A good game doesn't need updates to keep it good, amirite?

I agree. I would go as far as say in some cases continual updates can make a game worse rather than better.

by Pure_District 1 week ago

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it, thats my motto"

by Anonymous 1 week ago

At least when they patch microtransactions or season passes into it you know the game is for the bin

by sandrine24 1 week ago

Back in the day most of those games that shipped like that would end up in landfills with mass produced disks/cartridges and would be a big loss for the company so only the good devs who could release a full product that was fun stuck around now almost every game is released 3/4ths of the way done and we're expected to play test it while we pay them

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I miss the days when games and operating systems were actually tested on real hardware.

by Alternative-Emu 1 week ago

It's just survivor bias.

by Spinkafleta 1 week ago

I like updates, but from the fighting game community, I think we are WAAAAAAY too quick to just nerf everything to the ground the instant it gets a little annoying. We need to relearn how to think around problems in games. Some things are overpowered and need to be changed, but the developers don't need to panic every time some dude on twitter says something. Also melee is a broken mess, but spawned a community where some players are pushing 40 after playing it in their teens. Beautiful game.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Of course, but updates won't kill the game.

by AmbitionHaunting6050 1 week ago

ehhh... some games are outright worse after updates. What comes to mind for me is Dying Light 2. Perfectly... 6.5/10 game. But people moaned, so they updated it, and now it's a bloated mess.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Sadly, a lot of studios are ruled by the financial department, and the finance department doesn't care if the game is good, as long as people pay for it Some games feel empty or unfinished without the updates because they were designed with the intent of adding "DLC" later (with that "DLC" often being "stuff that would've been included in the game, until they realize they could make more money if they package it as DLC and charge extra for it") Some games release with no quality control, and are completely unplayable due to game-breaking bugs. There's also the fact a lot of games include microtransactions now, and they have to keep updating in order to prevent people from figuring out how to hack the game and get the stuff for free. If you'd like to see an example of all of these bugs in action, I hear Fallout 76 was (and still is) a trash fire that hits all three of my points

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I agree a good one doesn't need it. However, good dlc or a good update can make a good game even better. For example, undead nightmare for RdR, Heart of stone for Witcher, and any soulsborne dlc. Not sure if these count as updates tho

by leonardoadams 1 week ago

A patch is is typically a small update that fixes bugs. It's perfectly reasonable for people to want patches to fix issues.

by Ephraimabshire 1 week ago

But the number of positions in fortnite are much larger than those in chess, doesn't that make it more fun by that logic?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

In theory it may seem like that but when you're actually playing it, you don't feel much difference game to game because it's the just the same formula but in chess you need to think differently every match

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Same can be said of Fortnite.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I'm telling you from first hand experience that's not the case 😭

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I agree. Now we just need to get the devs on board.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yup it helps though.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Objectively, sure it can stay good. But an MMO that never grows would be weird

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Except updates help. None of those games are growing in popularity or even holding in popularity compared to what they had even 10 years ago, never mind 20 years ago. Updates help, sometimes they are bad but more often they are positive.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I highly recommend Final Fantasy series as a whole as games that don't need updates to keep it good.

by Most_Transition_1654 1 week ago

I think it mostly applies to single-player games with a story line, like Nier:Automata. Once you experience the whole story, you completed the game, and there will be no need for updates

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Games 20 years ago still had expansion packs. They might have been more complete on release compared to many games nowadays but do you remember how long it would take for a AAA title game to be made back in those days? How many years were some of these games worked on? I remember ads for many games coming out years and years before the game would come out.

by Anonymous 1 week ago