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There is nothing wrong in wanting a virgin, amirite?
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
There is nothing wrong with having that preference. Just as there is nothing wrong with people not dating you over that preference.
by Anonymous1 week ago
The taboo is wanting a partner less experienced than you because it is indistinguishable from searching for a partner you can shape and manipulate as you want.
by Anonymous1 week ago
it's glaringly obvious from your attitude
by Anonymous1 week ago
You are assuming a lot of things. I can assume a lot of things too
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
You presented a preference for height and sexual experience as morally equivalent.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Slap me in the face if I said it's morally equivalent ever
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
You presented women having a preference for height as not being taboo as a reason that desiring a virgin should not be taboo. This is a claim of moral equivalence.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Then you should not date him. Lol
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
Absolutely nothing wrong in having a preference, however what happens to your preferred choice the second you have sex with them? Do you suddenly reject them because they are no longer a virgin? Would you expect the virgins you prefer to also want you to be a virgin or is that not an issue?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Do you suddenly reject them because they are no longer a virgin? Depends Would you expect the virgins you prefer to also want you to be a virgin or is that not an issue No I don't see that as an issue.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
Do you suddenly reject them because they are no longer a virgin? Depends Depends? On what? If you only have a preference for virgins and dump them as soon as you have sex with them (because they are no longer virgin) then you will have a very single life with never having a long term relationship.
by Anonymous1 week ago
The question was "depends on what?"
by Anonymous1 week ago
I don't said that I will have fun with virgins and dump them you are countering a strawman mate.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
I'm not countering anything. I asked a question. A question that is still unanswered. ... What does it depend on?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Depends?? So you're gonna spend your life searching for and leaving virgins? Classy
by Swimming_Criticism811 week ago
It would make more sense if those men were virgins too, at the very least it wouldn't be hypocritical
by Anissa871 week ago
Hypocrisy can also be seen in short women wanting tall men.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
This.
by Safe-Tumbleweed1 week ago
Everyone has preferences is for things like tall or blonde or likes football. The "preference" for virginity ain't that. It's either some weird purity obsession, an insecurity about being compared to literally any other man, or some combination of the two.
by Anonymous1 week ago
So women wanting tall is an indication that women are insecure about their height so they are coping by getting a tall partner?
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
you really can't handle any criticism of your argument without saying "uhhh but but women!! "
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'm sure there's some women out there who are insecure about their height and so avoid dating men shorter than them, yeah.
by Anonymous1 week ago
You keep mention fallacies and don't realize that you referencing women wanting tall men is absolutely not an equal comparison in any way.
by Interesting-Bet-75921 week ago
It's the same because I am saying men wanting virgin women is a preference. The same way women wanting tall men is a preference.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
you can want what you want but don't cry when you get nothing.
by sharon541 week ago
Men should be virgins too then too then.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I said about mens preference not women's.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
men and women are the same.
by Careful_Sherbert91331 week ago
Yeah I agree. Men and women are equal
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
I am saying if a non virgin guy wants a virgin girl then it's his choice and preference and he should be called badly for that. If virgin women don't want him they can reject him lol
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
if a non virgin man (not guy) wants a virgin woman (not girl), he does not view men and women as equal and should definitely be called out for it.
by Careful_Sherbert91331 week ago
does not view men and women as equal Slap me in the face if I said that
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
you don't have to say it. it's a logical consequence of wanting a virgin woman. why does he want a virgin woman? because he thinks women sleeping around has different moral implications than a man sleeping around. that means he doesn't view men and women as equal. it's always the most toxic sexist dudes who scream about wanting a logical response but can't fathom basic logic. i feel so bad for your mom - don't know how much misogyny you've seen her experience for you to hold such views.
by Careful_Sherbert91331 week ago
Men stay tall the whole time though. A virgin is only a virgin once. Seems like a weird thing to seek out seeing as it's so fleeting.
by Swimming_Criticism811 week ago
Username checks out
by Prudent_Emergency2701 week ago
Ad hominem logical fallacy
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
Dude, go outside and touch some grass.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Ad hominem logical fallacy again.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
No, it's a direct insult. This is not being used as an argument. It is a direct insult.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Ok I see you can insult me lol you can't logically counter my argument
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
Fallacy fallacy
by Prudent_Emergency2701 week ago
If you want someone inexperienced because you are inexperienced and unsure of yourself it's fine. Cute even. Any other reason is weird. And no, it's not comparable to height, you psycho.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Absolutely
by Anonymous1 week ago
What about someone inexperienced who wants someone experienced? That's comparable directly. Are they also weird?
by Anonymous1 week ago
No, that's not weird. Do you think I'm contradictory? Go ahead, tell me how contradictory I am
by Anonymous1 week ago
You seem defensive, I was asking you a question. The two examples are just reverses of each other, why is one bad but the other isn't? Your assumption is that the original always has malicious intent behind it therefore it is evil, that's not the case.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Is anticipating your meaning defensiveness? No. You're just predictable.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Any other reason is weird. And no, it's not comparable to height, you psycho. It is comparable to height and insulting me not logically responding my argument doesn't help
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
You didn't make an argument and I didn't respond with logic. You justified your predation and I called you what you are.
by Anonymous1 week ago
You seem really fixated on women wanting tall men - are you short? Either way, height is not a proxy for life experience, so desiring partners of a particular height range is not considered as needing scrutiny the way desiring a virgin partner is.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Care to explain why?
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
Explain why height is not a proxy for life experience?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Definitely under 5'6
by Swimming_Criticism811 week ago
Very clear from OPs replies is he's short and lashing out
by Anonymous1 week ago
As a virgin I don't get what the obsession with virginity is and I've never understood it but it's talked about a lot online for some reason
by Anonymous1 week ago
You should slap me in the face if I ever said obsession. I said preference.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
I didn't say I was going to slap you, or anyone, or that you said it was an obsession so cut the dramatics. What I said is that I've noticed, at least online, virginity is obsessed about
by Anonymous1 week ago
It's a preference.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
It more like wanting a fresh law graduate over a 20 year practising one that has literally never won someone's case.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Dude talking about fallacies, criticizing others for using personal insults instead of arguments and then using personal insults yourself does not make you look very smart, and that's not an insult it's more of me trying to help you out. If you didn't get my previous analogy's I'll elaborate: Women aren't just a hole to thrust into until you bust, having sex with another person is a skill and much like all other skills the only way to get better is to practice. With this said, a virgin isn't going to be a great lay much like how I'll probably suck ass at tennis if I ever decide to try it.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Women don't like tall men because they're insecure about their height. Short girls aren't really insecure about their height. I've mostly seen tall women self conscious about their height.
by Swimming_Criticism811 week ago
I'd say I can see through this to what you're actually insecure about, but maybe I should say I can see over it.
by Anonymous1 week ago
🙄
by Anonymous1 week ago
?
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
I think it depends on the reason they want a virgin. A voluntarily virgin man or woman is allowed to have that preference, of course. But the moment it becomes more than a preference, and becomes the moral evaluation of a woman or a man, you are heading into creepy purity culture that is incredibly dehumanizing.
by jordanerempel1 week ago
Everyone is allowed to have a preference as long as it's legal and consensual. And I don't see how wanting a virgin is dehumanising
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
Read what I wrote once more, dude. I said the moral evaluation of people based on it is dehumanizing.
by jordanerempel1 week ago
But for a lot of people who want virgins, that is the case. They evaluate their partner's worth as a human being based on a thin patch of tissue. Not saying that's you. But for a lot of people, it is like that, which should be discouraged.
by jordanerempel1 week ago
Then say that to them.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
That's your opinion
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
Creepy
by TechnicalDecision2911 week ago
Ad hominem logical fallacy.
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
That just makes you sound more terminally online
by TechnicalDecision2911 week ago
Yuck
by Anonymous1 week ago
The reason it's seen as wrong is because people will refuse to date someone if they aren't a virgin, and they often think their partner is no good when they're not a virgin. If you want someone who doesn't have experience, that's fine. But a lot of people make it extremely uncomfortable for the other party, and their needs are important.
by Anonymous1 week ago
The problem is your absence of logic here, it's respected or even required for marriage in many cultural circles that men "want a virgin" (I hope I don't need to explain that virginity is a mythical concept with little to zero basis in reality), but you try to make it seem as if it's something that is universally frowned upon as much as you want to make it seem as if women wanting to date tall men is a universally accepted cultural practice. Neither is the case, so this is just ridiculous. This is not an opinion this is the scream of a toddler.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Consent is necessary so idk what you are talking about?
by Substantial_Lead1 week ago
are you also a virgin? it's not fair to want the other person to be a virgin if you're not.
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