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If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, amirite?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Yes! Thank you!
by Anonymous13 years ago
It's not like criminals are going to go, "Oh! Guns are illegal, well that stops my plans!" Pssht, get real.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I'm pretty sure the police will still have guns.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Australian gun laws are much stricter than those in the US, and guns are far harder to obtain. I, for one, don't know a single person who owns a gun.
The US has 294 times the Australian firearm homicide rate, 104 times the general firearm death rate, yet only 14.3 times the population.
I doubt these facts are a coincidence.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Yes, get rid of guns, which saved my entire family's life 2 times. Leave people defencless.
by Anonymous13 years ago
They saved your family, so? What about all the other families that were destroyed by someone who had a gun? I bet families destroyed by guns are in a much greater number then families saved by them.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Are you honestly saying we should outlaw guns? I can't tell.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Yes, every night I watch the news, and nearly every night there is a story about a homicide or a shooting. Many of these could be prevented if guns had been outlawed. Guns aren't terribly difficult to get if you're not a criminal. People like the police and other law enforcement should have them for protection, but if we put a gun in the hands of the populace, things will go wrong. Someone who owns a gun may get angry at someone, they will get their gun and shoot them instead of reason things out with words. And you might say that not all people would do that, and I know that, not every person would. But for all the families that have lost someone due to a shooting, I believe that guns should be restricted. The number of people lost is far greater than the number of people saved.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Where do you live, Juarez?
How many of the people who comit murder were responsible people who got their guns legally and got their CHL and just decided one day "I'm going to go kill someone" I would wager it's a very small percentage. Most people who comit murder already are criminals who obtained their firearms illegally.
by Anonymous13 years ago
People with illegal guns are a separate issue. But there is also the case of insane people having access to a sane person's gun, perhaps a friend. Any person that insane person kills could still be alive if guns were restricted.
And gun stores will sell to anyone who passes a background check. Background checks can't measure mental stability or home life.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Alright let's just get rid of the 2nd amendment. And while we're at it let's get the 1st and 3rd, oh and look! It's not America anymore it's a dictatorship.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Since when is wanting to help save lives making America a dictatorship?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Since yahoos like you want to GO AGAINST THE FREAIN' CONSTITUTION AND TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS!
by Anonymous13 years ago
The second amendment talks about a MILITIA, not the commonfolk. The militia would equate to the police, the people who should have guns.
by Anonymous13 years ago
No, cops are part of the government. militia aren't. I'm so glad you're not a supreme court justice. You would probabaly say that the 1st amendment really meant that the goverment must provide all it's citizens with purple cool-ade on the second Tuesday and Thursday of each month.
by Anonymous13 years ago
The second amendment still doesn't talk about every single person in the commonfolk has the right to a gun.
by Anonymous13 years ago
People-5. The mass of ordinary persons; the populace.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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by Anonymous13 years ago
A militia is a group of people who have stepped up from everyone else to defend the nation. They have more or less been replaced by the national guard, deeming militias and the need for commonfolk to have a gun unnecessary.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Take that last part, " the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. ” That could be an amendment by itself. The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.
by Anonymous13 years ago
But only the last part isn't an Amendment, the whole thing, including the part about the militia is.
Take the following, for example.
"I have never said that he is a racist."
take just the last part
"He is a racist."
The last part can is a statement, but removing the first part takes all the meaning away.
by Anonymous13 years ago
It's it says that you need a well regulated militia, then it says people can have guns. It's two statment.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Call me a silly foreigner, but if the constitution contains such crazy laws as "everyone can own a gun for whatever reason" then maybe they should change it.
by Anonymous13 years ago
You're a silly foreigner.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Foreinger, yes, but not silly. Allowing everyone to have a gun is a bad idea.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Well, only people with no criminal record.
by Anonymous13 years ago
All people are born with no criminal record. Even with a background check, there is no way for a gun shop to know if that person is going to kill someone or not. They might not have a criminal record, but they could be planning something.
by Anonymous13 years ago
No guy planing on murdering someone would buy his gun from a gun shop.
by Anonymous13 years ago
You don't know that. If you have no criminal record, then getting a gun from a shop isn't terribly difficult.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I know, but they would have his name, the type of bullet he would have to use, his thumb prints ect. It would be much easier (and cheaper) to get one illegally.
by Anonymous13 years ago
If you're planning to kill someone, I would hope to God that you know that you know the consequences are. And I would think that if you are so set in killing someone, you really don't care if you get caught or not.
by Anonymous13 years ago
No, they would plan it meticulously so they don't get caught.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Most people do get caught. The police aren't stupid.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Well, the majority do, many get away with it.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Restricting the production, importation, and sale of legal guns would also make it easier to stop the illegal gun trade: most illegal guns are in fact bought legally in states with lax gun laws, then brought into states with stricter laws. It is a fiction to think that guns used in crimes are all bought illegally.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Amen to that.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Its not saving lives, its taking away liberties that every american (with no felony charges) should have.
by Anonymous13 years ago
But if lives are being lost (which they are), then isn't not only right, but imperative that guns be taken away?
by Anonymous13 years ago
So with that logic we should take cars away too then. Also if guns kill people pencils misspell words, alcohol makes people drive drunk, and spoons made Rossie O Donnell fat
by Anonymous13 years ago
Guns don't kill people, people kill people; guns just make it far too easy. Also cars are not only useful, but necessary in modern society. One could make the argument that guns are neither useful nor necessary.
by Anonymous13 years ago
So not useful or necesary to defend yourself from someone with a gun? If someone is chasing you in your house I doubt you will call the police and just wait for him to kill you. If you have a gun it let's you defend yourself for the polie to get there
by Anonymous13 years ago
But if gun rights are restricted, there won't be any guns for someone to have in your house, be them an intruder or not.
by Anonymous13 years ago
over a million guns are illegally brought into the U.S each year. I doubt any criminal will legally buy a gun if they're outlawed. They will still get their guns
by Anonymous13 years ago
No, but as LewisL said before, if legal guns are restricted, they won't be on the black market, which would help the illegal gun problem.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Its called the black market for a reason. I doubt it will listen to any laws of any country.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Not the point that the black market doesn't follow laws. All guns have to be bought legally at some point. Those guns may be stolen and that's how they get to the black market. If a damper is put on the legal gun trade, they won't get to the black market.
by Anonymous13 years ago
What about the millions of illegal guns in the U.S already? Those will just be hidden and stay with the criminals while we give up our guns to the government.
by Anonymous13 years ago
That is also an issue and I'm not going to deny it. However that is part of the immigration problem, which also needs to be fixed. Allowing people to have guns would help with that short-term, but in the long term, once illegal immigration is taken care of, those guns will only cause more problems than they would solve now.
by Anonymous13 years ago
How does illegal immigration play into this?
by Anonymous13 years ago
It's the illegal immigrants that you mentioned that bring the guns into the country, solve that problem and the gun issue will largely be controlled as well.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I doubt that it is just illegal immigrants bringing guns into the country. People do make a living off of selling guns illegally (like to gangs) along with people who sell drugs illegally.
by Anonymous13 years ago
But that all goes back to the fact that if legal gun sales are restricted, it is much harder to obtain a gun, both legal and illegal (less guns on the streets means fewer guns to exist illegally).
by Anonymous13 years ago
Wow, this is a *really* old cliché. My grandpa used to say this all the time.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Yes, and maybe it's a really *true* one. Your grandpa's been around alot longer than you.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Now, my house was almost burglarized a few years ago, and if intruders came in and I didn't have my dad's Winchester 1894 lever action rifle we all wouldve been screwed.
Fully automatic weapons are illegal in California, but gangsters in LA still smuggle them in. While the most firepower civilians can have is a semi automatic 7.62x51mm rifle with about a 10 round internal magazine (each round is loaded into the weapon, no external feeding mechanism, which sucks ass) while the gangsters have full auto AKM-47s with 30 round magazines. In a firefight, the gangsters will have a huge advantage.
I'm not saying that full auto's should be legal, but at least give us more firepower.
by Anonymous13 years ago
And yes I made several grammatical mistakes in my comment, but i just woke up so...lol
by Anonymous13 years ago
Yeah, our house was broken into (twice actually). Our house was a model home, so this guy who used to work here still had a key, and he came in one night. My dad fought him out the door and ran to grab his pistol, once the guy saw the gun he ran off.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Well I'm happy here in Australia where there is strict gun control.
by Anonymous13 years ago
What about the people in rural areas? What's wrong with them having guns?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Nothing, if they meet the requirments to have one.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Why do they need to pass requirements? Almost everybody in rural areas has guns and you almost never hear about gun violence there.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Depends what country you're in :P over here you have to have a reason to have a gun, like if you live on a farm, or belong to a gun club. And requirements are important, you need to stop some people from having guns even in America, like criminals.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Criminals have a hard time getting them legally. Also, I do live on a farm.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Yeah see, you still have restricitions and i'm pretty sure (at least I hope) a 10 year old wouldn't be able to go and buy a gun :P
by Anonymous13 years ago
No you have to be 18 to buy a gun, but you can own one at any age. But only if the person giving it to you thinks you're responsible enough to own it.
by Anonymous13 years ago
My point was not that the post isn't true; the point is that it is already widely accepted as true, for such a long period of time, that it's lame and obvious to post it here. It's like saying "A penny saved is a penny earned", "can't never could", or "proper preparation prevents piss poor performance"... get it now? Perhaps you should save the subtle jabs until you're sure you understand what the person is saying.
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