+292 If you commit adultery whether it be in the mind or physical, you have no right to judge homosexuals because, in the sight of God, fornication (form of adultery) and sodomy (modern term, homosexuality) are equal sins, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

God does not consider a homosexual marriage a real marriage, so whenever homosexuals participate in sexual activity (married or not), God views this is as fornication, sodomy, and adultery. I'm not bashing gays, just stating an opinion.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

How do you know what God considers?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The Bible.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

You can't prove that the Bible is the word of God. Any god who condems someone for loving the "wrong" person is a god I don't want to meet.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

How can you prove it's not the Word of God? You can't really prove either way, it's just a faith system. God made sex to produce children. The last time I checked, kids can't be born from gay sex. I don't know how God would view a celibate gay, but I believe I know how he judges a promiscuous gay.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

You can have babies without sex at all now. I'm sure if God exists he'd judge any promisucous person, gay or not. And if God exists and condems someone for being homosexual, then I think I'd rather be a Satanist.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Women can, but men can't. We all know that. Yes, He would judge a straight promiscuous person, but I think if they were a good enough Christian they would realize their mistake, and pray for forgiveness. I see you're going to make me repeat what I just said, so here: I DO NOT know how God judges a celibate gay, so I cannot say whether or not he would condemn them. A promiscuous gay is using sex for their own selfish pleasure, just like a promiscuous straight person does.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm POOPMAN and I approve this message.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well I'm not a fan of promiscuity anyway. What about a gay man who is monogomous with another man? Hell, right? I don't believe that. I don't believe what a book written hundreds of years ago by a group of white men says is true. I'm aware that the Bible is full of great morals to learn but some stuff is simply not true. I don't have a quote, but I believe you can interpret parts of the bible as saying that it's ok to beat your children and own slaves. People seem to pick out one part and blow it up. The Bible should be looked at not literally but as a set of morals and love being the most important. If you hate, then you are worse than those who love and do not believe. That's my understanding. I KNOW that if God exists I will be welcomed into his good grace because I love and I am the best person I can be. As I've said before, any god who doesn't think that's good enough is a god I'd rather not meet. I chose my own faith, not what a book and others tell me.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Sorry to say this but you will not be going to heaven JUST because you are a good person. You have to be a Christian as well. That isn't saying that all people that call themselves Christians are good people.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If you think that the only heaven is the Christian heaven, then sure. I don't.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well I guess if that is what you believe. I obviously don't think there are other heavens but that's just me.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

@1243672 (POOPMAN):Actually, no, you don't. For all I care, you could be atheist, and a good person, and make it in.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Read one post below me where OneBadWhiteKid posted John 3:16. It clearly says "...that whomever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life..." I don't see how you can understand that verse any other way than that you have to believe to go to heaven. So you can't be an atheist and still get in. You should at least know what's in your book.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I should have gone anon here, that's not me pretending to be God, that's my personal belief. I'm not getting into a religious fight here; I haver beliefs and you have yours. I think that anyone who follows the life of God will make it to heaven, regardless o religions or beliefs. How would you feel I'd a Budist (Sorry if I spelt it wrong) said that you cannot make it to their heaven because you believe in God?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Don't worry I wasn't mad I was just making a joke cause of your username and all. If a Buddhist(I cheated) told me I wasn't going to their heaven or whatever it is they believe because I don't follow their rules that wouldn't bother me. If I didn't follow their rules then I don't deserve to go to their heaven. Matthew 10:33 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." If you don't believe in God you can't go to the Christian heaven.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

You're quoting the Bible and won't even do it correctly? The Christian God, His pronouns included, are capitalized.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Sorry I copied the verse from a site and didn't bother to spell check. Next time I'll make sure everything is in order.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Sorry, but only Mormons get to heaven~

by Anonymous 12 years ago

"Sorry to say this but you will not be going to heaven JUST because you are a good person. You have to be a Christian as well." There are small indigenous groups in Africa that live more harmoniously than many devout Christians could ever dream of. They respect nature, they respect each other, and their conflicts are minimal to nonexistent. However, because they are isolated from urban society, they have never and will never hear about God, Jesus, or Christianity in general. Are you saying they will go to hell? Please answer, because I'm genuinely curious.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That is a tough question. Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" Sorry to use a Bible verse right away, but I actually don't fully comprehend how that works either. I guess because those native people would not have heard of evolution or any religion and would eventually wonder how this earth came to be or why they are here. When they start thinking about it they would come to the conclusion that a god created it. This is where my confusion lies because they know a god created it but I don't know how they would know the Christian God created it. While I was typing I started wondering if all native tribes have or had some sort of god or spirit that they worship. I'm not into those kind of studies but I'm just wondering if my little story there would be accurate.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whomever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. Baptism is necessary for entering into Heaven. I'm pretty sure that nowhere in the Bible it says that you can beat and enslave your children. Why shouldn't it be believed literally? These guys just didn't write a bunch of random stuff down. I agree with your statement about hate and love. I never said anything against it. You make it sound like you're making up your own qualifications to reach Heaven, but you can't just make up your own rules to reach Paradise. The qualifications are clearly listed in Scripture. Wow, you really amaze me. The Bible was not written by white men. It was written in the Middle East, which did not contain any white men at that time. Besides that, why would it matter what race of person wrote it? Come on, are you really that dumb?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I've only seen quote from the bible about beating your children and owning slaves (not enslaving your children, though at that time it was common practice to sell your children from what I know). Also, I thought I removed the "white" part because I immediately realized after rereading it that it was wrong, sorry. Either way, a bunch of old men writing stories (IMO). Who says I can't write my own rules? Do you know how many different religions that exist that insist they are the only right ones? I'd rather live my life by a set of reasonable morals and be a good person than blindly follow ancient writings (and no, I'm not saying that every Christian or religious person does that, so don't even go there).

by Anonymous 12 years ago

(Anonymous):Matthew 19:14 but Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.” Exodus 21:26-27 "And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake." Before you make a statement about the Bible, make sure it's true. Are you serious? You really think that you can make up your own qualifications to get into Heaven? All the other religion's ideas to reach Heaven are pretty much the same. You're saying that not every Christian blindly follows ancient writings? No real Christian in the whole world does. Not one.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I think someone said this before, but even the devil could quote the bible for his own use. Anyway, yes, I can make my own rules. Pretty much all religions ideas to reach heaven are based around being a good person, not silly outdated ideas about sexuality. Again, you have yet to post a quote from the bible saying that homosexual love is wrong. I haven't read the bible nor do I intend to because I KNOW that I am a good person, and if "God" doesn't like that, then as I said before, Satanism is for me. You can't tell someone they can't have their own ideals and morals and "rules" for getting into heaven. You don't have any true idea what it takes to get into heaven, or if it even exists. So I'll live my life as a good person and not be hindered by what a book says.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Oh, so you want a bible quote against homosexuality? Here's 3 Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God." Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent. Obviously, Christians aren't as harsh toward gays as they were back then, but you told me to list verses about homosexuality. To reach Heaven, there are rules, which ARE listed in the Bible MANY times.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I still didn't see anything about homosexual love. I do know that quote, and it says that love is above all of those things (which to ME says that if I love, that's the most important thing). You can be hindered when how you interpret that book drives you to hate (which happens ALL the time in religion). Again, if "God" doesn't think that is enough, that what I do is enough, then I'd rather not meet him. If fighting for the rights of same sex couples gets me out of heaven, then "God" is not a being I want to exist with.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Who in their right mind reads the Bible, and is driven to hate? Westboro Baptist Church is one example, but are you really going to judge all of Christianity off of one extremely hateful, radical, and stupid group? What exactly do you mean by homosexual love? I don't know what you mean by that. Also, all it says is that committing homosexual acts will bring you subject to Hellfire, not fighting for their rights. Where in the world did you get that I said that? Well, if you don't want to get to Heaven, I can't make you, can I? But several times you mentioned Satanism, I mean, seriously? Satan wants you to kill, rape, beat, and hurt people. If you're the "good" person that you keep insisting you are, then why would you choose Satanism? Know what you're talking about.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I pointed out earlier that I wouldn't base my opinion of a religious group based on the actions of some. But you can't count the numbers of deaths made in the name of "God" throughout the course of history and well into today. There is nowhere in the bible where it says that to love someone is wrong. It does not say that homosexual love is a sin. It says to lust and whatever is wrong (based on the quotes you provided) which it also says about any kind of sexuality. Satanism has nothing to do with what you're saying. Lucifer does not approve of rape or murder. Satanism is about someone who disagreed with the vengeful God and wanted a place for people who believe in being happy and who believe in the simple pleasures of life (which the bible often condemns, because apparently pleasure is sin). There is a special place for those who rape, murder, etc. but Satanism isn't about that at all. It's about wanting to be a good person and enjoy the life they have.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

True, many people have been killed because of religion. But, a lot of that happened in the Middle East between Islamic, Jewish, and other religions. Christianity did have a part, but it was just the radical ones who did the killing. True, it doesn't say that loving is wrong. You still have not defined what "homosexual love" is. Is it loving homosexuals, or the love between 2 homosexuals? Please, answer that. No, no, no. You have the idea of Satanism COMPLETELY wrong. First of all, Lucifer was a fallen angel who thought that he was better than God, and was defeated by Michael the Archangel. The only type of pleasure that the Bible condemns is pre-marital sex. Seriously, name one pleasure besides fornication that the Bible condemns? Satan is also known as "The Tempter." He tempted Jesus in the desert. Satan is the exact OPPOSITE OF GOD. Yes, Satan is the one that wants you to rape, beat, and murder others. Who gave you this idea of Satanism?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Hahaha SOOO many Christians slaughtered people (hear of the Crusades before?). Religion has always been abused and as an excuse for destroying anything different. That is my biggest issue with religion. Obviously not everyone of a religious group does this, but in general I believe that religion has caused more negative than positive. Faith is another thing entirely. Homosexual love is love that happens to be between two people of the same sex. I know more about Satanism than you. Anyway, doesn't the bible say that sex should only be for procreation? I said "apparently" for a reason. The Satan portrayed in the bible, yes. But not by the religion Satanism. If that's what you think Satanism is then you've only learned about it from popular portrayals from the media and never done any real research. Satan is not the opposite of God. Satan disagreed with how God was running his kingdom and didn't believe that people should be killed for enjoying themselves.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Please tell me you're joking. Earlier, you said you wouldn't judge Christianity because of a small group of radicals, but you just did. Can you not translate those 3 Bible verses? They're very easy to understand. Go back and read them, if you still can't see that they speak against homosexual love, then there's nothing I can do. Isn't Satanism the worship of Satan? So what's the difference between the religion Satanism and Satan? If God is the ruler of Heaven, and Satan is the ruler of Hell, two completely opposite places of the afterlife, wouldn't that make the two rulers opposites? I think so. Sex is for procreation. I never said it wasn't. You said the Bible apparently condemns pleasure, I said that it didn't, because it doesn't. How does "apparently" completely change the meaning of the statement? You know what? I'm a Christian and I enjoy my life very much. Every Christian would tell you the same. Read the Bible. Then you might know something.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't judge Christians. I'm just saying that you can't say Christians have only done a little bit of damage. Anyway, what happens is that you get some crazy religious leader in a time of need and it all goes to hell. I know tons of Christians and I love them because they're my friends and they aren't radicals. But you can't say that religion hasn't caused a ton of harm (religion not Christianity). Satan is portrayed differently in the bible than he is in Satanism. Just as in Satanism God is portrayed as vengeful and controlling whereas in the bible he is portrayed as all loving. I said apparently because that was my understanding. Anyway, I asked about the 7 deadly sins. They're mostly about pleasure. Isn't Lent all about denying yourself of a pleasure? How is sex the only pleasure the bible says is bad?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm sure you're very happy. I respect that and I think it's great that you've got faith. But don't tell me who is going to hell based on your religious text. Your religion is but one in thousands and you have no place to tell someone else that their beliefs are wrong. You also have no place to tell me that I won't go to the heaven that I may believe in because it doesn't match your religion, or that I can't make my own rules based on what I believe is right and expect that if there is a god, that will be enough. You have no place to say that what I believe or do not believe is wrong, just as I have no place to say what you believe is wrong. They speak against lust and whatnot, but nowhere is the word "love" mentioned.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

And aren't we all given "original sin" because someone ate an apple? From what I've been told, pleasure is a big thing in the bible. Like, masturbation, sex, indulgence, etc. Like I said, I've never read it, but this is what I've heard. I could be wrong, but I'm sure you could find some quotes. Where did the "7 deadly sins" come from? I thought that was biblical?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The 7 deadly sins: Lust- We've already discussed that. Gluttony- basically, a dangerous addiction to something. Most of the stuff that is very addicting, may bring you pleasure at that time, but it will severely hurt your health, appearance, and confidence later on. Greed- Nobody likes a greedy person, so you won't have many friends. Sloth- Being lazy will not help you in life. Wrath: Being vengeful isn't part of being a good person. A good person forgives and forgets, right? Envy- Jealousy won't bring pleasure. Pride: Loving yourself over others, that's not too good either. I didn't say your beliefs were wrong, I was just stating mine. I was using you as an example. Original sin is removed at baptism, BTW.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Still, a lot of those involve pleasure (which I guess is where the confusion comes from?). I will say however, in relation to gay marriage, that it should be legal if only because not everyone who gets married does it religiously. Therefore, someone's religion shouldn't dictate that another be unable to marry because of that religious belief. I can understand not having a same-sex marriage in a church that is against such, but a marriage that is legal to the government should be allowed for any person. I'm also not totally against polygamy as a whole. (Just drawing us back on topic, I think.)

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Okay, I can understand where you are coming from regarding same-sex marriage. I have absolutely no problem with gays. And, if homosexuality really isn't a choice, I hope they do reach Heaven. But, we will never really know if it's a choice or not, because it seems to differ with every one. I think they should have every right, just not to marry. Can we just agree to disagree?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I think that one religion shouldn't define the rights of all. I mean, I'm not even religious (I'm not gay, but for argument sake lets say I am), so why should I be denied the right to marry a woman under the government law (with nothing involving a church, or god, or whatever)? It simply doesn't make sense to me, especially when the government claims that there is a separation of church and state. I'll agree to disagree. I'm just curious is all about the reasoning behind denying same-sex marriages. Also, homosexuality isn't a choice, that's a simple fact. Regardless of whether you believe god made people that way to "test" them or whatever, it is not a choice.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The Church of Satanism doesn't really worship him, right? It's just atheism where you put yourself before everyone else, if I'm not mistaken.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No... They don't have any specific way to worship Satan or anything like that (as far as I can recall) but they aren't Atheist. Anyway, the idea isn't to put yourself first, but rather to enjoy yourself. Obviously, should you love and chose to put others before you, that wouldn't go against Satanism.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I knew it was something along those lines. You should at least give me some credit for not being all, "U LUV TEH DEVIL!!11!!1!"

by Anonymous 12 years ago

*100 internets credits* :) Yeah, too many people think it's what the media makes it seem.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Hooray, I'm rich! If you worship Satan, cool. I don't get it, but whatever. To each his own as long as he doesn't freak out over how other people live their lives.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I agree! I don't really believe in Satan or God or anything (in the religious sense), I'm more agnostic than anything. But still, as long as people are trying to be good, then that's enough for me.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Except Satanism isn't even really the worship of Satan at all, amirite? Know a little about it before you bitch. Most of their beliefs make a lot of sense. Love to those who deserve it. Look out for yourself first. Play yourself off as a saint as much as you want, but that's in fact how most people behave, not the whole "LOVE EVERY1!!!1!!1" bullshit. Right, I'm gonna go hug Hitler. brb.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Look out for yourself first? I thought Satanists were supposed to be "good" people. If they were good people, they would help others in need before themselves. Love to those who deserve it? So, you're not supposed to care about some random person that you've never met, because they haven't deserved your love? John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. Okay then, what do Satanists worship?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Just because you don't know someone doesn't mean they don't deserve love. The idea is that, no, I will not love that rapist or pedophile (whereas the bible would tell you otherwise).

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The Bible will tell you to pray for them, so that they may overcome their past, and hopefully lead a better life in the future. Have you ever heard of righteous anger? An example would be when Jesus went into the temple in Jerusalem, and overturned the tables and drove out the merchants, calling the temple "A house of prayer for all nations." Also, you didn't answer my last question in my last comment. Is that because you don't know?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The bible still tells you to love all. Which I simply do not agree with. I will never love the man who raped me. If that sends me to hell, then fuck it. I'd rather be there. I actually missed that, sorry. Satanists worship Lucifer, yes, but not the Devil the bible portrays nor do they "worship" in the same sense as a Christian worships God. They simply believe in living and being happy and enjoying yourself while knowing that Lucifer has a place for you outside of a vengeful God's heaven. The God portrayed in Satanism is not the same as the God portrayed in the bible (apart from all the smiting and whatnot, which Satanism focuses on as a God you might not want to meet so why not have an alternative?).

by Anonymous 12 years ago

So Satanist groups made up a belief about Satan and God, but never actually knew Satan, and were never spoken to by Satan? In the Bible, God spoke to many authors (Moses and the Burning Bush for example) of the Bible. At least that's what they say. It may seem unlikely, but that's why there is faith. A vengeful God? God only punishes those who sincerely did not ask for forgiveness, because if they had really wanted forgiveness, they would have asked for it in prayer. For every wrongdoing, there must be punishment, right? Also, most of the morals to living a good life were created in the Bible, not by Satanism. Kind of contradictory.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm not totally sure. As far as I know it's an interpretation of the bible, actually. There is a Satanic bible, I'm just not too sure what it says. That would be something I'd have to look up. But (this is a silly example, I know) have you ever seen the movie Constantine? There's this black upside-down bible thing, and that's based on fact about Satanism. Anyway, it's not simply made up (like Scientology or something). Anyway, most of the morals for living a good life existed LONG before the bible ever did, so that's simply a wrong statement. Satanism, like most other religions, is an interpretation of a sacred text. So you may say that God is all loving, where a Satanist would say clearly he's not if he smites everyone who disobeys him.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Ok, from what I understand there are two different kinds of Satanism. There is Satanism which I've been talking about (an interpretation of the bible and the fall of Lucifer and whatnot). Then, there is the Satanism in which people believe in neither the devil or any god and they believe that we are our own gods and therefore we must worship ourselves. It is called a selfish religion, however that is often misinterpreted. It means that you should do what you want (and if that means loving someone, then you should do it wholeheartedly) as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. They openly state that homosexuality, heterosexuality, pansexuality, asexuality, etc. are all equal and natural and should be indulged in. However, bestiality, rape, and pedophilia are not ok because they do harm others and where there is no consent, that is wrong.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Homosexuality is not natural. It may not be a choice, but when humans were created, they were not made to have sexual feelings for the same sex. Which is why you can't have procreation with gay sex. How did most of the morals for living a good life exist long before the Bible? Humans weren't here to establish what's wrong and what's right. So, no, your statement is wrong. Satanism is an interpretation of the Bible? I could interpret any writing any way I want, but that doesn't mean it's right.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

There were religions for thousands of years before Christianity and before the bible and people had morals based on what they KNEW was right and wrong. I know what is right and wrong not based on a book. Homosexuality certainly is natural. It exists in nature all over the place (penguins, apes, and tons of other animals). Penguins will mate for life and it does happen that males will mate with males, and females with females. It happens all the time and it is a totally natural, as is pansexuality and asexuality and whatever. These exist within nature and therefore are, by definition, natural.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

In the Bible, it says Baptism and belief is necessary, and it tells what sins will get you sent to Hell. A whole lot of being a Christian is being a good person, and I have no idea where you got that God doesn't like that. Have you not heard of the 3 best virtues; faith, hope, and love? The religions that do think that just being a good person will reach Heaven are the ancient Egyptian beliefs, which are non-existing today. How can anybody be "hindered" by following a book of good morals? The Ten Commandments are the morals by which we live life today.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The people who wrote the bible were Arabs. And it clearly states that the only way to get in to heaven is to repent your sins and accept Jesus as your savior, that's all it requires to get it, doesn't matter if youre a good person or not

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Again, assuming you believe that is the only heaven or that it's even right.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The only reason you would follow what the bible tells you is if you believe that it's the only heaven and that it's right, so you're comment is completely useless and unnecessary

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Except that laws based against same-sex marriage are based on the bible, which is my point. So I agree, you would follow the bible if that's what you believe. However, the bible has no place in the law (at least, with "separation of church and state" it shouldn't have a place, and yet). I was also making a point that one can't say whether my means of getting into heaven are right or wrong because they don't know what heaven I'm looking for, or something like that.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If you are looking for the Islamic heaven, or the Sikh heaven, of course your not gonna follow the Christian Bible, your going to follow the Q'aran, or the Sikh Holy Book.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Which was my point. Anyway, the argument was resolved last time I checked, so read the other comments maybe? My confusion really is with why the bible has any say in the laws.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well, to answer your question, America was established by Catholics, so they used their moral codes (ie, the bible) ad the basis for the laws they created

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Except one of the very first things they decided was that church and state would be separate. Therefore, especially in this day and age, the laws should not involve the bible.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But gay sex is so much better than straight sex... No one knows how to please a girl like a girl. As long as sex can't make children it's just for pleasure. Would God really deny his people pleasure?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Hmm... I've found that if I just tell the guy what to do, it works out pretty well haha. Then again, I've never had sex with a woman! Anyway, I don't think God is what the bible makes him out to be. I think if there is a God, he's all the good that there is, and if you love someone (regardles of who they are), you are loving one of God's creations, and that is beautiful. I don't personally believe one way or the other when it comes to this, but I know that if God is real, he's good and I know that I am good, and that's all that matters. Who I sleep with or love doesn't change the person that I am, and if God can't see that, it's not worth my time.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah... I'm agnostic. The way I see it, as long as I'm a good person who doesn't intentionally hurt others I should be fine, no matter what the Truth is.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Exactly! Also, I agree with what you're saying to the Anon below. I've never had gay sex so I can't say that it'd be better or worse, but I do know that I'm straight so I'll likely never find out. Frankly, as long as you're comfortable with the person you're with, that's all that matters to me :) Anyway, I have a hard enough time with the idea of "God" as it is, let alone what the Bible says God is. Maybe I'll find out some day, but for now I'm going to do what I know is right, and simply be a good person.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Homosexuality is in the Bible, though. Jus' sayin'.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Plus, why would 'God' CARE?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Does it matter? I'm not even Christian, but it explicitly states that two guys having sex is a sin, I'm guessing the same goes for two chicks. "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)

by Anonymous 12 years ago

(:(): Who said that? If Jesus or Moses said that, it means something (I am Christian), but otherwise it's just some random guy's opinion.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

IMO I don't think homosexuality is a sin, yes the Bible says it is but I just don't see how being yourself is a sin. Maybe that passage was misinterpreted I don't know, I'll just have to remember to ask God to clear it up when I see him.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I feel as though instead of clicking "yeah you are!" one might vote "Aye!"

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Sin is sin, the Bible clearly teaches that it is sin that separates man from God regardless what kind it is.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But lesbians are fine right?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Homosexuality is not a sin. It cannot possibly be a sin for being yourself and being gay isn't a choice so it cannot be a sin when God made you that way.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I do not believe homosexuality is a sin even though I am Christian. beleive anything just because it is in the Bible. Nobody fully understands God or the Bible so you can't know for sure what is really right and wrong. "Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." — Siddhārtha Gautama

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The bible says that in a marriage, if the bride is NOT a virgin, she would be executed. You can not eat shrimps, no haircuts either. If you are going to say being gay is a sin because "its in the bible" you should read it again and realize how many things you do in a normal day can be considered as "sins". You can't ignore the others and say "times have changed, its okay now BUT being gay will ALWAYS be a sin" It doesn't work that way. Being gay is not a sin.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No haircuts?? :O

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Story of Samson, strongest man in the world as long as he never cut his hair.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Amen. I do not approve of homosexuality, but i completely agree with this. Jesus said "He who is without sin may cast the first stone." We have no right to condemn others for their sins, only God does. I am in no way saying homosexuality is correct or not a sin. But i have no place to say so. "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged" (Matthew 7:2) In Gods eyes, sin is sin. No matter what it is, its all equal.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm not positive about this, but I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the bible it basically says that a sin is a sin is a sin. Be it adultery, murder, or lying, you've sinnned. You need to ask forgiveness for any sin and it will be forgiven. (Not saying homosexuality is or isn't a sin. Just saying this about sins in general.)

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I have no idea where people got the idea that sodomy is this uber sin. no sin is worse than another. All sins are equal, and as the person said above me, they can all be forgiven.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

All sins are equal if you are truly sorry for them, but if you call someone a name and aren't sorry, it's probably not as bad as if you drop a nuclear bomb on a city and aren't sorry.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

you dont have the right to bash gays either way

by Anonymous 12 years ago

the annonymous poster at the beginning quoting the Bible is fucking shithead and should be punched in the neck. what a pussy syaing stupid shit annoymously

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Your threatening and insulting someone on the Internet. That's just as bad

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The guy at the beginning wasn't saying stupid shit, he was just pointing out that homosexuals were also commiting adultery, therefore they are commiting 2 "sins". I was actually going to say that. I don't believe homosexuality is a sin at all, and I don't think that other anonymous guy does either, but this post was obviously meant for those who believe everything in the bible, so he was looking at it from their point of view to show the flaws in this post. BTW I know we are both anonymous, but I swear on my life I am not that guy.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Nobody has any right to judge anybody because we are all sinners. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I disagree that you should hate homosexuality even if you love homosexuals.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well, not necessarily hate, but recognize it as not right. Sort of like you don't hate turning into the far lane in traffic, you just recognize that it's not right.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Holy crap! This person knows what God thinks!!! Oh wait, no she doesn't, so shut the fuck up.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

This post was meant for people who think that God wrote the bible (and therefore we do know what God thinks), so the OP wrote the post from their point of view so it would make sense to them.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Let's change this post a little bit: If you commit adultery whether it be in the mind or physical, you have no right to judge serial killers because, in the sight of God, fornication (form of adultery) and murder are equal sins, amirite? Of course not. I do not believe that homosexuality is a sin at all, let alone a worse sin than others, but I disagree with the logic of this post.

by Anonymous 12 years ago