+38 There is nothing wrong in wanting a virgin, amirite?

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

There is nothing wrong with having that preference. Just as there is nothing wrong with people not dating you over that preference.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The taboo is wanting a partner less experienced than you because it is indistinguishable from searching for a partner you can shape and manipulate as you want.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

it's glaringly obvious from your attitude

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You are assuming a lot of things. I can assume a lot of things too

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

You presented a preference for height and sexual experience as morally equivalent.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Slap me in the face if I said it's morally equivalent ever

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

You presented women having a preference for height as not being taboo as a reason that desiring a virgin should not be taboo. This is a claim of moral equivalence.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Then you should not date him. Lol

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

Absolutely nothing wrong in having a preference, however what happens to your preferred choice the second you have sex with them? Do you suddenly reject them because they are no longer a virgin? Would you expect the virgins you prefer to also want you to be a virgin or is that not an issue?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Do you suddenly reject them because they are no longer a virgin? Depends Would you expect the virgins you prefer to also want you to be a virgin or is that not an issue No I don't see that as an issue.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

Do you suddenly reject them because they are no longer a virgin? Depends Depends? On what? If you only have a preference for virgins and dump them as soon as you have sex with them (because they are no longer virgin) then you will have a very single life with never having a long term relationship.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The question was "depends on what?"

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I don't said that I will have fun with virgins and dump them you are countering a strawman mate.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

I'm not countering anything. I asked a question. A question that is still unanswered. ... What does it depend on?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Depends?? So you're gonna spend your life searching for and leaving virgins? Classy

by Swimming_Criticism81 1 week ago

It would make more sense if those men were virgins too, at the very least it wouldn't be hypocritical

by Anissa87 1 week ago

Hypocrisy can also be seen in short women wanting tall men.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

This.

by Safe-Tumbleweed 1 week ago

Everyone has preferences is for things like tall or blonde or likes football. The "preference" for virginity ain't that. It's either some weird purity obsession, an insecurity about being compared to literally any other man, or some combination of the two.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

So women wanting tall is an indication that women are insecure about their height so they are coping by getting a tall partner?

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

you really can't handle any criticism of your argument without saying "uhhh but but women!! "

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I'm sure there's some women out there who are insecure about their height and so avoid dating men shorter than them, yeah.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You keep mention fallacies and don't realize that you referencing women wanting tall men is absolutely not an equal comparison in any way.

by Interesting-Bet-7592 1 week ago

It's the same because I am saying men wanting virgin women is a preference. The same way women wanting tall men is a preference.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

you can want what you want but don't cry when you get nothing.

by sharon54 1 week ago

Men should be virgins too then too then.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I said about mens preference not women's.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

men and women are the same.

by Careful_Sherbert9133 1 week ago

Yeah I agree. Men and women are equal

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

I am saying if a non virgin guy wants a virgin girl then it's his choice and preference and he should be called badly for that. If virgin women don't want him they can reject him lol

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

if a non virgin man (not guy) wants a virgin woman (not girl), he does not view men and women as equal and should definitely be called out for it.

by Careful_Sherbert9133 1 week ago

does not view men and women as equal Slap me in the face if I said that

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

you don't have to say it. it's a logical consequence of wanting a virgin woman. why does he want a virgin woman? because he thinks women sleeping around has different moral implications than a man sleeping around. that means he doesn't view men and women as equal. it's always the most toxic sexist dudes who scream about wanting a logical response but can't fathom basic logic. i feel so bad for your mom - don't know how much misogyny you've seen her experience for you to hold such views.

by Careful_Sherbert9133 1 week ago

Men stay tall the whole time though. A virgin is only a virgin once. Seems like a weird thing to seek out seeing as it's so fleeting.

by Swimming_Criticism81 1 week ago

Username checks out

by Prudent_Emergency270 1 week ago

Ad hominem logical fallacy

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

Dude, go outside and touch some grass.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Ad hominem logical fallacy again.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

No, it's a direct insult. This is not being used as an argument. It is a direct insult.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Ok I see you can insult me lol you can't logically counter my argument

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

Fallacy fallacy

by Prudent_Emergency270 1 week ago

If you want someone inexperienced because you are inexperienced and unsure of yourself it's fine. Cute even. Any other reason is weird. And no, it's not comparable to height, you psycho.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Absolutely

by Anonymous 1 week ago

What about someone inexperienced who wants someone experienced? That's comparable directly. Are they also weird?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

No, that's not weird. Do you think I'm contradictory? Go ahead, tell me how contradictory I am

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You seem defensive, I was asking you a question. The two examples are just reverses of each other, why is one bad but the other isn't? Your assumption is that the original always has malicious intent behind it therefore it is evil, that's not the case.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Is anticipating your meaning defensiveness? No. You're just predictable.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Any other reason is weird. And no, it's not comparable to height, you psycho. It is comparable to height and insulting me not logically responding my argument doesn't help

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

You didn't make an argument and I didn't respond with logic. You justified your predation and I called you what you are.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You seem really fixated on women wanting tall men - are you short? Either way, height is not a proxy for life experience, so desiring partners of a particular height range is not considered as needing scrutiny the way desiring a virgin partner is.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Care to explain why?

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

Explain why height is not a proxy for life experience?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Definitely under 5'6

by Swimming_Criticism81 1 week ago

Very clear from OPs replies is he's short and lashing out

by Anonymous 1 week ago

As a virgin I don't get what the obsession with virginity is and I've never understood it but it's talked about a lot online for some reason

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You should slap me in the face if I ever said obsession. I said preference.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

I didn't say I was going to slap you, or anyone, or that you said it was an obsession so cut the dramatics. What I said is that I've noticed, at least online, virginity is obsessed about

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's a preference.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

It more like wanting a fresh law graduate over a 20 year practising one that has literally never won someone's case.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Dude talking about fallacies, criticizing others for using personal insults instead of arguments and then using personal insults yourself does not make you look very smart, and that's not an insult it's more of me trying to help you out. If you didn't get my previous analogy's I'll elaborate: Women aren't just a hole to thrust into until you bust, having sex with another person is a skill and much like all other skills the only way to get better is to practice. With this said, a virgin isn't going to be a great lay much like how I'll probably suck ass at tennis if I ever decide to try it.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Women don't like tall men because they're insecure about their height. Short girls aren't really insecure about their height. I've mostly seen tall women self conscious about their height.

by Swimming_Criticism81 1 week ago

I'd say I can see through this to what you're actually insecure about, but maybe I should say I can see over it.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

🙄

by Anonymous 1 week ago

?

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

I think it depends on the reason they want a virgin. A voluntarily virgin man or woman is allowed to have that preference, of course. But the moment it becomes more than a preference, and becomes the moral evaluation of a woman or a man, you are heading into creepy purity culture that is incredibly dehumanizing.

by jordanerempel 1 week ago

Everyone is allowed to have a preference as long as it's legal and consensual. And I don't see how wanting a virgin is dehumanising

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

Read what I wrote once more, dude. I said the moral evaluation of people based on it is dehumanizing.

by jordanerempel 1 week ago

But for a lot of people who want virgins, that is the case. They evaluate their partner's worth as a human being based on a thin patch of tissue. Not saying that's you. But for a lot of people, it is like that, which should be discouraged.

by jordanerempel 1 week ago

Then say that to them.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

That's your opinion

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

Creepy

by TechnicalDecision291 1 week ago

Ad hominem logical fallacy.

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

That just makes you sound more terminally online

by TechnicalDecision291 1 week ago

Yuck

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The reason it's seen as wrong is because people will refuse to date someone if they aren't a virgin, and they often think their partner is no good when they're not a virgin. If you want someone who doesn't have experience, that's fine. But a lot of people make it extremely uncomfortable for the other party, and their needs are important.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The problem is your absence of logic here, it's respected or even required for marriage in many cultural circles that men "want a virgin" (I hope I don't need to explain that virginity is a mythical concept with little to zero basis in reality), but you try to make it seem as if it's something that is universally frowned upon as much as you want to make it seem as if women wanting to date tall men is a universally accepted cultural practice. Neither is the case, so this is just ridiculous. This is not an opinion this is the scream of a toddler.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Consent is necessary so idk what you are talking about?

by Substantial_Lead 1 week ago

are you also a virgin? it's not fair to want the other person to be a virgin if you're not.

by Careful_Sherbert9133 1 week ago