-145 All drugs should be legaI. Its not the governments place to tell its citizens what or what not they can ingest. Prohibition of of alcohol was a ridiculous exercise in futility. Just because cocaine, heroin, marijuana, or methamphetamine do not enjoy the same kind of support as alcohol or tobacco does not negate the rights of their users to consume them, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Meth fucks people up, bad. My brother lost his kids, my Dad was in jail my whole life because he stole to get money for drugs and threatened to kill someone, my aunt thought crickets were talking to her in Wal-mart and that dead people talk to her through the computer. My brother never got in so deep he went crazy, but he had violent fits of rage and so does my aunt, but worse. She punched my 13 year old cousin in the face and pushed her friends two year old into a TV. I know a kid named Stephen who is so emotionally unstable from smoking black tar heroine he started crying when his mom asked if they were out of icecream. Another named David who threatened to kill me becaus I laughed when he ate shit on his skateboard. Marijuana should be legal, it just makes you lazy and stupid when you're stoned, and for some people the long term effects are not having as good a memory, and makes some people unmotivated.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Add on, Stephen is in jail for robbing a gas station. (It was too late to edit) If people wanna fuck themselves up, whatever. When it affects other people, then no.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Did all of this seriously happen?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah... why would I make it up??

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Just read it. I see what you mean.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'd be worried for someone who doesn't cry when out of ice cream.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That's really not funny if you know that kid. Imagine if your mother did crazy stuff all the time and then someone came along and laughed.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

idc

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Your dad and Stephen wouldn't have had to steal if he weren't dealing with the artificially inflated prices of drugs. How often do you hear about people stealing money and things to buy cigarettes? You don't, and nicotine is more addictive than heroin. Alcohol also makes people have violent fits of rage and it lasts longer. Heroin by itself isn't too bad. Know what heroin is? It's diacetylmorphine. It's morphine that's had another few atoms added to the molecules. The body then breaks it back down into morphine. The real dangers of heroin are overdose and the shit it's adulterated with. If it were legal, adulterants would be completely eliminated and overdose frequency would plummet.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Heh, a "few atoms" can make a difference. Ethanol is mostly harmless, or at least you can legally buy some from a liquor store. But if you remove a couple of atoms it becomes methanol which even in small doses blinds or kills you.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Obviously, but that's not the point of my comment at all. Your response may be valid if I said diacetylmorhpine wasn't too harmful because of a few added atoms, but that's not what I said. I pointed out that it's a few added atoms, but it's not too harmful because it gets broken down back into morphine. Opiates really aren't all that bad.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The issue is not necessarily about the damage to the user from doing the drugs...it is more about the possible damage the user will do to others or him/herself while not in the "correct" state of mind. Now, I think it's debatable whether each specific drug will cause these damages, but the possible damage for each one should be taken into consideration before legalization.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What about the children that are forced to grow up around people abusing meth? Others actions hurt more than just themselves. Those children are going to grow up in an unstable condition and are going to have to face psychological problems for the rest of their lives.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What makes you think that a person willing to raise a child on meth will not do it because meth is illegal? It's bound to happen either way, but legalization makes things better for both parent and child. The mother won't have to struggle with money because she has to buy artificially expensive methamphetamine, won't risk losing her job, won't have to deal with health effects of potentially harmful adulterants, and will have to worry less about overdose because there won't be a question of the purity of the product she bought.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

(Not trying to start a huge debate) Just wanted to add that most overdoses aren't because of the purity of w/e it is the person is using. A lot of the time it's because you're body naturally builds tolerances against substances increasing the amount you have to use to get the same feelng. Then it ends up the person over estimates the amount to take and use to much which causes the overdose. Then there's always the chance they could vomit in their sleep if they pass out and choke to death if no one is watching to make sure they're ok.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's possible. Street drugs can be extremely impure. If someone gets a batch of heroin that is only 20% pure, then another that is 40% pure, they'd be doubling the dose that they took last time without knowing. There's a wide variety of factors.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Most of the drugs that are illegal are that way to prevent people from hurting others. Some people who get unlucky with the more dangerous drugs have bad trips, like the guy who took pcp and then gouged out his sons eyes and ate them. Or the guy who tripped on mushrooms and then killed his friend, cut out his heart and ate it. If drugs like that were legal they'd be easier to get and we'd have more instances of that kind. I know it's not common but if more people were doing the drugs then stuff like that is also bound to increase. It's easier to just make them illegal than it is for the police to respond to the potentially thousands of calls a week of people becoming violent and attacking others because they aren't in control of themselves.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What about the tens of thousands of people killed by people under the influence of alcohol? If drugs were legalized and people were actually informed about the truth, I'm sure the frequency of use would not increase at all. Go ask a bunch of random people if they would try drugs if they were legalized, not many would say yes. The fact is that the laws don't stop people from taking these drugs at all, it only makes it worlds more dangerous for them to. It's also definitely worth mentioning that if the drugs were legal and regulated, they'd be harder to obtain. Illegal drugs are easier to get than legal drugs like alcohol.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Alcohol was illegal, and it's still incredibly illegal to drive while drunk, public intoxication can also get you arrested and you even can get in trouble for having an open container of alcohol in public in certain states. Alcohol is legal because one beer or shot isn't likely to throw someone into a wild rage, where as one tablet of ecstacy can lead to someone dying. Also the fact that these drugs are illegal isn't stopping people from "knowing" the truth. Maybe my high school was different but in my health and science class we learned about what the more dangerous drugs can do to us and why it isn't safe to use them. Also laws don't "stop" anyone from doing anything. If someone wants to break a law they're going to do it regardless. Just because it's against the law isn't going to stop a bank robber. And besides, a drug being regulated won't make them harder to get. If the government started regulating the production of Meth, it isn't going to stop the people who cook it in their houses. As long as they can make even a little money they're going to do it. The only way the government could shut down other peoples production would to somehow shut down the sales of every ingredient

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The same laws about driving and public intoxication would surely cover any other drugs, too. That's not why alcohol is legal at all, alcohol is legal because people simply wouldn't let it stay that way. Organized crime opened up based almost solely on the fact that alcohol was illegal, and the Government decided it was too much trouble to deal with. Sadly, the same thing won't happen today with all the other drugs. A single tablet of MDMA isn't likely to do anything at all unless the person overheats, in which it's their fault. It's the same as someone drinking too much and aspirating on their vomit after they pass out. If you're going to use a substance, you should know the risks. Sounds like your high school was much different, it's incredibly rare I read or hear about legitimate drug information, and high school was definitely not one of them. EXACTLY! The law doesn't stop people who want to do it, it only makes it more dangerous for them. We need to regulate the drugs to make them safer. Regulating drugs definitely makes them harder to get. To purchase alcohol, someone at some point has to be of legal age and purchase from a licensed vendor.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

(continued) For illegal drugs, all you need is the money and you're set. There would be absolutely no market for an illegal drug trade anymore. Industries would be producing a superior, legal product that would cost a fraction of what illegal drugs would cost. It would literally halt every bit of illegal drug trading.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

You sir are an idiot who has see te effects of these drugs first hand or you are a psycho who wants to see the world go to hell.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

You are the idiot. You don't grasp the absolutely monumental positive effects that legalizing drugs would have on the world. You shouldn't speak because you obviously know nothing on the subject. I'm sorry I can't post a better comment, but repeating myself becomes tiring, and I've been working from the bottom of the page up. Go do some fucking research, your type of people are making this world a horrible place. The War on Drugs is a war on the people.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That's stupid. That's like saying that citizens should be able to talk on the phone while driving, because the government has no right to say when people can or can't talk on the phone. Those laws are in place for a reason--to save lives.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That's a total lie. Those laws are put in place because of the personal agendas of the Government officials. If saving lives had anything to do with it, don't you think that tobacco and alcohol (the number 1 and number 3 causes of death in the U.S.) would be illegal? It's all about a few people making money off everyone else and trying to control us.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I offer 3 choices to solve this dilemma. If you don't like how it's running then A) Call your city/state officials and try to do something about it, get some stuff placed on ballets. B) Move to a different country, try Canada or Europe. C) Get over it cause if you don't feel like making the difference than stop rallying people for a crusade you'll never actually start (see choice A). All these choices are reasonable, although I recommend A if you actually care about what you're saying.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Europe isn't a country, and Canada hasn't legalized any recreational drugs.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yah I knew i'd be off with Europe, I just named the first places that popped up in my head =P but still so many people don't like what our Government is doing yet they don't do anything about it and they don't go somewhere else.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well, it's kind of difficult to just move to another country. You need certain visas and etc. You can't just waltz on on out.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yah but it wouldn't take nearly as much time as people spend trashing the country they're in. I'll use a personal example. My brother says he hates living in America and he's almost 22. That's 4 years since he became an adult that he could have moved away, but he didn't and has never tried, he'd rather stay and complain like a majority of people do.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Most countries won't take him, unless he has something that can really benefit the country. They won't take people in just because.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah, sure. Let's legalize drunk driving while we're at it, because the government shouldn't be telling us when to drive. It's not what you do to yourself, its what you do to others, dumbass.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I l drugs.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

By that logic you can go on to say murder shouldn't be prohibited, it should be peoples' decisions. You need to draw the line somewhere - the laws are there for a reason.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't think they are quite the same. If other people could do drugs in a way that doesn't hurt anyone but themselves (which is hard to do with some drugs) it certainly wouldn't be the same as murder.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

(fEMMAnist):Yarp, I just assumed we had all agreed on the fact that drugs hurt people around the user as well as himself.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Not always. How would me using drugs in the privacy of my own home do damage to society?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What stops you from leaving your home?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I agree with Neighbor, unless someone is babysitting you then what's stopping you from wandering out of your home and maybe into the street and causing a car accident. I understand your point of being alone and not being a danger but the overall goal of these drugs being illegal is so you don't hurt yourself either. If you're alone in your home then no one can stop you from doing it, just don't get caught and it isn't a problem.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Making drugs illegal doesn't always decrease violence, addiction, or social problems that drugs create. A lot of times, it just puts a bunch of people in jail. Prohibition didn't work for alcohol; I don't see why it would work for anything else.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Only thing I could say is alcohol isn't as dangerous (yes I know thousands of people die all the time due to alcohol and I'm in no way saying it's absolutely safe) but 1 beer or even like 1 shot of liquor isn't going to mess someone up as badly as say like a small amount of meth. Also side note, alcohol isn't even completely legal today. You can still be arrested in a lot of places for having an open container or being drunk in public. I totally agree that drugs should be allowed but only if it's inside you're own home where no one else is in the way. If you're in your house alone hallucinating about fighting a dragon then good for you it sounds like a fun time. As long as it stays there. The only problem I have is if the person leaves the house and suddenly their adventure to slay the dragon ends up with their neighbor or random passer-by being the dragon (and I apologize for the dumb dragon usage, it was only way i could think of to describe it). As long as the only person who's day is affected is the person on the drug, then go wild.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I understand what you mean when you say that. Like, what gives these people the right to control us? But for this specifically I think they should be able to make these illegal. It's things like SOPA that they shouldn't be allowed to do. That purely comes down to money, who's going to miss out on money if there is illegal downloading and what not. When it comes to drugs, they are doing this for the better of civilization, and they should be focusing on this sort of thing, not censoring the internet.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Not entirely true. Many drugs were made illegal specifically because of the group of people they fell in with. Cannabis was made illegal because the Government said Russia was going to pacify us and take us over with it. Many other drugs were made illegal because people on them were harder to control than the "clean" people. A lot of the danger associated with them is bullshit or caused by the illegalization and unregulation of them.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Harder to control as in people on bad pcp trips who have been seen continuing to attack the police despite being shot multiple times and barely flinching, or the ones needing upwards of 5 people to restrain them safely? If that person was freaking out in their own home then I wouldn't see it as a problem cause they're only a danger to themselves but once it enters public domain they can be dangerous. I'd agree with you if the drugs were legal in private locations and there was precautions in place to make it safe for everyone else but the laws are more to prevent people from putting others in danger. There's always gonna be the people who will break a law because they don't care, but then there are also people who won't do something because it is illegal and that alone can stop a lot of people from becoming addicts.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Marijuana, yeah, should be legal. Every thing else? Fuck no. Heroin will fuck you up.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Heroin doesn't have many bad side-effects on it's own. Overdose and the stuff it's adulterated with are the biggest risks. The stuff they prescribe in pain medications are basically the same exact chemical as heroin. Guess what? All those adulterants would vanish if they sold it legally and it were produced by an official pharmaceutical company. I bet you didn't know that heroin was actually first synthesized by Bayer. They also have safe injection sites for people to go do the drug, and they've had not a single fatal overdose within the confines of these sites. The biggest danger factor about drugs that are illegal is that they are illegal.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I completely agree. If used in a way that doesn't negatively affect others, there shouldn't be an issue. The fact of that matter is that legal or not, people will still abuse substances. But people should have permission to screw themselves over it they choose to.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

America way too many people in jail: it has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Lots of those people don't deserve to be they and are just victims of the war on drugs. Putting fewer people in jail for drug use would be a good thing.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Everyone except the two people above me seem to be incredibly ignorant and far too emotionally driven. Legalizing drugs would be one of the best possible moves this country could feasibly make.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Portugal, Netherlands, and Canada have extremely lenient drug policies and all three sport extremely low OD amounts

by Anonymous 12 years ago

To sum it up, people who support drug legalization have legitimate and logical reasoning on their side and are willing to address the points of the opposition, and the people who oppose legalization scream "NO DRUGS ARE BAD" and respond to every point with "BUT I KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAD SOMETHING BAD HAPPEN SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID!" No matter what the debate, you can kinda tell the former won if this is how everything stacks up.

by Anonymous 12 years ago