+413 I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Exercise builds up your heart and you have a slower heart rate while resting so gtfo.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

fun fact: massage has the same effect on the muscles/blood as exercise without exhausting the muscles.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No it does not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually coming from a student in massage therapy school, yes it does. Swedish massage moves blood and lymph around as well as breaks up toxins/byproducts of action in the muscles. The movement of blood around the body brings fresh nutrition to the muscles as exercise does. The muscles receive 1/4 of the body's blood while resting, during massage or exercise, the muscles receive 1/2 of the body's blood supply. Massage isnt gonna make you bulk up immediately and its not exactly cardio work, I am not saying that you can get massage alone in replacement of exercise but it does in fact have the same affects on muscles as exercise-but it does not exhaust the muscles as exercise does because they are being manipulated by an outside source and not action potentials. 5 minutes of massage has the same affect on muscle fatigue as 2 hours of rest.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If massages don't raise your heart rate and make you fit, then you have no justification for saying "massage has the same effect on the muscles/blood as exercise."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it does though, not as fast, but it does...and you didnt get the whole phrase, Massage has the same effect on the muscles as exercise without exhausting them.When you are resting, blood moves around your muscles rather than through them, when you are exercising/being massaged, blood is moving through your muscles-giving them nutrition. A person is moving your muscles/manipulating them and your joints, if you get massaged for too long (say 3 hours straight) you would feel sore as if you have been exercising. It does increase your heart rate (as well as many other changes in the body), just not as excessive as when you are exercising. If someone in a coma gets massages daily, their muscles will not atrophy (decrease in size from lack of use) as fast. Why are you arguing with me, you obviously dont know much about anatomy and physiology because everything im saying makes perfect sense.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It doesn't get the heart rate AS high and doesn't add muscle so no it doesn't have the same effects. It makes sense that its comparable to cardio but not as effective in that regard. They both have a place in health but not the same.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

god damn it have you read everything I've wrote on here. The primary effects that massage has compared to exercise is that-massage FEEDS a muscle the way exercise does WITHOUT exhausting it. When you are resting your muscles only get 1/4 pf the body's blood, when you are being massaged/exerciseding your muscles get 1/2 of the blood. Now if you dont know what blood does, it delivers nutrients to the body and the muscles are getting nutrition when the blood moves through them. Say a person is in a coma or injured in a way that they can not move-massage will keep the muscles from atrophy to a degree, so yes it does add muscle tone/firmness.If a normal healthy person exercised and received regular massage they would be good to go. How can you act like you know what you are talking about when I'm the one that goes to school for this, in a state where massage is regarded as a medical practice.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If your arm is in a cast and you do regular joint movements on the fingers, your arm will not be as shriveled up when the cast comes off because you are getting blood in to your arm.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I get what you're saying, and it is good for those who cannot move but the fact that is feeds the muscle without exhausting it makes it not the same as exercise. Sure it feeds the muscle which is good but not as good/the same as exercise for those who can. I"ve never heard from any massage therapist/physiologist that massage has the same effect as working out. I've definitely been told that it helps but that's it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well thats what exercise does, feeds your muscles. When you are exercising, you are using chemical energy (in the form of ATP) to create contractions, synthesis of ATP can create byproducts/toxins like lactic acid. Kneading generates heat, like exercise generates heat because you are moving the muscles. The muscles are still being moved, ATP is just not being used up. Massage has many other affects on the body other than similar to exercise-you are moving blood and lymph and breaking up toxins, not just rubbing people. We follow specific patterns in effort to get the blood moving, break up toxins that build up in the muscles from ATP synthesis, and bring fresh blood into the area. I am not saying at all that massage is a replacement for exercise, which is what everyone is assuming. Exercising regularly and receiving massage would be a very healthy habit. Fuck, giving a massage is exercise. Have you personally spoken with a massage therapist? Then how would you know

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So.. we kind of agree? I know all that stuff happens (and that massaging people is a workout, I've seen my friends, who are massage therapist's arms.) but because it's not at the same level I don't consider it the same.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

New excuse for laziness!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wasn't that Neil Armstrong?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Says the person who dies at 42... Look it up tubby.. Heart disease number one reason people die in America... And person talking about massages.. If it were that easy everyone would get massages instead of workout

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Im not saying its a replacement, you guys are obviously not intelligent enough about anatomy to understand what I am talking about. Massages are very beneficial to the body and it has and affect on all systems of the body and not just muscles. Im not saying 'dont work out get a massage instead' I am in school with people who are athletic/personal trainers that know that value of exercise-but they also know that massage has the same affect of feeding the muscle. Again you are probly not smart enough to understand the concept.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ok i'd like to see you say that once you're dead at the age of 40. Not working out makes you fat which blocks arteris in your heart causing heart attacks and other such things...if your post was really logical then there wouldn't be millions of overweight people dying because they're overweight and everyone in the world would be morbidly obiese.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A MASSAGE IS NOT A WORK OUT. YOU CAN RUB MY CHEST ALL YOU WANT AND I GUARANTEE YOU I WON'T BE ABLE TO BENCH MORE.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Dude you are dumb thats not what I am saying, its not going to make you bulk up. Massage nourishes the muscles by getting blood moving through them. And actually you wont be able to bench more but you will be able to do more reps. I am not saying this post is right I just added the fun fact cus its true.Did you actually read the things said, you probly dont know shit about anatomy and physiology and how muscles actually work

by Anonymous 13 years ago

rofl, how did this get so serious?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

hey man people dont know what they are talking about. I know this post was a joke and everybody had to take it seriously. i threw the massage thing in there cus its true and kind of a neat fact, I think its funny they try to argue with me when I have had 6 anatomy and physiology classes and am going to school for massage. Um I think I know what I'm talking about.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Dude, telling people they are too stupid to understand or that they dont know anatomy well enough to get this doesn't make you sound like you are super intelligent and that you know what you are talking about, it makes you sound like a dick. Maybe be a little more patient or explain better. Their point is just that massage is not going to build up muscle the same way working out does. To be honest though, I've only ever gotten massages as a way to relieve sore muscles after working out.

by Anonymous 13 years ago