you make it illegal people will find the ways to get it done. And I'd rather have women getting it done by professional doctors than wire hangers or getting someone to beat them in the stomach, etc. Unless of course, you'd rather have people who are already alive and functioning die to preserve something that can't even live without them for another 9 months?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If people have to resort to getting beat up or using wire hangers, rather than just having the baby or putting it up for adoption, then that's pretty sad.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Plus, if people are gonna resort to that, wouldn't it be better just to not have sex in the first place, since they're obviously not ready to have a baby?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Unfortunately there has been plenty of cases where it has happened, and yes I do agree it's sad. I wish that there wasn't such a negative stigma of getting abortions then perhaps it wouldn't come to that. And yes i do agree you shouldn't have sex until you're fully ready for the consequences, just because I agree with abortion doesn't mean I would like for everybody to just go around having sex all the time...but if you really think you can stop anybody from having sex then you are sorely mistaken.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I know, I can't stop people from having sex, or having abortions, but if you could just read this.. When the time comes as it surely will, when we face that awesome moment, the final judgment, I’ve often thought that it is a terrible moment of loneliness. You have no advocates, you are there alone standing before God - and a terror will rip through your soul like nothing you can imagine. But I really think that those in the pro-life movement will not be alone. I think there will be a chorus of voices that have never been heard in this world but are heard beautifully and clearly in the next world - and they will plead for everyone who has been in this movement. They will say to God, ‘Spare him because he loved us,’ - and God will look at you and say not, ‘Did you succeed?’ but ‘Did you try?’ -Rep. Henry Hyde I'm just trying to convince people that abortion's wrong, and I may not succeed, but I'm trying

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes, but then that's based only on your religion, people who are agnostic, atheists, or an entirely different religion will not care about that point. I'm not trying to bash it, I'm just saying you can think what you want but when it comes to law making or trying to convert people's opinions based solely on religion...unless they are christian themselves you will most likely fail at your goal. Oh and also a little fyi that Representative you quoted confessed to having an affair with another man's married wife, while he was married himself. And he should have been tossed from Congress if he was making laws based on religious belief also...I really dislike that because so many people aren't christians so why are we having laws where we are forced to live like them?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, then if not on religion, how about the fact that THEY were given the chance to live, but the millions of aborted babies WEREN'T? And I never said that he was perfect, I just think the point he was trying to make when he said that was right.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not even talking about abortion at that point, I was just saying there are too many laws based on religion and half the arguments made over anything involves scripture quotes. And his point again is only valid if you're Christian.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Really? If "anyone" can cure cancer, why haven't they yet?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What if the aborted baby became the next Hitler? Or became a rapist? That argument isn't a very good one because every baby has the potential to do anything. It's also the same as this situation: A woman has two kids, and has decided to go on birth control because she doesn't want anymore children. She tells this to a friend, and the friend says, "Oh, don't do that! Your next child could find the cure for cancer!"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Out of curiosity, have any of you seen an aborted fetus? If it's more than say, a month and a half old, it doesn't just look like a bundle of cells, it looks like a tiny baby. That's because it is human, it can feel pain. I had to research abortion, and there's a huge misconception that the baby is just cells when it is aborted, but it is not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

http://www.pregnancy.org/fetaldevelopment/week-six I don't see a baby. I see a jelly bean

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Only that "jelly bean" is a functioning human being.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Not yet.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A functioning human being? Someone needs to go back to science class. That baby's lungs aren't 1/8 of the way developed.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

exactly.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If abortion becomes illegal, woman will go to back ally doctors and kill themselves an the baby trying to have an abortion, or just try it themselves and kill themselves. Abortion will happen either way, so lets just SAVE LIVES by keeping it legal.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Everyone is saying how you chose this situation. Google how many woman are raped every year. If you were raped at 12 years old would you want it to be illegal to get rid of that child. Woman who get abortions do not take it lightly. But they should be able to make the decision.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

9 year old Jana Torres was raped by her 36 year old father. she became pregnant with twins, do you really think that she should be forced to keep the babies? (this isnt real, just an example)

by Anonymous 12 years ago

This is a very good video about this topic. It compares WWII to the issue of abortion. This video presents this subject in a new way. It gives you some things to think about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGeADhqRxt8

by Anonymous 12 years ago