I thought it was made up for that south park episode... How would anyone be ok with that?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Like I said, society is going downhill. It's sad.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

hahah what the fuckk who would join that? i thot that was stupid even for southpark woww

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wait - NAMBLA wasn't just made up for South Park? WTF?!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

NOPE!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I just looked it up and although you're right that it's fucked up that they even exist, they're definetley not thriving.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, last I knew they were doing quite well. Maybe I need better info. I don't know.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

According to Wikipedia, they have been falling apart for years. They were regularly raided by the police, they were isolated and weren't given any support, and never got much more then 1,000 members. So now they don't hold national meetings and basically have a P.O box as their headquarters. That's definetley a good thing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, that's good. They shouldn't have been allowed to form in the first place.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's twice, from a computer, that you've misspelled "definitely." And, since you agree with gay marriage, why would you be opposing this? It's not like it's rape, and it's not like the 14 or 15 year old cannot think for himself. It's love! (Sarcasm)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

14 year olds and even 16 year olds like me do not think clearly when it comes to sex and "love" (I'm skeptical that anyone as young as us can really be in love). Besides, the line has to be drawn somewhere, and the chosen age is 18.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And how does that concern you? They can mess up their own lives; and it won't affect you. You can't oppose this! It's true love! They're both consenting!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

As I clearly stated above, I don't think that teenagers can really give consent. Our minds are clouded by hormones and however smart we may think we are, we're still pretty naive. After 18, people should be allowed to marry whoever they want, as long as it's another adult HUMAN. No more duck bullshit.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But it still doesn't affect you, which is pro-homo's fallback in the gay debate. Why do you even care? It's not like it affects you, or anyone, for that's what they want. (Note to people unable to come to logical conclusions: I don't support this, but I am at least able to hold up my beliefs.)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's not anyone's fallback. What you are twisting out of context is the beleif that people should be able to do whatever they want as long as they aren't putting anybody else at risk of injury/death or infringing on the rights of others. In this scenario, the older man is infringing on the rights of that 14 year old boy. This is pretty much the same argument that you lost a couple days ago and I'm not going to waste anymore time on you. But as usual, you're going to make sure that you are the last to comment so that you can feel like you won, even though you didn't. Have fun buring Qur'an's or whatever.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ah, so basically you're saying that whoever has the worst point, and stops replying wins? No, literally they say that it doesn't affect me, so why do I care? Why DO you care? You never answered. It doesn't affect you in the least.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Homosexual marriage is different from this because the adult preys on the child's naiveness in order to obtain sexual gratification. In most cases the child is somehow emotionally deprived and only "consents" in order to fill that void. In this situation the child cannot make a sound decision because their judgment is impaired. Furthermore, younger children and adolescents often cannot recognize the full implications and future consequences of their present actions, and therefore cannot truly consent, because that part of their brain is not yet fully developed, this is why it is considered rape(statutory). So when you consider all the variables homosexual marriage and what NAMBLA advocates are not equivalent, therefore it is perfectly logical to support the former and not the latter.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So, only teens do this, and not anyone over eighteen? Zero teens are level headed, and magically at eighteen everyone becomes logical and can think straight? Riiight, well forgive me for not believing in that lousy display of evidence.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, but at least adults are physically capable of considering the consequences. Like I said, the part of the brain involved in foresight and decision making is not yet fully formed in adolescents. Eighteen is the age that was chosen because it is generally when the body has become fully developed. Some people develop faster, but those aren't usually the one's who would be in this situation. Lack of decision making capabilities is the same reason why minors aren't allow to marry(eachother) without the consent of their legal guardians.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

These are some good points, and Imma let you finish, but I still don't understand why you care. It doesn't affect you! (Do you realize what I'm doing? I'm mocking what you guys' debates are against my arguments. And you see how impossible it is to refute "Why do you care!? Wah it doesn't affect you. Go whine somewhere else." Understand?)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The argument against this is the same argument(as I understand it) that many conservatives make when protesting against keeping abortion legal. Even though they would not be personally affected because they wouldn't do it given the choice. We as human beings have a social obligation to protect those who cannot protect themselves.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

amen to that! As human being, ppl that can't fight for their own rights need someone to fight for them. Also, if one persons rights are taken away, what's to stop them from taking anothers, and anothers? Nothing. And to add to this argument, while I'm sure at 18, not everyone will make the intelligent decision in their situation, but we have to draw the line somewhere, and 18 is the normal fully developmental point of the brain. Past that, its their responsibility, not ours.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, I've found that to be the opposite case. The liberals ask why it matters, and why they are affected. Okay, then why do we care about murder? If the killer promises not to kill you, it's okay to hang with him. The murders don't affect you as long as you don't know them. You could validate anything with that point. It doesn't matter whether it affects me or not, that is a baby you're killing, and I'm pretty sure it affects him.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm a little confused as to what you're argument is. All you did was restate the point that I already made.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This is kind of random but, I think it funny that we're debating on a post that neither of us actually voted on.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What's Nambla?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Nambla&sa=X&ei=Rq2STIuzDIKKlwf0vO2nCg&ved=0CBIQkAE I looked it up. That's messed up!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

ew..

by Anonymous 13 years ago

so...its a pedo club? ewwwww pedo bear must be like their mascot lol

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I thought it was made up by south park,but that's just fucked up...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

North American man boy love association or north American Marlon Brando look alikes

by Anonymous 13 years ago

During the Renaissance, there used to be way more of this. It's not like this is something new. http://igfculturewatch.com/1998/05/28/homosexuality-in-renaissance-florence/

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I hadn't heard of it before this post. That's completely disgusting.

by Anonymous 13 years ago