If you follow the logic of anti abortion Christians, the typical masturbating male is a serial killer. amirite?

Wrong. Sperm alone cannot EVER produce an embryo. However, a fertilized egg IS an embryo and therefore, the beginnings of a baby. Your thought process is illogical, even though I know what you are trying to say.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Sperm have life too. "It's about the sanctity of life." -_-

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I hope you're not serious about sperm having life. Neither sperm nor eggs will EVER become capable of bearing life on their own.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

What are you saying? they run on batteries. Obviously they have life if they are wiggling and their tales are moving.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Flowers blossom. Trees grow. Are you saying these are living beings too because they "move" to some respect? No. Flowers, trees, and sperm all contain DNA instructions to complete their necessary tasks.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Trees are people too ya know? We need to take care of our environment.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Um sperm and eggs are definitely capable of becoming an human. Where do you think humans come from?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Does nobody know how to read properly? "Neither sperm nor eggs will EVER become capable of bearing life on their own." - Notice.. ON THEIR OWN.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Sperm make baby sperm all the time by the process of mitosis ON THEIR OWN! http://image.wistatutor.com/content/feed/tvcs/mitosis_phases_0.jpg

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You obviously didn't pay attention to science class. Yes, sperm go through mitosis on their own - again via DNA instructions - but they do not even come close to making a human being ON THEIR OWN. The only thing mitosis accomplishes is, in this case, more sperm. Mitosis duplicates the 23 chromosomes and then splits to make two sperms each with 23 chromosomes - 23 short of a human being. Seriously, I can't even believe I'm having this conversation. ono

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I never said a sperm made a human being on it's own ever I said it was capable of bearing life. It does bear life because it produces new sperm.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

OK, if I'm obviously talking about humans the entire time, it's not fair to twist my words. xD

by Anonymous 14 years ago

What about Mary?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

sperm are living, but sperm aren't HUMAN. they don't have complete human DNA, but an embryo/fetus does. sperm only have half the genetic material needed for a human being

by Anonymous 13 years ago

neither is a fertilized egg. Also if you say they because it has the genetic material to become one then a fertilzed cell from two apes is 98% human. therfore a monkey is more human than sperm.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A fertilized human egg is genetically a human being. Honestly what the actual fuck are you even talking about? There is no science backing up the validity of your statement.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I beleive that life starts at the erection.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

lmao

by Anonymous 14 years ago

If you define life as anything that has cellular movement, then yes, you are correct. But if you define life as something that can develop and grow and reproduce, then your logic is flawed.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Cells grow and reproduce.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

yeah, I didn't put that so eloquently, but I think you know what I mean.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

All I'm saying is they are living organisms. Just like the cells in your body they too can "Die". What is the opposite of life? Death.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Well, according to your argument, if I scratch my arm and thereby kill cells, I am committing murder. What makes sperm cells different from skin cells? Nothing, because sperm without an egg will remain just sperm, and a skin cell won't ever grow to be something more than that.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

The opposite of life is death. If you can say sperm die after a certain amount of time, then it is safe to conclude that they were alive before they died.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(Bliss):I'm not sure how that relates to your argument

by Anonymous 14 years ago

What I am saying is that they have life.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I'm not denying that, but if they have life, and it's murder to kill them, isn't it also murder to kill plants to eat them?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Then why are we fighting? I'm not a Christian anti abortion nutbag talking about how it's murder because a tiny blob has "life".

by Anonymous 14 years ago

because there's a difference between a sperm and a fetus. All by itself, the sperm has no potential to be something more. But a fetus has potential to be a human being. And it's unfair to take away it's chance for life. If you don't want to keep the baby, just put it up for adoption, there are plenty of people unable to have kids who could make it have a good future.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You mean kids that can be adopted by pedophiles or be living in families where they are treated unfairly or loathed by their siblings because they are "outsiders"? and yes a sperm has potential to be life. All those sperm that died during masturbation could have been inseminated into women.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

1. Cases like that are pretty rare, 2. Only one sperm out of the many ejaculated actually fertilize the egg. Are you, as an anti-abortion Christian then obligated to collect all the leftover sperm and find eggs to fertilize with them? So they don't die?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Hey they are "pro life" aren't they? Put them all in sperm banks. But hey I don't see you guys lining up to adopt crack babies.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

What, literally dig them out of a woman's vagina after you came? I really think it's time for you to make a distinction between sperm and fetus.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

"Pro Life" the argument is about "Life". Well hellooo dur dur durrr sperm have life too and can become babies.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

With your logic, I am committing murder every time I have my period.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Have you read the post? I am talking about it from a perspective of "Life" that you guys are always trumpeting. As you can see if you look at the big picture and not just a sperm and egg it is pretty ridiculous.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

First, stop calling me "You guys", I am pro choice, but strongly believe that people shouldn't get an abortion unless it's absolutely necessary. Second, your post isn't really hard to decipher. I understand that you disagree with pro-life Christians about their views, but don't "big picture" their views, they believe what they believe, I'm sure many of them have had this same discussion, and came to the conclusion that there is a difference between a sperm and a fetus, something that you are really stubborn to agree with for some reason.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You're killin me here.... I'll give you points for being persistent. But Life is still Life.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Well, you're kinda killing me here too :) I know life is life, I thought we established that. Maybe they should change their label to Pro-Fetus, so people like you aren't misguided by what they mean.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Agreed.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Okay, problem solved! I'm going to bed now. Goodnight!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Sweet Dreams :) If you can't fall asleep try to count sperm. lol :P

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Will try that

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I like nachos.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I think it would be genocide.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

If you go your whole life without sex is it considered extinction?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Most anti-abortion Christians believe that life begins at conception.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Or, y'know, anti-abortion atheists or muslims or buddhists.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well yeah, but the post was specifically referring to Christians.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes, but the argument you used is the one the majority of pro-abortion group would use.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In judaism, a man is not allowed to masturbate because it is wasting sperm.

by Anonymous 13 years ago