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We have the Right to Life, but we don't really have the Right to Death. Amirite?
by Anonymous10 years ago
I would ask why not?
Who is to better to say that a person's life is intolerable than the person living it? And who has the right to take away what another person can do to with his/her life? I view it as a question of liberty.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I can see where you're coming from in terms of liberty
but my view and reply is similar to the ones I gave you on that post about the morality of drugs
by Anonymous10 years ago
I'm not quite sure if I understand the abstract meaning here. I don't really think that life is some privilege that we have the right to. Life... It's hard to describe. I guess it sort of just happens.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I don't think I should murder someone
that would infringe upon his/her Right to Life
I don't think I should murder myself
I don't have the Right to Death
murder means to take a life
to murder myself is just a longer way of saying suicide
and I wanted to keep the same pattern as the first part
murder others
murder myself
by Anonymous10 years ago
murder-
1. the unlawful premeditated killing of //one human being by another//.
2. kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
The (someone) implies someone other than yourself. Killing yourself is killing, but not quite murder.
by Anonymous10 years ago
it's done unlawfully with premeditation
I'm still someone
by Anonymous10 years ago
No, someone //else// as in not yourself.
"Under modern U.S. law, suicide is no longer a crime. Some states, however, classify attempted suicide as a criminal act, but prosecutions are rare, especially when the offender is terminally ill."
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Suicide
by Anonymous10 years ago
well of course they're not gonna prosecute when someone needs help
they allow that when someone murders others too
they plead insanity
by Anonymous10 years ago
To me, that seems to imply you are owned by someone else.
But it really doesn't matter because I could kill myself whenever and there's not a damn thing anyone could do about it. I could be dead within two minutes of almost any point in my day. It's not like anyone could punish me, either.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Medics may try to save you. And what about people who aren't capable of offing themselves? They can't very well ask someone else to do it.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Oh, I'm surprised you agreed. I don't mean that in a bad way.
I don't think medics could help. He made a comment about his plan.
Here it is: http://amirite.com/772533-you-arent-suicidal-but-youve-imagined-what-would-happen-if-you-did-and-how-you-would-do-it/1937461
Then again, living things are very resilient so you never know. I think it was Gage who survived a railroad pipe going through his head. Maybe a medic could help if the plan somehow failed.
Here's a picture of Phineas Gage and a image of the position of the pipe:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Phineas_Gage_Daguerreotype_WilgusPhoto2008-12-19_CroppedHeadOnly_Unretouched_BW.jpg.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Simulated_Connectivity_Damage_of_Phineas_Gage_vanHorn_ProbablePaths.jpg
by Anonymous10 years ago
Okay, yeah. Maybe not then.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I edited my comment.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Hehehe, Fuzala is quick on the draw. I was just about to explain why medics probably wouldn't help. I feel I have sort of an obligation not to commit suicide. I know enough about biology and chemistry that I'd be able to complete a suicide 99 times out of 100.
Honestly, it boggles my mind how almost everyone I know has attempted suicide and none of them succeeded.
On your other point, I don't think just because someone is unable to do something doesn't mean they don't have a right to it. People should have a right to try.
by Anonymous10 years ago
one of few reasons is that subconsciously
they don't really want to die
by Anonymous10 years ago
Oh, I was agreeing that this is how it //is//, **not** how it //should// be.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Oh, that is true. Okay. Now I'm not so surprised you agreed.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I agree, living things are very resilient on occasion. However, I don't believe certain things can't be survived through any amount of luck (short of the entire thing failing for some reason).
For example, I have the target portrayed in this video sitting in my room right now, plus another half pound target of the same material. I doubt I could possibly survive this going off next to my head. (video is pretty loud, watch your volume)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wbgCChhHFE
I hope to get rid of soon by actually using it as a target, but still, I have access to those targets pretty much whenever I want. They aren't all that expensive and no special check is required to buy them. Except maybe being over 18.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Wait didn't Phineas Gage survive?
by Anonymous10 years ago
He did survive.
I'm using his story to portray how resilient we are in reality.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Gotcha. I'm not sure that a single pipe and an explosion can really be compared equally though.
by Anonymous10 years ago
That's true, but I never would've guessed that Gage would survive. I wonder just how far some can go.
It's gonna vary from individual to individual. Right?
by Anonymous10 years ago
Well the incident didn't result in tremendous blood loss, stroke, or damage to a necessary part of the brain, so it's not horribly shocking that he survived.
Maybe to some extent. But I think that being entirely exploded will kill most people.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I think I've read somewhere that people have survived nuclear bombs. Don't remember the details though.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I think at the VERY LEAST I'd be knocked out. Being knocked out cold is vital to a few different methods. Another thing I've considered was overdosing on sedatives while laying face down in a bathtub or pool.
I could also shoot myself while in a vat of kerosene and have it rigged to ignite after I pulled the trigger. I've had success making a fuse with a solution of potassium nitrate and paper. That was unrelated, of course, but it's still useful.
by Anonymous10 years ago
is that painful?
or is it too fast to register?
by Anonymous10 years ago
It'd probably be painless, though slow. I'd try to hold myself out of the water, so I wouldn't start drowning until I pass out from the drugs.
For the other option, I'd either be unconscious or dead by the time I started burning. Kerosene isn't as volatile as gasoline and is surprisingly hard to ignite, so it wouldn't be ignited by the gunshot. If I was still conscious after one shot, I'd be able to fire again.
Very gruesome stuff, but I find it liberating to think about ways I could effectively kill myself.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I'm glad I'm too chicken to pull all that off
by Anonymous10 years ago
Suicide is not an act that is considered morally wrong, universally. It's a personal choice.
In terms of euthanasia, I think it should be.
by Anonymous10 years ago
indeed, we have the right to death. There have been many mysterious spiritualists who died(left their soul) by their wish. Only a transformed person(next to god) can do this. They do it after their purpose is fulfilled.
if it is about normal people like us, then i am not sure of it.
by Anonymous10 years ago
to clarify
I said "we" as in we the people
by Anonymous10 years ago
when i am sad, i feel like committing suicide. When i am happy, i fall in love with life.
In short, i do not have an answer.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I'm all for euthanasia. You should be allowed to commit suicide or ask to die. Free will.
by Anonymous10 years ago
When it comes to the discussion of any right, I think it's important to take a step back and define what //'the right'// to something means.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I think it's purely a question of religious and/or moral belief. Meaning that the person is harming no one but him/herself (assuming they use a non "messy" means). So for that matter, one ought to be allowed by society to decide for him or herself. Also we may not make it a requirement for doctors to distribute euthenasia, it would be left up to them whether or not they want to participate.
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