If I were to put a seed in some dirt, no one would call it a plant. This applies to embryos and humans too, amirite?

Uh oh, this is gonna get ugly real quick!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm too tired to argue. Pre-Calculus homework gave me a headache.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

my pre-calc homework is uber easy. it's just like algebra 2 last year. apush homework is giving me a headache however. totally off topic, but i don't care

by Anonymous 13 years ago

AP hw sucks

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i finished my apush homework 2 hours ago and been studying for ap bio test tommorow, or should i say today, since its 12:03....ap hw does suck.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm a sophomore, and my teacher is really bad at explaining stuff, and it's new stuff, not algebra 2.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm a freshman. My 8th grade algebra 2 teacher was really good though.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How are you a freshman in pre-cal? We aren't even allowed to be three years ahead of level. Also, how are you in AP US? We take that Junior year here.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Great analogy.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

maybe it'll sprout roots and grow? lol

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, because plants regularly eat humans, and not the other way around. Plants also grow up with unlimited potential, not restricted to the same spot every year. Plants, in a way, are identical to humans, and have emotions and are capable of complex thought!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

actually they have nerves, not emotions, there is a huge difference

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was being sarcastic. Plants cannot feel pain, or fight to live. Or move. There is a huge difference, thus I voted down.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well actually broccoli can feel pain

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Bahahaha! Good one. That mad me laugh. Rich stuff. Does it scream in pain while they boil it? Or does it cry? It doesn't feel pain. That is nonsense. Seriously. You have to have a brain to comprehend pain, and there is no point of pain unless you can do something about it. Good one.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

glad to see you know how to respond to a joke....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yours wasn't a joke. You actually thought it felt pain. You don't say "well actually..." if it is a joke.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it's called sarcasm everyone knows that the broccoli thing is bs

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Then why did you say it was true? That wasn't sarcasm.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Plants don't actually have nerves, otherwise they would feel pain and be able to move freely, that's the point of having nerves. It's not the same because the seed isn't yet alive but if something has a heartbeat then most of us consider that alive; you do at least for someone who's already born so why be double-standard?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it's just an analogy...chill your tits!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wow that phrase is amazing! I just thought I should point out plants don't have a central nervous system, I guess I was wrong when I thought that was common knowledge.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When did I say that plants are equal to humans?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You didn't "say" it; it was implied. You compared an embryo (human) to a seed (plant).

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's an analogy. Two things don't have to be equal to be analogous; they just have to represent the same idea. It's kind of like how in geometry, two polygons are similar if they are the same shape, but not necissarily (don't care if I spelled that wrong) the same size.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No it's not like that at all. Those polygons are still rectangles or whatever. They still "do" the same thing. People don't act like plants. Well, at Least where I'm from.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'll spell it out for you since you seem to not understand the basic principles of an analogy. Seed=Sperm cell; Dirt=Egg cell; Plant=Human. It doesn't matter how a plant and human act differently because in this analogy the only thing about the plant being compared to a human is the fact that they are both fully developed organisms. For the intent of the analogy, any other characteristics about them are irrelevant.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You really don't know the first thing about biology, do you. Dirt isn't the egg cell. The seed is already the "embryo" in the analogy. The dirt would be the mother's body. Honestly, at least be able to explain it! The analogy obviously alludes to abortion. If you deny it, then you are a liar, and this post is doubly crap.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually this is about stem cell research, not abortion because by the time someone finds out that they're pregnant, it is a fetus and not an embryo. And because sperm can be referred to as a man's "seed", there is nothing wrong with the analogy. And besides, even if you interpret it your way, my point still stands. A seed in dirt isn't a plant and an embryo inside a woman or in a lab isn't a human.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It is a human. But that is almost irrelevant. This is implying that embryo's aren't human. They are alive. Just as plants, only the potential is what matters.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes, they are alive, but so are all of the other cells in your body. The only thing that makes an embryo different is that it has the potential to become a human if everything goes correctly for hundreds of days. If you look up the definition for human, you won't see "a sperm cell combined with an egg cell". If we called thing by what they could become, then I could say that I'm an astronaught because I have the potential to become one. Tell me how it is that you think that an embryo is the same thing as a human.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That is actually a really good argument. But, don't we need to consult the baby before we kill it? It is alive from practically conception. Just like the plant is alive once the tiny tiny root sprouts from the seed. I'll call you an astroNAUT if it makes you feel better. The baby is alive.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In the analogy, a seed with roots sprouting out of it would represent a partially developed fetus. Now we are getting into abortion, but that wouldn't really fit into this because you can uproot a plant no matter how developed it is and put it back in the ground without any problem. The same can't be said for humans. I'm satisfied that you've agreed that an embryo is not a person, and I'll leave it at that for today. And my bad about the naught thing. That's just one of those mistakes that I always tend to make even though I know it's incorrect.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Nah, I just enjoy correcting grammar; it doesn't really bother me too much. (Disregard that last statement.) I didn't agree that the embryo isn't a person. It is a human. I still think that killing it is murder. It's a human (potentially.) Killing it would be like killing it when it is full-grown, wouldn't you agree? It will be a "full human", given 5 months or whatever. It's still alive. It's not like it isn't living. It's not like at an embryonic stage it is a completely different creature. I think it's a human from the moment it starts living. Conception.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's a pretty good way to put it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, it isn't, because if we're talking in human terms the seed would be a sperm. I don't think anybody cares where the hell sperm goes, otherwise the tissue industry would be sued for murder.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wow, major analogy fail.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

CONTROVERSY :O

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But last time i checked, you can't get arrested for killing a fully grown plant as opposed to a fully grown human. Plants are obviously not as valued as human beings

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thats how you use an analogy.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not gonna bring my religion into this, but I call a seed a plant before it goes in the ground. What else would it be? A fungus?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

... a seed?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

what the fuck...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

the girls on this site must not have realize yet that they are calling there vaginas dirt

by Anonymous 13 years ago

firstly. Christ you're an ass secondly. that's what sarcasm is thirdly. I have shit do do and I'm not wasting anymore time with this

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'd call it a plant. Just sayin'.

by Anonymous 13 years ago