+428 If Voldemort had put all his effort into procuring some Felix Felicis (Liquid Luck) before battling Harry, instead of relying completely on the Elder Wand, we might have a very different story, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I knoow I thought this exact thing except my post said Harry should have taken it.. either way that would have been the best thing to do

by Anonymous 12 years ago

More or less exactly the same story, with a slightly different ending.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It wasn't luck at all, it was the fact that the Elder wand belonged to Harry and not Voldemort, so it wouldn't work against Harry. Unless you mean if he used a different wand.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah but you can't possibly lose, there is no way, when you drink Felix Felicis. Even though the wand didn't work very well for Voldemort, he still would have won if he'd drank it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Luck can only go so far...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Not with magical lucky... that can go as far as needed

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Magical lucky is the same as lucky. I'm pretty certain that in one of the books, someone says that luck can only go so far. It was Harry, I think.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's just magical lucky is guaranteed lucky and it could go far enough to help him win.. it's not that the elder wand doesn't work at all for him, it just doesn't work as well as it would if it were actually his

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No, it refused to work against it's owner, which was Harry. THAT'S why it didn't work. Luck wouldn't change wandlore.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Ollivander said that it wouldn't feel right to use, but not that it won't work at all.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That wasn't for the Elder wand, that was for Bellatrix's(I think; definitely not the Elder). The Elder wand is designed to win over the enemy, but it wouldn't work on it's owner because the wand prefers it's owner and won't be used against him.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Then how did Voldemort use it at all? He did cast a spell with it..

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yes, but not against Harry. Like you said, it'll work, just not against its owner.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

but at the end he did the Avada Kedavra thing he just got expelliarmus-ed by Harry

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah, because the wand wouldn't work for him against its owner, because it wouldn't cause harm to the owner, so it backfired on Voldemort.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't think this argument is getting anywhere... we need J. K. Rowling to clear it up, but you may be right.. I don't know.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Haha true. I think I'm right, but don't we all? xD

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Haha yeah well we might as well end it here, I don't think either of us will be changing the others mind

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Haha, probably not xD

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It wasn't anything better than his other wand for his powers. He even says that the magic he is able to perform is no different from before.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Alright, im gonna try settling this real fast. "Liquid luck" is clearly stated to INCREASE the drinkers luck for the time in which the amount they drank would allow. It does not guarantee a successful outcome. Now, that being said. Ollivander stated that one a wand was taken from its master it would serve its new owner. Bellatrix' wand wouldn't work correctly for Hermione because it wasn't taken by her. Also she wand is very resilient, that may atribbute to its lack of wanting to change owners as willingly. Draco's wand was described as reasonably pliant it could be bent to their will once it was taken. In terms of the elder wand it belonged to harry once he had disarmed Draco. Now the elder wand would then still cast spells like any ordinary wand in the hands of someone other then harry, though it could not kill him. He was able to be hit with the killing curse because he was part voldemort. The harry part survived because the wand wouldn't kill its' owner. Harry survived and went on to clash spells with voldemort. Voldemort could still cast his spells but it did not hit harry it only was directed. If it had hit him it would not have killed him. So "liquid luck", even with (cont.)

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I always wondered that! couldnt harry just have taken some of the liquid luck anywhere and gotten all the horcruxes in every place he looked??? It seems like finding some felix felicis would have been way easier...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

all i know is felix felicis is wicked hard to make and it takes like 6 months to brew so i just kinda assumed voldemort would have an easier time getting it..being all dark lordy and such. haha

by Anonymous 12 years ago

True true...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

And alas, we have a plot hole. If the Death Eaters just drank some Felix Felicis before every battle, Voldemort could've easily won.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

All they would've had to do is kidnap some potion makers, like they kidnapped Ollivander. I'm guessing Voldemort didn't think he needed luck to defeat Harry, he probably would've felt like less of a superpower if he used it. However, I agree with you, the Death Eaters definitely could've used it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

And the good guys could've used it too. I mean, if it worked so wonderfully during the battle on the astronomy tower, why not use it again?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Agreed. Slughorn should've made some secretly at Hogwarts. But I guess he wasn't brave enough to face the Carrows if he got caught.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But if he was caught with felix, he could just drink it. Or obliviate them.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Felix Felicis makes you lucky, not invincible. So that means that if Voldemort took Felix Felicis before trying to kill Harry with the Elder Wand, he would have had the "luck" of either not facing Harry at all or finding a different wand that works. So the answer to your question is yes, we would have had a different story.

by Anonymous 12 years ago