it when you kill an animal stuff its head and scare little children with it
by Anonymous11 years ago
"And scare little children with it"?
by Anonymous11 years ago
thats a bonus
by Anonymous11 years ago
You really should have explained why, OP.
by Anonymous11 years ago
To me it seems as wrong as necrophilia. Dead bodies just shouldn't be played around with.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I'd agree with the first part, but not the second part.
Dead bodies are inanimate objects.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Hey I want to rape you. Oh wait you have feelings and you don't want it? Okay, now I've shot you and NOW it's okay to rape you. Then I'll go play volleyball with your head that I'll chop off, because, who cares -- it's not a person, amirite?
And then I'll play fetch with my dog using one of your arms.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I didn't say murder was okay.
But if I was dead and you wanted to rape and play volleyball with my corpse then that's absolutely fine, I encourage it in fact, if someone was a necrophile, I'd much much rather they had my already dead body to do with as they pleased than killed someone else to rape because my body was inaccessible.
by Anonymous11 years ago
You're making it sound like being a donor.
I'm not talking about that though.
You were hit by a car on accident, and the driver picked you up (no one was around) and used this as an opportunity to get laid. I mean, free sex, who wouldn't want that? And then he fucking chops off your hands, and uses them to masturbate. Then he mounts your head (giving it first a funny expression with your tongue sticking out first) on his wall and shows it to every visitor to his house.
You didn't give permission, you would't //want// random things to be done to you. That is, if you're normal of course...
A random cat had no choice to be used as a fucking piece of cloth to make a toy. And that's wrong. Allowing necrophilia like signing a donor card would be alright I guess, but not //this//.
A dead body isn't //just// a thing, like a couch. It used to have a person in there. It should at the very least be respected.
by Anonymous11 years ago
This is a difference of opinion, I don't view dead bodies the same as you do, so we won't get anywhere with this.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Yeah, an opinion like this can't be argued. I just think since the dead deserve respect (like how it's wrong to speak ill of the dead, e.g. Michael Jackson was so "great" and "it's such a shame"), then their bodies should be respected too. Sounds logical to me.
by Anonymous11 years ago
That argument aside, I would argue that stuffing an animal for leisure is better than actively killing them to make 'trendy' clothes.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Also it's better than the Holocaust. Let's just randomly switch to naming things that are worse than a bad thing.
by Anonymous11 years ago
My one was obviously related
by Anonymous11 years ago
Okay, how about "and stuffing animals is better than stuffing real humans so that makes it okay." Or what about "but stuffing animals is a lot better than EATING pets who have died, so, it's okay."
Those are relevant.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Right but of the things we said it was better than, which one is completely socially acceptable.
Now you're just being stupid for the sake of arguing.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Oh no, I really don't want to continue this argument. You just made an irrelevant point to the initial argument and to the post.
Bye now.
by Anonymous11 years ago
are you a vegetarian?
by Anonymous11 years ago
Nope. Are you?
And who are you anyway?
by Anonymous11 years ago
did that dead cow give you permission to eat its meat?
by Anonymous11 years ago
Right, let's compare this to eating meat.
Lions eat zebras and whatnot, and that's natural and normal. They don't skin them before eating, and use them as costumes for a costume party. They don't bite off their heads to use as soccer balls or as wall decorations. They eat them. Because eating animals is what's meant to happen. Playing around with their dead bodies is just wrong.
by Anonymous11 years ago
do you like your shoes?
by Anonymous11 years ago
My shoes aren't made of animals, thanks.
by Anonymous11 years ago
theres no leather what so ever on your shoes?
by Anonymous11 years ago
Yeah you can stop trying to be clever, I'm against making shoes from animals too. I'm against making shoes from HUMANS too, and anything that once had eyes and could breathe. You won't convince me to think taxidermy is okay.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Humans are omnivores, lions are not, lions //need// to eat zebras to live, humans do not.
Would you feel any less upset if someone killed one of your loved ones to eat than if they'd done it to play with?
by Anonymous11 years ago
That doesn't make eating meat unnatural. I only used the lion example because all animals do it, and humans are a shitty example of an animal.
And again I'm not arguing about murder at all, I'm talking about what you do with the dead body. If I'm dead, a lion can eat me. But a human can't tear off my arm and use it as a baseball bat. Eating meat is fine, playing with dead things isn't. That's all I'm saying.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Not exactly, "dead" and "inanimate" are two different forms of existence.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Please explain the difference.
and please do not use the words "used to be alive" because the same is true of most objects considered inanimate.
by Anonymous11 years ago
It's simple, there are three forms of existence, alive, dead, and inanimate, everything falls into one and only one of those categories. Inanimate things are mostly nonorganic, as opposed to dead things. They're pretty much the same in terms of characteristics, but it would still be wrong to call a dead thing inanimate.
by Anonymous11 years ago
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/animate
Would you say that any of those definitions befit a dead body?
by Anonymous11 years ago
I think you misunderstand. Though some sources will say different, animate and inanimate are not antonyms. Animate simply means living, which a carcass is obviously not, but that doesn't make it inanimate. And according to your source, something inanimate does "Not have the qualities associated with active, living organisms." Considering that dead things are still made up of cells and carry genetic material, they still have qualities of living things.
by Anonymous11 years ago
The word inanimate was made by taking the word animate, and putting an "in" in front, that pretty much defines what it means to be antonymous.
Are you suggesting that something can be animate and inanimate at the same time?
by Anonymous11 years ago
No, if you paying attention to what I said at all you would know that. Animate means living. I said everything is either living, dead, or inanimate, and can only be one. And inanimate was originally an antonym for animate, but its meaning has changed greatly and is very different in both science and philosophy.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I agree that it's kinda weird that people wanna keep dead animals around their houses as trophies, but I don't think the time or money should be wasted making it illegal.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Yeah, maybe that's too much. That's why I just said I think it's wrong.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I don't see what's wrong with taxidermy. Hunting you could make a case for I suppose, but what's so bad about what you do with something that's already dead?
by Anonymous11 years ago
Think of what would happen to Chuck Testa!
by Anonymous11 years ago
If I kill something im proud of, I will have it stuffed. It's a trophy.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Coming from North Dakota, I see that all of the time, and I don't really care. And to me, animals are on a different level than humans, so it doesn't matter.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Killing for taxidermy should be illegal, but using an already dead animal is fine. Also, some people want to preserve thier pets.
by Anonymous11 years ago
What? If I find a deer and say "hey I'm gonna take this to the taxidermist" that would be pointless. The deer wouldn't be as fresh as when you shoot it. When you shoot it yourself you take it to a cooler or leave it in an ice chest filled with ice. If you shoot the deer then it has meaning like you shot with your kid or something but just finding it on the road the deer would be rotted and nasty and meaningless. Sorry to jump you but this subject just pisses me off a lot.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Also I just looked at your profile for shits and giggles and I would like to point out that Google owns android not Microsoft.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I said they have, not own. Samsung also has Android, as in they have devices that run Android.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I mean if for some reason you just want a dee head in your house. Or if you're hunting to cull the population, or to eat the meat and keep the skin or for sport(which is questionable) then you can go to the taxidermist. It's not ok to hunt specifically for taxidermy.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I hunt a lot and the reason most people I know go to taxidermists (myself included) is for the meat and bragging rights for the head. It's pretty much bragging rights over all.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I said ti's fine to go to a taxidermist because you go hunting. It's not ok to go hunting because you want to go to the taxidermist.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Would those people want tobe "preserved"?
by Anonymous11 years ago
Would those people want tobe "preserved"?
by Anonymous11 years ago
Natural History Museums wouldn't be nearly as fun.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I agree. Not only do the poor bastards get shot and killed, usually for fun, they also get put on display. But before that, hunting (as a sport or a leisurely activity) should be criminalized. That's because if you want to take the stance that animal bodies should be given the same respect as human bodies, you must also assert that animal lives be treated the same as human lives.
by Anonymous11 years ago
A lot of taxidermists work with animals that are found dead like roadkill.
by Anonymous11 years ago
I know that. But if you go and tell people that they can't road kill because a dead body must be respected, their answer would include that it's okay to hunt them, why should something as harmless as taxidermy be prohibited.
by Anonymous11 years ago
What if somebody's treasured pet of many years who was well loved and cared for suddenly passes away and they wish to visit a taxidermist? I'm not agreeing one way or the other - just curious as to your thoughts.
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