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The "gather step" has bastardized basketball, amirite?
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'm not into sports at all honestly, but every time I see basketball highlights, I always think "Isn't that traveling"! They take like 3 steps before shooting
by anna051 week ago
Yes, you're allowed a gather and two steps... So three is what they do every play. Why would you take less when three is allowed?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Just said I'm not into sports, just saw this on my home page, and when I played in school 2 steps was the max? Sorry my knowledge wasn't up to speed for you?
by anna051 week ago
I challenge you to go pick 3 random highlights right now and see if there is a possible travel happening.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Is there a way to view "random highlights?" Because that would be pretty cool. Don't think it's possible though.
by Appropriate-Fold57661 week ago
Just go to espn or NBA.com, first three clips you see, gentleman's wager that traveling is not an issue in any of the three.
by Anonymous1 week ago
It is still cut and dry old heads and casual fans are just in denial about the rules
by Anonymous1 week ago
Nah, we know the rules. Refs let too much go these days. Used to be you couldn't have the ball parallel to your hand or it was traveling.
by Anonymous1 week ago
You are all proving my point. There is no debate among people that actually watch basketball. Just casuals and people that haven't watched in decades that feel the need to have their decade old understanding of the rules validated. Sorry to break it to you but times have changed old man. It's legal now. Harden made sure we'll never go back either.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Enjoy your traveling show then.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Which one? Is it the first, second, third, or fourth gather that upsets you.
by Most-Mammoth1 week ago
I still can't get used to it. Every time I watch a game somebody takes that fourth step and my response is to call it a travel. Some players pick up the ball close to the 3-point line and walk straight to the basket!
by Anonymous1 week ago
It's not just you being an old head. They never care about traveling or double dribbling anymore and it sucks.
by Anonymous1 week ago
The amount of carrying annoys me way more. So many young guys basically cup the ball in their hands while theyre dribbling. I dont see a ton of gather steps to be honest but as a good defender even when people do try to pull it off good horizontal movement negates it against basically every player.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'm more accepting of that. It can get out of hand, but it's such a grey rule as it is. Counting 2 steps should be simple
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'm around the same age as you, even played some college basketball (not to an extent worth bragging about or anything). I grew up loving the NBA and watching guards who I would try to incorporate into my game: Iverson, Payton, Nash mostly. I still try to play once a week as means of getting a good cardio workout and as a way to hang with my buddies. But man, I have zero intererst in NBA basketball anymore. Growing up it was my absolute #1 no questions asked; now it is considerably behind NFL, College Football, NHL, and College Basketball in terms of my interest.
by Leading-Flamingo-241 week ago
I like the nba still. It's entertainment and the skill and athleticism really is amazing
by Anonymous1 week ago
I definitely agree with the skill and athleticism being better than ever. But there was just a certain something that I used to love about it that I don't feel anymore. I think it was the level of hate and animosity amongst a variety of characters, such as: Rodman, Mason, Oakley, Chuck, Maxwell, McDaniel, Payton. They just all seemed more badass before.
by Leading-Flamingo-241 week ago
Just cut out dribbling completely, let's turn it into rugby with hoops.
by Cali001 week ago
Take it one step further and let them fly around on broomsticks
by hilma571 week ago
They have that, it's called Rugball and it's insane.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Haha I like the euro step. Just pull it off in 2 steps and it's more impressive.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Well the euro step is still a 2 step but with a sideway hop.
by Anonymous1 week ago
More entertainment than sport now. But that's understandable. It's a product.
by Tatyanaparker1 week ago
Do you like James Harden stepback three?
by Anonymous1 week ago
No but it's not his fault. He's just using the rules to his advantage, and sometimes they could still call it on him if they wanted to
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yeah funnily enough most people realize that it's ridiculous. I remember back then Curry tried to do the same and get called and he's laughing his ass off. In the following week Harden also gets called and I think nobody does it now. Which is weird because it's basically the same as what they do on layup or dunk. Gather step into 2 steps. The stepback just looks more ridiculous and uncool which is why they called it.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Watching good defense force a travel is great. You also have freaks like Giannis able to traverse the free throw line with a eurostep. I definitely want more rules in place to empower the defense. At least it's not 2022 where players could just run into the defense and draw a foul.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I agree that the gather step has gotten out of control. See Giannis three and four step euros. Even worse, IMO, is that defenders are no longer allowed legal guarding position in the NBA. Defenders can be in position the offensive player initiates contact, and it's always a foul on the defender.
by Weary-March50701 week ago
In their defense they've acknowledged that and are trying to change it.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Nothing has changed with that for sooo freaking long.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yeah, once the James Harden style of offense (and defense) became the norm, I checked out.
by Ulices881 week ago
The NBA has been unwatchable for years.
by Jacobscory1 week ago
What about carrying it over
by Anonymous1 week ago
This needs to be a popular opinion
by Qlegros1 week ago
allow a player lift their pivot foot for a "step through" as long as they're shoot it right after. Sorry OP, but this has never been against the rules. Lifting your pivot foot was never a travel, and anyone who ever says it is a travel doesn't know ball.
by Key_Inspection1 week ago
Facts. Go watch Jalen Brunson highlights if you need a lesson on footwork. Step through does not equal travel.
by Anonymous1 week ago
It's odd they don't call traveling. They call every damn thing else.
by Anonymous1 week ago
All teams have offensive players, and so the rule changes equally affect all teams. There has been a discussion about the ridiculous level of offense this season, and perhaps that will prompt the NBA to make further tweaks.
by Anonymous1 week ago
When I played, you couldn't pick up your pivot foot unless you were shooting. You couldn't take more than one step unless you were shooting. Some of the stuff they get away with now is ridiculous.
by Anonymous1 week ago
For me it's all the defensive foul calls. If a team actually plays defense, the game becomes a free throw competition.
by Metzkeara1 week ago
I absolutely agree. I'm close to your age, so maybe that's a factor, but it is just so obvious, it seems wrong. One of the pivotal (in my opinion) rules of the game just gets ignored. That's why, aside from playoffs, I prefer European basketball.
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