-32 Avatar has no other selling point other than it's animation and hence cannot be considered as one of the greatest movies of all time, amirite?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I never understood the hype. Watched it once. It was "fine" but didn't blow my mind by any stretch.

by clara20 1 week ago

It was a big deal at the time. The movie took 15 years to make, I remember seeing it in IMAX and every seat was full. And it was in theaters for MONTHS after release.

by Burdette89 1 week ago

I think it was the first 3D theater /TV experience for most people.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

How old are you? 3D movies go way back before Avatar.

by Markbruen 1 week ago

They said for most people. It was definitely my first. And many others I know who watch Avatar 3D was first for them. At the time it was THE movie to see in 3D, all others were just "meh".

by Anonymous 1 week ago

He said most people. Add on that at the time Avatar was peak CGI for its time, so in 2009 Avatar genuinely was a spectacle compared to something like Jaws 3D that was just a gimmicky cashgrab

by mozelle21 1 week ago

It's like the movie is so bad, you'd appreciate the first one.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I actually feel like it does the opposite in so many regards.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Ain't Avatar 2 like 30 mins of story and 2,5 hours of cgi landscapes?

by DisasterObvious 1 week ago

It definitely isn't, that's a huge exaggeration

by Spencer06 1 week ago

There's much less story than that

by Individual_Floor_406 1 week ago

It's considered as the highest grossing movies of all time. Not the greatest of all time. Big difference. For more comparison: Avatar has an RT score of 82% while Avengers: Endgame is 90%

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's even stupider to consider endgame one of the greatest films of all time

by Lanky_Camp4831 1 week ago

Exactly. I used Endgame to establish how low the bar is if Avatar is considered one of the greatest.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

That feeling I got when Strange appeared with everybody, followed by Cap saying "Avengers Assemble" was definitely a feeling I rarely get in movies. But I was also a huge fan of all of the other films, outside of the first 2 Thor movies. It sucks that they fell off so hard after the Infinity saga.

by Burdette89 1 week ago

Endgame isn't terrible, it also isn't amazing. I would say that infinity war, iron man and guardians of the galaxy are by far the three best mcu films.

by Lanky_Camp4831 1 week ago

Well RT isn't a good source anymore.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Same tbh

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I would kms before dissing the last Airbender

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's his use of animation vs calling it sfx or cgi. Poor word choice

by Anonymous 1 week ago

As it stands now it feels like OP is arguing against a point no one made. No one considers it one of the best movies of all time

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It was the highest grossing one until avengers endgame IIRC , maybe OP got sales figures and how much people actually liked it confused.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I was prepared to type, "How dare you type that about Avatar: the last Airbender?" And "you're wrong," "Avatar is one of the best series ever made." 🤣

by quitzondagmar 1 week ago

Unles he's talking about the movie…. But then it wouldn't be on unpopular opinions ha

by Lenny36 1 week ago

The movie did not have the honour of being called Avatar

by Anonymous 1 week ago

We are all the cabbage merchant about to throw hands just because.

by Electrical_Youth 1 week ago

Same. Greatest tv show of all time.

by mabshire 1 week ago

Im on the same exact page

by letitiasteuber 1 week ago

greatest movie Ok then, defend M Night Sillyman to the death : D

by athompson 1 week ago

When I watched it at the cinema, I felt really immersed, it was yes the graphics, but also the atmosphere and the art style itself, I get the story isn't very original and why someone might not like it, but I don't find it to be a bad movie, also your opinion seem to be pretty popular, at least in my experience

by Appropriate_Air 1 week ago

oel ngati kameie

by Spencer06 1 week ago

Eywa holds all her children in her heart Nothing is ever lost

by Spencer06 1 week ago

Dunno man its lead actor is a Bogan bricklayer from Rockingham. Definitely a selling point for me to go see a bloke from my hometown being the star of one of the biggest movie franchises in existence

by priceaida 1 week ago

Nobody watched it because it was good. They watched it because it looked good.

by Financial_Tea 1 week ago

Agree with a lot of what you've said here. In my opinion, Avatar was a decent (though, somewhat unoriginal) story with decent performances elevated, spectacularly, by some of the most beautiful visuals ever put to film. There's no shame in admitting that those visuals are the primary reason it has become one of the most memorable films in decades and why it achieved such box office success.

by Apprehensive_Body 1 week ago

I'm not sure whether you just think mockumentary means fake documentary or whether you actually wanted this to be a comedy

by aubrey80 1 week ago

Mockumentary typically refers to comedies filmed in a documentary style (the office, what we do in the shadows etc.) a fake documentary is typically referred to as being filmed in a documentary style or "found footage" (district 9, blair witch project)

by kaleb86 1 week ago

Thanks for the explanation ! Yeah I just meant fake documentary then

by Puzzleheaded_West799 1 week ago

i think it's crazy when people call me crazy for pointing that OP especially when i point out it's just a nerds unoriginal version of pocahontas.

by Smitchell 1 week ago

You are definitely younger than me because I called it "Dances With Wolves ... in SpACCccEEeeee."

by norapowlowski 1 week ago

I raise you one Ferngully.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You and every Gen X-er.

by griffin90 1 week ago

Nobody says it's one of the greatest movies of all time. It's acclaim was more a product of context, the time it was made, and the visuals. But even then, critics were stating your points. I think the most I ever hear people describe it as is good... That's it. Ive never met anyone (apart from that small window of Avatar mania) that gave more praise than that.

by sengerdeon 1 week ago

Inception and dark knight? Seriously?

by AcceptablePaint1871 1 week ago

It's story was absolutely dismal ("unobtanium" ffs!!) and why it has had absolutely zero lasting impact. Not sure I'd call your opinion unpopular since no one is saying it's one of the greatest movies of all time but take my updoot since you got me to write all this.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

("unobtanium" ffs!!) Unobtanium is an actual technical term used in engineering. It's not just some dumb name Cameron came up with. why it has had absolutely zero lasting impact. The movie has had an impact on the technical side of cinema, as well as an impact on 3D movies and all (sure they're not as prevalent now but they're still really comon), heck the fact that it's still being discussed now, no matter the discussion, shows that it has a lasting impact.

by Puzzleheaded_West799 1 week ago

Why use a different term to describe a material that literally correspond to the actual definition and use of unobtanium ? You have an already existing technical term, it's better to use it. Most of the reasons given as to why "it sucks" are dumb ones like complaining about an actual real world term I agree that it's not the greatest movie of all time (heck, I don't even like it that much), but acting like it didn't have an impact is disingenuous ahah

by Puzzleheaded_West799 1 week ago

I have honestly never heard of anyone being called a "bigot" for not liking a movie.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

sales of 3d TVs lasting 🤔

by Anonymous 1 week ago

That last sentence is an insane take, nobody thinks that

by aubrey80 1 week ago

3D TV was a fad that died within just a few years of launch, and other than the Avatar 2 film I genuinely can't recall a big film using the 3D tech. So I doubt I would call that a long lasting impact.

by Neither_Photo 1 week ago

Avatar 1 had a campaign which planted a million trees around the world which is pretty dope tho

by Spencer06 1 week ago

That's fantastic and all but hasn't really solved the problem so just a publicity stunt.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Avatar 2 also had an ocean conservation campaign. Still, you have to admire a major movie which at least tries to preach some environmental themes, recycle and all

by Spencer06 1 week ago

I'm not going to give celebs a hard time for not solving our climate crisis.The major nations need to come together and do something about that before it's too late. That said, Cameron making for profit movies pandering to environmental issues is kinda gross.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You have to make people aware and try to care about the world and its animals, somehow, you know? Plus the Avatar movies need funding. We're only getting Avatar 3, 4 and 5 because 2 did well. Cameron also refused to serve meat on set during production due to slaughterhouse consequences.

by Spencer06 1 week ago

Oh yeah, I'm well aware it's going to be a whole Avatar situation for the next decade or so. lol

by Anonymous 1 week ago

JakeSOOLY, I see you

by Spencer06 1 week ago

I never understood why they called him Sooly especially when he just a second ago literally pronounced his own name.

by friesenkatlynn 1 week ago

Personally I can't think of any hugely popular quotes from Harry Potter or the Avengers movies. "Avengers Assemble". Which I completely admit is 100% cheating.

by griffin90 1 week ago

Has anyone ever considered it to be one of the greatest movies of all time? Idk where you're reading those things, but whenever I read about Avatar it's almost always someone saying it's overrated. The Avatar movies are cinematic experiences and that's why they are popular.

by mkeebler 1 week ago

Avatar 3 is coming out in a year and a half

by Spencer06 1 week ago

Well, hopefully it's good, I guess I should prolly pay more attention to future stuff lol

by coltenkessler 1 week ago

That's pretty great lol I feel like if I was actually in it I'd be at least a little more in touch with what was going on but there's a decent chance I'd end up like that too

by coltenkessler 1 week ago

I think it's very romantic. I love the relationship between Jake and Neytiri. That's what I like about the movie, and the sequel

by Ogottlieb 1 week ago

Yeah the movie is pretty average and only got that hype because of the 3D effects. Also it started a stupid trend that any movie realised in the years after tried to implement 3D even tho it had no purpose and made many movies just worse.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I would agree that there are not many memorable lines but I disagree in the sense that the movie wasn't made to be remembered off the lines. Its more about the immersion and how pandora feels so real which is why it has lasting effects on many people.

by Mafaldakshlerin 1 week ago

"Dances with Smurfs". I don't think "The Dark Knight" or "Insheeption" are the pinnacle of movie making either.

by Zealousideal_Life 1 week ago

I would love to see inception with sheeps as the main cast ngl

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's story is extremely generic with no interesting spin on it, it's characters are as flat and one dimensional as they come, and honestly the effects weren't anything special either.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Uh-huh, it was intended to be a great 3d experience and it is, and nobody thinks it's a 'great film' overall but duders pretend like 'somebody does and here's why they're so wrong' just to go off about nothing. Why people get so upset about family films like this, it's just bizarre. Whatever delusion you had about a guarantee that you were supposed to love it, that's your fault, and staying mad about it for years is just ridiculous.

by Most_Target_7626 1 week ago

I see you (You are brother of tulkun, you are one of us now)

by Spencer06 1 week ago

People don't talk much about the movies they like and love. The other two movies you listed have cult followings of people who can't just enjoy movies they have to make those movies their personality.

by bartellaidan 1 week ago

Disagree with the "no memorable dialogues". Stephen Lang's Colonel Quaricth had some pretty badass quotes.

by cathryn47 1 week ago

YOU'RE NOT ON KANSAS ANYMORE, you are on Pandora!

by Spencer06 1 week ago

Does anyone consider Avatar as one of the greatest movies of all time? I've never heard anyone make such a ludicrous claim.

by Terrible-Scholar3051 1 week ago

I was there on 2009 "3Drealcinema experience" wasnt really blown out ( im myopic and didnt wear glasses) by this. Sure some effects like falling flowers petals or what was it was nice or Window/panels glass coming out screen - but for FIRST REAL LIVE FILM in IMAX3D it wasnt as great as promoted to be. Honestly 2 decades before Red/blue glasses could do same more or less. No wonder 3D tvs are nonexistent years prior 🙈🙊 OVERHYPED and OVERRATED - watched Avatar2 at home, was kinda bored by its nosense, maybe change will come after 3,4 part will be out^^ 😄🤣

by AdventurousGate 1 week ago

Avatar is the best movie of all time bar none. Every aspect is excellent.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I still don't understand the plot of Avatar whatsoever

by Sufficient_Start_730 1 week ago

Greatest film of all time? No Do I love watching them and get a kick out of it? Absolutely.

by courtney53 1 week ago

I actually love avatar

by AffectionateBelt3535 1 week ago

There's nothing unpopular about your opinion, nobody considers it as one of the greatest movies of all time

by South-Friend-5102 1 week ago

Basic plot with boring characters. Amazing visuals, though. It's just a great film for its visuals, and that's it. Everything else was bland and predictable.

by OkPirate 1 week ago

Dances with Smurfs, change my mind

by labadiewilbert 1 week ago

Nobody considers that tech demo one of the best movies of all time. 😁

by cristobalberge 1 week ago

Not unpopular

by Anonymous 1 week ago

"Where's my goddamn cigarette?!"

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Super popular opinion, that movie was awful

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Avatar is more of a tech demo, it's shot in 60 FPS, makes use of incredible motion capture and CGI technology, and looks amazing in 3D. However, if you take away all the fancy tech and eye candy the film uses, the actual story and acting comes out to be just 'good' imo, nothing that blows you out of the water, but it's not bad either. No way I would ever consider it a great movie, especially compared to something like the Dark Knight.

by Boring-Hearing 1 week ago

This premise is so deeply flawed I don't think it even counts as an unpopular opinion. No one say Avatar is anything remotely close to "one of the greatest movies of all times". Its fans are too busy trying to defend it when its broader cultural relevance faded almost immediately after release.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It was a great experience on IMAX 3D but the next day I realised it's a pretty bad movie

by leonor10 1 week ago

It wasn't just the animation, it was the 3D effects. Avatar was the first big movie to not use those red and blue glasses to make the 3D effect It was big deal at the time but yea now looking back its nothing

by kayleyeichmann 1 week ago

Does anybody consider it one of the great films? I doubt it This isn't a hot take.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The movie was hyped as a revolutioning 3D movie. Everybody wanted to see it for 3D experience.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

No one's calling it the greatest movie of all time. Highest grossing , yeah, but not the greatest movie.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

No one calls it one of the greatest movies. But its cgi (not animation) is some of the best ever created. Its praised for that

by kaleb86 1 week ago

agreed, Legend of Korra is vastly superior

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You know how bad the movie is when i expect to fight to death for an almost 20 year old cartoon/semi anime

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I was one of the OG haters of that movie

by Fit-Government 1 week ago

I was like first what movie? and second is op mentally deficient? Then I realized op meant the blue people and is right

by Anonymous 1 week ago

All the best bits were cut from that movie

by Coraliewiza 1 week ago

It was never considered one of the greatest movies. It was considered revolutionary when it came to the visual aspect of filmmaking. All else is just a reskin of Pocahontas

by Annabell13 1 week ago

I don't think I've ever heard anyone call it the greatest movie of all time at all you're the first one to even say that sentence at least to me. What it's great about is using CGI scenery, and design. I don't think I've ever seen a movie said as good as they have.

by benchristiansen 1 week ago

This was an extremely popular opinion before the movies even came out. "Its just Pocahontas in space with blue people!" To which I say, Pocahontas was just Dances with Wolves but Disney.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Don't have much to say other than that I fully agree.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This was a popular opinion in 2009

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I LOVE the story.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's a rip off of Ferngully

by Wrong_Parking 1 week ago

I think your opinion is not unpopular. However, you have to understand that Avatar is targeting a difference audience than you. So some people might consider Avatar an all tike great (people who like animation) and other like you will not. Flavors are unique in all people.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah. The main selling point of the movies are the visuals. I personally really loved just watching the water and creatures in the second one and that was enough for me

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I remember watching it when it came out, I was really bored and don't remember anything about the movie tbh

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Did you see it in theatre? I feel the IMAX 3D enhances it so much and I can't wait to see Avatar 3 in 3D. You lose a lot of the power when you see it on DVD.

by Spencer06 1 week ago

It was on our tv my brother was watching it, I was also 12 so that is probably the main reason i didn't like it

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Ok I'll see if my bf will watch it with me, thanks!

by Anonymous 1 week ago

But it's not considered one of the greatest movies of all time! The story is simplistic and derivative.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I don't think anyone critically thinks it's a GOAT level movie or movies even. It's a mid Pocahontas rip off essentially. It's a classic theme that's been done much better by movies before and after it. That said it did insane numbers out of nowhere. Largely do to fact that 3D movies where all the rage at the time honestly (and boy did that craze die big time) and the fact that the marketing campaign was literally insane + it was also around the time social media was taking off big time so really just a perfect storm of timing. I still remember when it was released have only experienced a movie just straight dominating the whole world like that a few times in my life and that's like one of 4 maybe. You could not exist and not get slapped in the face with something Avatar related every two seconds anywhere on planet Earth. It shows that you can really elevate something mediocre to a higher level just by pumping out enough money if anything but you won't be finding it in too many GOAT discussions unless we are talking sales performance.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Man we really gotta specify which avatar we're talking about and whether it's the incredible critically acclaimed series that has stood the test of time and will go down as one of the best entertainment series in the world or the blue people

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Who considers it one of the greatest movies of all time? For me it's right up there with Transformers for one of the worst movies of all time with the most bloated budget. Literal movie junk food.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You will be surprised. There are many people who don't care about the story of a movie just the visuals

by Anonymous 1 week ago

yeah i'm aware that most people are idiots

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I think Avatar's greatest selling point isn't its animation but rather the underlying theme it presents its audience, i.e. native resistance to a foreign occupation. It just delivers it via an original and creative plot alongside some amazing graphics. You're missing the point if you see Avatar as just being another animated film.

by sanfordzena 1 week ago

A theme done many times more effectively.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's Pocahontas/Dances with wolves all over again. It's in space, sure, but besides that the story isn't particularly original

by Upstairs_Stuff 1 week ago

Also Ferngully

by astrid06 1 week ago

It's okay you don't have to enjoy it, you're allowed to be wrong. Clearly the film went right over your head. Just keep watching Nickelodeon and you'll be fine.

by schambergeraliv 1 week ago

You're allowed to disagree but geezus deflate that head of yours.

by Miserable_Door_1671 1 week ago

Yep, the "good savage" and all that naive nonsense.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Tbf that whole "punchline every 5 minutes" thing is very much the fault of Marvel movies and their ilk, the tonality of Avatar was par for its time. And at the time, the CGI and 3D absolutely were the core selling points of the movie, I don't know anyone who went to see it for the plot

by aubrey80 1 week ago

Watched it once. Felt like a remake of tens of other movies with different characters on a different planet. I have zero desire to watch the second one.

by haroldlarkin 1 week ago

Haha, I might check it out after I get some sleep...and another thing, my wife says Avatar was a rip off of Fern Gully: The Last Rainforest.

by haroldlarkin 1 week ago

Seen neither and never will

by hauckvelda 1 week ago

How come?

by Spencer06 1 week ago

Is it really an unpopular opinion? I have never heard a single person compare its quality to the movies you mentioned, people go see Avatar movies because they look good not because they are good

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Facts. The story is generic / derivative. The acting is.. ok (save for Lang, he is absolutely stealing the show). The visuals were groundbreaking for the time, but one can critique the overly saturated aspect of the film. All in all, it is a very cringe, preachy mashup of dance with wolves meets ferngully in space. It's watchable. Does not deserve any great praise.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I agree, it was just evolutionary graphics at the time but at this point, all I can remember is glowing sky jelly fish. But there are far more movies from that time that I would find memorable. In fact, there are better movies just from 2009, let alone of all time.

by Ismael21 1 week ago