+164 It seems hypocritical to disallow children from watching violent films or listening to music with swear words yet read them nursery rhymes with themes such as virginity and plague, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Um, I don't recall hearing ANY nursery rhymes of that sort....example, please?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Ring around a rosie is about the black plague

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That song is CREEPY when sung very slowly by a little girl in a haunted house!!!!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Isn't it a bitch when people no way your comment, even though it's true?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

All these meanies :(

by Anonymous 12 years ago

This is an example of an urban myth which has become extremely popular, but which is untrue.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No, it's true. There are two versions, the urban legend refers to the newer, altered version which does stray from the original meaning. But the original is definitely about the plague.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Actually, the newer versions of Ring around the Rosie are the ones which people interpret as being about the plague. Many early versions of Ring around the Rosie surfaced in print around the same time, making it difficult to assert definitively which is the original, but it's unlikely that the one which vaguely seems to reference the plague is the correct one. It isn't even the first one to appear in print: The one which first appeared in print contained only 2 of the lines often used when claiming it is about the plague, and these lines, 'a pocket full of posies' and 'We all fall down' aren't particularly suggestive at all.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Either way, most kids think that it's about the black death.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What? No child would think that, unless the parent was like "HAHA SON THIS SONG IS ABOUT THE BLACK DEATH A HORRIBLE DISEASE THAT KILLED MILLIONS HAHA" I would say that at the age when most children would be learning that rhyme, they wouldn't even know what the black death was, and if they did probably wouldn't put two and two together.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well my school said that it meant that. Guess my school just sucked lol.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well, people in those days carried flowers, especially posies, around to mask the smell of decomposing bodies. And "we all fall down" just means... we all die.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The first line mentions 'roses' though, and not in the context of rosy blotches around the arm. It seems more likely that the first version in print was a rhyme about children collecting flowers. I've also heard that 'we all fall down' did not originally lead to the actual action of falling down, and that is was more a curtsy or bow.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Really? I was taught that the roses alluded to high fevers, boils, and skin diseases that accompanied the plague. "Ashes, ashes" referred to decomposing bodies, which led to "falling down." But you never know, there's lots of speculation about what the song really means.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

In the theory you're referencing, ashes refers to the necessity of burning the bodies. Ring around the rosie is a supposed reference to rings of boils around the wrists. However, the actual symptoms of the plague, including the boils, were most often black, and the ring of boils around the wrists was not a common symptom.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Oh :/ Well, you learn something new every day. y

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Humpty Dumpty and Ring a Ring a Roses

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No it's not, Humpty Dumpty was about a king, just like most of them are

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Humpty Dumpty is about a cannon.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Uhhhh... since when is sickness and virginity considered on the same level as swears and violence? Why'd you even include virginity? That's just stupid.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Society views sex as worse than killing and violence.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

ORLY? Murder - 30 years to life in prison. Sex - 0 years And also, VIRGINITY IS NOT SEX.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/ProjectGeno/Expression%20Pictures/My%20Little%20Pony/rainbow_dash_ya_rly_animation_by_mariokinz-d3ah8a8.gif Last time I checked, sex is not a felony (or crime at all). Murder is a felony. PG-13 movies have A LOT of killing in them, but yet if they had sex, the movie would've been raised to R. It goes for games too. Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker had a shitload of killing, but no sex, so it had a T rating. It included neck snapping, guns, explosives, knives, etc. Amusingly, Metal Gear Solid 3 (same series, but MGS PW was its sequel) had all of those things, but a sexual scene was included. 'twas rated M for that. GTA San Andreas was first rated M, but once it was discovered to have sex in it, it was raised to Adults only. Btw, you don't happen to know ijustine, do you? Your username...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't think you understand that when I said 0 years I meant that it wasn't a crime, you moronic penis. And do you really think porn is on the same level as violence?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

...Shit. I apologize for that. Should've read more carefully. No, but society does.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

"No, but society does" ono Either re-evaluate your argument or re-evaluate what you just said.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Society thinks that porn is on the same level as violence. I would've thought that you were smart enough to figure that out without me spelling it out...ono Oh, and porn=/=sex

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah, but obviously a porn scene in a movie would be worse than a gun fight.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

As far as age ratings imply that is society's case I'm afraid.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Which one is virginity?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Humpty Dumpty

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I thought Humpty Dumpty was just about a giant egg?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

At what point is the word 'egg' used in humpty dumpty? The only reason eggs are linked with it is because of the obvious metaphor.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I had heard that the origins of Humpty Dumpty was as a nursery rhyme. After an adult told the rhyme, they would ask the kids what Humpty was, and the answer was an egg. But that's just what I've heard.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Ummm, Humpty Dumpty doesn't actually say anything about an egg anywhere in it. It's actually about a cannon. Just FYI.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Nursery rhymes are rhymes made by the people in about the middle ages, and it was their way to speak rebellion against their current leader. They sang it and taught it to their kids and that's how it got around, the only way they could speak out without being killed. Yes there is one about the plague, and surely one about taking virginity, but the point is most people, and basically no children don't know about that. Letting kids watch violence and things with a lot of graphic words and images can change them, double meanings can't.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

With the violent video games and movies it's obviously apparent that it's violent and the kids will often try to mimic the behaviors. With the nursery rhymes, it's not totally obvious. I mean, when I was a little kid, I had no idea what ring around the rosie was about.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But if you did you would try to mimic the plague? :L

by Anonymous 12 years ago