They probably could, but it would be very expensive, and inconvenient for most companoes to produce.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

I would think what our government wastes each and every year on trivials should take care of that problem...........

by Anonymous 10 years ago

one day it could be!

by Anonymous 10 years ago

It's really nothing to do with the material. The electronics of a black box are designed to withstand the sudden deceleration (g-forces) of a plane crash. A human body will never be able to.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

The box itself protects the contents within it (electronics). My point of course was to design a plane that could protect its contents (human passengers) in the same manner. I never inferred that a human body would be able to protect itself in such a manner.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Ok, then what would be the point? If you could make the body of the plane stay intact on impact, but the passengers would die from the sudden deceleration, what would you have? A neat container for corpses.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

OMG! I said plane that would protect the bodies of the passengers and keep the contents safe and alive! Are you reading my post and comments????

by Anonymous 9 years ago

I am, but you don't know what kills people in a plane crash. Going from 500 mph to 0 mph in a fraction of a second is the killer. Planes don't crush like Coke cans, squashing people.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

If scientists could build the black box to safely contain the contents regardless of any crash or explosion, they could factor in a plane's insides to accommodate such factors. We supposedly have the best scientists in the world and the brightest minds ever. You trust these same people with their explanations of every other facet of life, and yet you are doing nothing but throwing up reasons and objections why this could not be done. I find that very amazing.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

You're paranoid. Try blimp travel.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

perdix is "throwing up reasons and objections" because that's **how it is**. You can't just design a plane to be like a black box and magically make everything work so that it will protect the fragile human cargo aboard. Human bodies are **different** from cables and stacked memory boards. We require **different** methods to protect ourselves than the methods used for the stuff inside of a black box. "If scientists could build the black box to safely contain.... they could factor in a plane's insides to accommodate such factors." That's not how it works. And what the hell... you completely turned the post around just to discredit science because it hasn't (yet) figured out how to do something. "You trust these same people with their explanations of every other facet of life, and yet you are doing nothing but throwing up reasons and objections why this could not be done."

by Anonymous 9 years ago

As you said - "what the hell." I am amused that you have taken such offence to the entire notion of thinking outside the box and using a little creativity to entertain possibilities that have not yet been discovered or tackled. I thought science was "open" to any and all possibilities.................but you clearly say it does not work that way. It is amazing at what little it takes to piss off or rattle some people's comfort level. Sorry you feel so threatened by the concept or idea I presented.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Science is not a place where you lob random ideas and expect us to be blown away by them. You have to bring proof and data if you want other scientists to take you seriously. Lots of the ideas we accept now were originally rejected, but their proponents kept mounting up data and eventually became the dominant theories. You can't just fling out random ramblings about black-box planes and space grids and expect us all to clap like trained monkeys. You have to convince us that your ideas have merit with compelling data and not whining about us being close-minded.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

I did not ask anything of/from you. And are you trying to tell me that YOU are the scientific community? That is quite the stretch. Can you please provide proof and verification of such? I would love to see your credentials and published works. How many scientists do you think are spending time on Amirite? I am on here purely to express ideas and opinions - not to win awards or brownie points. The first step in any and all scientific processes is to ASK A QUESTION. Science starts with randomness all the time. They start with ideas that did not previously exist and then try to gather data and evidence to support or nullify their idea. That is basic and elementary. Surely you at least knew that much. Did you honestly take me to be that ignorant and/or foolish? What gave you the right or authority to try and shame my simple idea or comments? I don't believe I have seen a single creative suggestion by you since you have been commenting. Quite frankly, you have exactly ONE whole post to your credit. Very impressive. Questions are the creative juice or raw product necessary to finding and discovering new things. After asking a question, the scientist can make an observation. Then the gathering of information and research begins. Once there has been research, a hypothesis can be formulated. Next comes the testing and proving stage. And lastly, conclusions and analyzations are made/formed. I threw out a very open ended idea as a potential challenge and possibility to be developed. How the hell do you think we got to the moon? Did we have all the facts and data BEFORE going, or was much of it gathered and learned in the PROCESS? The shuttle is proof that a craft can be designed to accommodate the differences in various atmospheres, pressures, and temperatures. Impact or explosion is just one more variable. So yes, please clap like a monkey while I "whine" about trying to think creatively rather than like a trained drone to regurgitate boring meaningless drivel. And I do NOT have to convince you or anyone else of anything.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Ad hominem attacks? Delightful. I made a few suggestions about your space grid, but this one was just too silly. You do realize that the black-box plane is from a joke used by every nightclub comic in the 80's?

by Anonymous 9 years ago

"attacks" - very humorous. I am glad that my ideas "threaten" you to the point of potential harm.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

perdix has tried explaining several times how it works and you're just brushing it off as "reasons and objections." Do you really think someone in an aeronautical engineering department hasn't ever considered the feasibility of building a plane to work like a black box? That's the message I get from this post. //"It is almost as if the message is: the data in the box is more important and valuable than the passengers are."// What conspiracy theory are you trying to develop here? You also state: //"If scientists could build the black box to safely contain the contents regardless of any crash or explosion, they could factor in a plane's insides to accommodate such factors."// It's not as simple as just rearranging a whole plane's insides the same way as a black box.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

At least you understood what I was driving at and proposing. Yes, it does give the impression that the contents of the black box are MORE important than the passengers. You guys are both acting like cry babies who are unwilling to accept a difficult challenge to discover something NEW or different. After all, is that not what science is supposed to be engaged in? Technology is all about developing new and uncharted courses. You have both treated my question or idea as an ENEMY or something evil - when in fact, the different twist or spin on something should be embraced and welcomed. For you to even suggest that I am seeking to develop or purport a conspiracy theory or agenda shows how narrow and shallow people have become. And who ever said anything about something being "simple?" I suggest you and Perdix put on your big boy pants and get over yourselves!

by Anonymous 9 years ago

"You guys are both acting like cry babies..." says the guy who whines every time people downvote or disagree with his posts/comments. Science is not quite as trivial as just discovering NEW or different things. It's about testing those things and challenging them, kinda like what we're doing here. Everything you're accusing us of (treating your post as EVIL or whatever) is exactly what you're doing with our comments. And it doesn't really surprise me as it seems that you do this type of thing often. On a final note, it's no wonder people block you; you're impossible to argue with. No matter what the evidence provided or how many people disagree with you, there's never any sign of you considering their point. You argue by derailing and changing subject to the point that the whole debate just becomes a chaotic mess of tl;dr comments. Perhaps if you shortened your messages and kept to a single subject at a time, your points would be conveyed more clearly. I say that because they never seem to get across to anyone nor do you seem to ever understand anyone else's point. I don't know what to tell you there. Now before you say, "but you're the one changing the subject!!" I'm aware of that but these things needed to be said. I'm done with the stupid science argument. I don't really give a shit about planes being turned into black boxes but you just can't let anything go. That's the trend that revolves around most of your posts and comments. People disagree > You become offended and fight back > They counter your arguments > You pick and choose which of their points to attack, twisting the subject a bit > Five rounds of commenting later and they give up because they've realized there's no point in arguing with a 55 year old brick wall. The End.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Yeah, I got bored of the s... and moved on. A real debate would have interested me, but a p...ing contest did not.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Haha.........whines EVERY time someone down votes me??? You have become delusional. I dealt with that way back down the road and have not brought it up ever again. The fact that you are using it against me now incriminates yourself and is classless. If I believed for one second that you or anyone else on this site was a bona fide professional scientist, then I might consider taking some of the science talk a bit more seriously. But you and everyone else on here (myself included) are simply "arm chair" scientists. We know what we know from our own reading and education. You somehow think that you have more of a right and exclusive on science than I do, and I disagree 100%. Many of you think because you disagree with or insult me that I am supposed to shut up and run to my corner and cry. But I don't roll over just because you say words that are different from mine. Why should I? If you have a right to your words and opinions, I have the exact same thing. And I clearly oppose the common context of this present culture that says unless you conform to popular opinion, you are a crazed intellectual midget! How would you KNOW that people block me? And even if they do or did, what does that have to do with anything? All it tells me is that they can't hold their own in a word exchange. If you (or anyone else) can't stand on your own 2 feet and support every view or opinion you hold, then I suggest getting more grounded or stop talking to others. In case you have not noticed, there are very few actual users on this site. Most of the voting occurs among the same very small circle of people, and fewer still bother to engage in comments, discussions, debate, or intelligent dialogue. Many of the "users" are fakes - they have no bio and just "joined" a day or hours ago. Accounts are being created regularly just so someone can duplicate themselves and comment. Most of these "new users" never even make posts, so I take no stock whatsoever in the validity or seriousness of such "people." I am glad you are "done" with stupid science. I was done with science long long ago. I take shots at it regularly because I don't believe for a moment that it is the "know all" that it wants everyone to believe. I do not look to it for my security or comfort in life. Every person I have ever debated with on this site does exactly what you say I do. I have made many points in arguments that never get responded to or addressed. All humans are selective and have a predisposition to all things they approach. I KNOW that and am big enough to admit and acknowledge such. But so many people never realize or admit it, and refuse to admit that every thought process has its weaknesses and breakdown points. Sorry I don't fit the mold of your expectations or idea of what a 55 year old ought to look like. At least you have learned I am not a patsy or a pushover, and unless you can prove me wrong clearly with sound irrefutable evidence, then I see no need to change my views or opinions. If a person thinks I should change just because they SAY something, well, that is not good enough for me. I have read many "experts" on many topics, so I have thought out most things from much greater input than I get from people on the street. I read constantly and challenge myself to learn new things. And hearing opposing views does not slight me in any way. Diversity is a necessary part of the entire process. I am willing to see your view in your way - but I do not have to make it my view or support it to be a reasonable or decent person. The Beginning......................

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Thank you for proving my point.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

And you for proving mine...........

by Anonymous 9 years ago

I don't mean to be rude or anything, but maybe you should take some of the content as advice (look at the bright side) and not as offensive sometimes after I feel butt-hurt I realize that the person is actually on to something I'm not saying you have to bend to people's wishes but being a little more flexible for your own well being could be beneficial I'm not saying all of you in this comment thread are innocent (because we're all guilty of insults and pettiness) but some people insult and go off topic more than others it's better to acknowledge this than it is to lash out because of feelings of butt-hurtness (._.) (I can relate to this, but I'm trying to improve) I'm trying to be as respectful as I can with all this because I know how sensitive these kinds of things can be (we are sensitive creatures after all)

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Thanks mom.............my heart went pitty pat. You tried but I am that wayward son you won't be able to reach. I am as tolerant as you or anyone else on this sight, and I have my own views and opinions - as do you and everyone else. The difference may be that I am not ashamed of my views, and I know why I hold to what I do. You and I had our run ins early on, and I do not wish to engage your views because I know where you stand and I can leave it right there. Many people today think that if you do not fall in complete step with their views or opinions about any or most issues, then there must be something "wrong" with you. It has become the modern day form of bullying, and quite frankly, I detest such. As far as I am concerned, every person should be individual enough to know what they believe, and WHY they believe it. Just because my every thought or idea is not in line or step with the next person's does not make me any more or less of a person. And it has nothing to do with my lack of intelligence. It just so happens to be where I am at at this particular point and time in my life. I am willing to expose myself regularly in my comments. With that comes a vulnerability and the opportunity for others to SEE exactly what makes me tick and how I am wired. Many people play games with their words and beliefs, and never allow others to SEE who and what they truly are. If you notice, not many people go in to great detail to explain themselves. I do, and get blamed for "rambling" or "going off topic." Whatever others think or feel is not my fault. I am who I am - nothing more, nothing less. Any time I challenge someone's thoughts or comments, it is with the intent to try and learn where they are "coming from." Sometimes I never learn that. I always do my best to show others where I am coming from. I never ask that they agree with or become just like me or else. As long as each and every person is happy with what they are believing and their view of the world, then that is what they have to live and die with/by. I would hope that every person on this site would allow and hope the exact same thing for me. I don't need lessons in how to think or what to think. I don't need to be put down because my views or opinions may not be mainstream. I would hope that others would try to understand where I am coming from just as much as I try towards them. If not, then my attitude is - "oh well." Either they will get over it and get on with life or they won't. But I will continue being who and what I am - true to self.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

And I am quite sure you will say this comment was a "lashing out" over "butt-hurtedness" when in reality, I just expressed myself in detail about why I do what I do.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

1) I said nothing about tolerance 2) if you don't wish to engage my views, then you should not have mentioned my user name in the explanation on that post 3) I will continue to express my views. Don't like it? Then, block me. Problem solved. Otherwise, I will continue to express "free speech" 4) No one said "Don't express your thoughts" 5) No one said "You must change your thoughts" 6) You're responding in this way despite me saying that I'm trying to be sensitive as well as respectful 7) All people said was "understand what I am saying" The reason being is that you reply with things that don't really relate to what they're saying. You reply with something that avoids the main topic and goes off in other directions. This makes things confusing and makes it harder for others to understand. I'm not saying this is all the time, but it's often enough. *Note: Understanding something doesn't mean you agree with that something. Understanding something allows for smooth discussion. And you're welcome. It's fun having a son who is 35 years older than me.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

And I will continue doing the exact same thing. I ONLY mentioned the username because I knew you were a Muslim and the special was about that. I thought you might have an open enough mind to watch something like that and maybe actually learn something by/from it. Obviously, I was wrong. And I had you blocked for months and just unblocked you. You KNOW that, so making a blocking comment seems a bit curious. I won't be blocking any more, because there is nothing you could say that would hurt or damage me. We both know what you did to me, and you were caught red handed. You might want to tone down your haughtiness just a tad in light of that incident. And if I actually do what you say in #7, then my best guess is that people would leave me be and stop commenting on my posts or comments. If I am a lousy debater, off topic, and clueless, then why the hell would anyone waste time reading or responding to anything I could possibly say? Oops, guess I just went off topic. I am so confusing that people like you just have to read my every word and quote me being off topic, illogical, a wee bit ignorant, and clearly unscientific! Amazing. To hear some of the comments, I would probably be better off in a nursing home on high dosages of narcotics just to keep me quiet. A semi-coma like state would probably do me well. Oops, there I go again! If people don't get my sarcastic cynicism towards a very screwed up world with all of its inconsistent hypocrisies, then that is ok by me. But I have as much right to any view that I hold as do you or anyone else. Somehow people think it is their job to change your views to fit their own, and I don't buy in to that. If my comments are mistaken as trying to change anyone, that is simply a problem in communication. I am not trying to change anyone. If people want to eat feces, go for it. I don't care what others do or think, but I will always express my opinions about such. Just because I comment about things or poke fun of things I see as "ignorant," does not mean I am trying to change them. Very few people ever change anything in or about their lives unless they consciously make a decision to do so. And don't let the "son" thing go to your head. It was all in jest.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

You're still missing the point. It's //you// who lashes out against others with opposing views. In turn, this leads them to lash back. I mean if you don't intend to offend anyone when you make belittling, passive-aggressive remarks, then sorry we misinterpreted your comments. But that's definitely the message everyone is getting when they try to debate with you. //You// start the belittling and so that's what you get in return. //You// set the negative tone, so don't be surprised when you get it back.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Wow - now I have a dad and a mom on this site! Cool. Sounds like me, me, and more me. And yet, plenty of you continue wanting to talk to me.................interesting.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

I wasn't even being haughty I even commented how I'm trying to improve and how I'm guilty etc. you act as if I put it all on you I already know I'm flawed plus arrogance is sinful .................................................................................... it's kinda fun to see what will happen next you're not the only one who wants to learn I've heard of people like you but I've never actually interacted with someone like you so it makes sense that I keep wanting to talk to you .................................................................................... " I ONLY mentioned the username because I knew you were a Muslim and the special was about that. I thought you might have an open enough mind to watch something like that and maybe actually learn something by/from it." actually you already said I wasn't all that open minded as I want people to think so are you contradicting yourself? and you made that post while I was blocked so how am I supposed to watch something I wasn't aware of? and it's not like I haven't watched debates about Muslims before and lastly there ya go again making assumptions and claiming I'm the one who's not open minded enough I'm pretty sure you're not a mind reader nor can you see into my intentions I didn't even call you names like ignorant, illogical, etc. so why are you talking about those terms? you're overly suspicious in a lot of cases you read things "in between the lines" when there is nothing there I already knew it was a jest but the whole son thing has already gotten to me I remember that you let me name you and I named you Amir http://amirite.com/760581-lets-settle-this-once-and-for-all---jay-z-beyonces-trip-to-cuba/1920247-- boy does time fly I'm just reading through that old post and remembering the good old days

by Anonymous 9 years ago

"you've heard of people like me"................LOL That is a wide open comment. Did your mother warn you to stay away from guys like me? Rather than take you to task line by line, word for word, or point by point, I have reached a place where I just want to abide ON and IN the same space/location you do without a head butting or pissing contest. We obviously have clashing personalities and are both extremely opinionated. I do not blame you for who or what you are, and I only ask that I be given equal consideration. Our debates somehow usually turn in to non-productive "who is more right" contests, and that is why I stopped all contact. Every human being on the planet makes assumptions and draws conclusions based on the programming they have been handed throughout their lifetime. No two people see "eye to eye" 100% on any issue or thought - nor should they. The goal in life is not to create clones who mindlessly parrot the thoughts and ideas of others. I purposely take ideas and thoughts that are prevalent and look for ways to challenge and question them. I do not believe we were born to accept our "lot in life" just because. Much of what most people do or believe is purely because it was always done that way. Parents regularly try to live vicariously through their children and impose their wishes and wills upon them by insisting that they believe a certain way or pursue a specific career. Many are completely comfortable and content with this process, but I never have been. I have always asked the hard questions and challenged the status quo. I accept nothing at face value, and believe nothing just because it is a certain way or always has been. You may truly have an "open" mind, but when it comes to arguments or debates, all claimed openness is irrelevant. Nobody debates in an open mind context. People rely on their pre-selected data to make statements and points that have come to suit their purposes and positions in life. We do our best to "defend" our position or views because after all, they are OURS. You or me are not exceptions. And the process of challenging or engaging the various viewpoints or beliefs of others is NOT the enemy or wrong - for within that context and framework, we are all pushed to re-examine and solidify our own rationale and reason for existence. The wrong and damage comes when we try to force or impose our points of view or opinions on others as being the ONLY way. I admit that I do argue from a biased mindset, but I KNOW everyone does, so my views or opinions could not possibly be any worse than any others I encounter along the way. And I also KNOW that all people are a work in progress - each struggling and grasping to find their way through this maze we call life. If I happen to bump in to a few people throughout my journey that I can't seem to reason with or understand, that is perfectly fine. I don't know anyone who gets along with or relates well to EVERYONE. I know of no law or rule that says I must be friends or get along with all people I encounter. The term "friend" and "best friend" designate degrees and levels of likability and common ground. Obviously, some people are NOT best friends or even decent acquaintances - they are on our list of "doesn't play well with others." I am sure this comment will go down in Amirite history as the biggest ramble ever put in print, but I am at least providing you "insight" in to my inner workings and thought processes. If that makes me the oddest ball out there, then so be it. I live an extremely transparent life, and being open about feelings or ideas is all fair game in my world. Should someone come along and not like or agree with my world, then they have the luxury of finding others who will better suit their needs or purposes. If you personally do not like or agree with my style or approach to logic, reasoning, focus, or thought interpretation, then please steer clear of me and my disappointing ways. I am not intentionally going out of my way to make enemies or being labelled as a complete jerk, but some will think such things about others just because they can and will. I make no excuses for them. My job is to be me - not the me that you or others think or believe I should be. I can accept the me that I am. Can you?

by Anonymous 9 years ago

she didn't warn me people just talk about their experiences that's all actually I'm not opinionated I've changed my opinions multiple times because someone(s) presented an argument I never encountered before no, I don't completely accept that I'm me I see certain flaws and follow "always room for improvement" I used to be hyper sensitive to insults I found that unacceptable because it made life tougher I am now semi sensitive and I think I get better at not taking insults to heart every month which means I get offended less meaning fewer incidences of reacting to the offense in a butthurt manner meaning less petty fights meaning a happier, healthier fuzala

by Anonymous 9 years ago

That's funny... if we're the parents, what's that make you? The stubborn, know-it-all teenager?

by Anonymous 9 years ago

Bottom line: Don't argue with freespeechfreelancer. He always wins.

by Anonymous 9 years ago

actually I'm always right and everyone else is always wrong which means I win

by Anonymous 9 years ago

I award you the victory! You didn't even have to mention airplanes. Very impressive win!

by Anonymous 9 years ago