Why is it that when a pregnant woman is murdered it is considered a double murder for her and her baby, but abortion is not considered murder even though it has the same result? People need to make up their minds, amirite?

It's only a double murder once she's reached a certain stage in the pregnancy, I believe. I'm pretty sure it's when she's at the point that the baby could be born prematurely with a chance of survival.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I thought a fetus doesn't count at all because some think that it should not count as a person

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not sure how the law is here. Clearly it's a foggy area because of all the debating.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

he's right, but the real question is, "what if they get an abortion when the baby is at that stage?"

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It's illegal to get an abortion when the baby is at that stage.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Not always...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It's always illegal, but laws aren't always followed. In fact, less than a year ago the arrested a doctor who had done hundreds of abortions within weeks of the many mothers' due dates.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

and if they can't get a doctor, they use a coathanger, wtf is up with people these days?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

In the state I live in, late term abortions are legal, as are all the earlier types.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It isn't people "these days". The coat hanger thing has been around for a long time.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Legally, it is only considered a double murder if it can be proved that the baby took his/her first breathe before dying. This is because, under the law, the baby isn't an actual person until it has taken its first breathe. This doesn't make me very happy.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

This is actually a really good point, I've never thought of it like that.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Well, don't forget this part. Abortion is not considered murder because it's the womans choice. The mother gets to decide whether or not to keep her baby. The choice is not left up to some random psycho murderer. If she was going to keep the baby, and someone ELSE gets rid of it, then thats murder, because it wasn't HER choosing to abort. You see? :)

by Anonymous 14 years ago

So she's allowed to kill her baby and it's not called murder?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Is still murder how I look at it..maybe they made the mistake of not using protection but that doesn't mean your suppose to take the fetus away just cause you want to cover up your own mistakes.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Actually, in the majority of unplanned pregnancies, the parents DO use protection. Condoms and birth control are not 100% effective, even when used together. There are also cases of rape, which are in no way the mother's fault.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Is still murder how I look at it..maybe they made the mistake of not using protection but that doesn't mean your suppose to take the fetus away just cause you want to cover up your own mistakes.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

The majority of induced abortion pregnancies were conceived after birth control failed

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I reckon it's a choice as far as abortion goes.. & they indeed need to make up their mind. Unless the baby was alive, I don't think it should be considered double murder.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

what you say kind of makes sense, but the real question isn't whether its murder if the baby is alive. the real question that people can't agree on is what defines a baby or fetus as "alive". the catholic church says that life begins at conception, i only know that because i went to catholic school. obviously the government defines life in a different way, because abortion is not considered murder.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Technically, the cell is a base unit of life. Anything made of cells which has yet to die is alive.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

If people think abortion is wrong, they should think masturbation is too. Abortion=not letting a baby live Masturbation= not letting sperm into a women so a baby can live. I think they should allow abortion.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(Think 'bout it): personally i think masturbation is wrong, but that's not the reason. i don't think it's nearly as bad as abortion. abortion isn't just not letting a baby live, it's killing a baby.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

i think abortion is wrong, because a women is makeing a choice for 2 people, not just herself. I'm pretty sure the baby doesn't want to be killed. And plus, you can't say "Well its her body, her choice," because it's not just her body, it's another as well. And all those arguing for abortion, how would you feel if your mother had gotten an abortion? Oh wait, that's right, you wouldn't. Because you'd be dead.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You sound like a passionate twelve year old

by Anonymous 11 years ago

abortion is murder no matter stage the baby is at

by Anonymous 14 years ago

exactly.

by Anonymous 14 years ago