It's disgusting that "pro-family" is a term used to identify homophobes, amirite?

Do people honestly say that? They might as well claim rapists are pro-fertility and robbers are simply attempting to stimulate the lagging economy.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

That is a perfect analogy.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'm going to use that in every day talk but I wont give you any credit for it. Not because you don't deserve it but if I tell people I heard it from a flying guinea pig I might get institutionalized.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yes people do. Like fore example there is a political party in Australia that is called "Family First" and it is extremely homophobic, they call themselves "pro-family" but really they are just pro-traditional family.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Jesus, it's amazing hard how people try to come up with prettier terms for "hate"

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I've never heard this hmm

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I hadn't either until today.There was an advertisement on the side of my news feed on Facebook and it said something like "Stand up and vote, be pro-family!" I figured it was something bigoted, so I looked it up and sure enough, it's a term for those against gay rights.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Oh, I see. Probably one of those things where they try to make it sound like a nice harmless thing, not preventing people from getting married. Still horrible though.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Exactly, like FlyingGuineaPig and AnneArky were saying, they're just trying to mask the fact that it's blind hatred by making it sound like a positive thing.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

http://profamily.com/ This isn't the exact site the ad took me to, but it's kind of the same idea. If I find the original site I saw, I'll link it too, but it was mostly just a couple buttons where you could vote for/against stuff. Here's another one: http://www.defendthefamily.com/ Ugh, it makes me sick. People like this are why everybody thinks all Christians are bigoted.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

One more thing: http://ctrlv.in/115768 Discuss.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'm not "pro-family", but youtube really shouldn't have banned it. whatever happened to freedom of speech on the Internet?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

What do you want them to do? Call themselves the anti-rights group? Their views may be ignorant, but it's stupid and unrealistic to expect them to give themselves something besides a positive-sounding name.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

They don't support gays so they are homophobes? I don't support gay rights, but I'm not a homophobe.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I understand that, and I totally respect everybody's opinion on the matter, but the fact that they're calling themselves "pro-family" as if it doesn't count as a family when the parents are gay is what makes it homphobic.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I don't support native american rights, but I'm not a racist either. (Sigh)

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Actually that's not how it works. Homphobia=hating gay people and wanting nothing to do with them, thinking it's disgusting, etc. Disagreeing with gay marriage=simply believing that //marriage// specifically should be between a man and a woman.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

theres a difference between opposing gay marriage and opposing gay rights. The latter implies also opposing gay adoption, civil unions, the belief that crimes against gays should be hate crimes, and so on.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I understand what you're saying. The way I see it, as you said, gays already have every basic right except for marriage, so if you oppose gay marriage, you oppose gays having //all// equal rights, so that's what I mean when I talk about gay "rights". I can't speak for anyone else though. --Hurray for run-on sentences!--

by Anonymous 11 years ago

sadly, your not familiar with utah. no civil unions, no gay adoptions... the governor doesnt think that hate crimes against gays should be hate crimes >.< i hate this state

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Oh. Well I don't think people take Utah seriously anyways.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

However, both are bad. "I'm not a homophobe, but I disagree with gay marriage" is like saying "I didn't shoot him in the face, I just shot him in the leg." The latter being better, but not that much better, than the former.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I feel like if you go out to specifically vote against gay marriage, you're a homophobe. Being against them is fine and your opinion, but to actually restrict them by law is a different story.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I think calling anyone that refers to themselves as 'pro-family' a homophobe may be crossing a line. Correct me if I'm wrong but an actual homophobe actively discriminates/bullies gay people... I feel like someone who's 'pro-family' uses that term because they believe in having a mother and a father figure, not because they hate homosexuals. I dunno

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I don't know. I think if you don't consider it a family when the parents are gay, that's discrimination against homosexuals. But it also has to do with the fact that everyone who calls themselves "pro-family" //is// homphobic. I've visited several "pro-family" websites, and all of them referred to homosexuality as a curse/disease/epidemic in one way or another.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

k, well, let's not generalize, homophobes aren't actually as rampant in society as people seem to think.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I never said they were, I was only talking about this specific group.

by Anonymous 11 years ago