+38 It's stupid to wonder why there's seemingly no signs of intelligent aliens. amirite?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I mean,that's a funny ass gif.

by Agreeable-Lie 1 week ago

I think it's because celestial bodies are really that far apart like good luck getting around everybody!

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This is why I'm not so sure whatever is behind the UAP issue is an exospheric biological species.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Try playing Dyson sphere program and see how absolutely hard it is to get out of the first solar system and that's a game streamlined on the basic idea of this

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This is why I hate the Fermi paradox, "if they existed we'd have seen them by now!". Or maybe space is just big and most civilisations stick to their solar system, because expanding to all 100 billions stars in the galaxy is a laughably pointless endeavour.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Exactly; the universe is infinitesimally large. The odds verge on certainty that there is other intelligent life in the universe. Whether it will exist at the same time as humans, and if it will ever be feasible that intelligent life can make contact with each other is another story.

by Agreeable-Seat3947 1 week ago

You haven't outlined why it's stupid. Just given your opinion on the fermi paradox

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The fermi paradox not only isn't real, fermi literally never published anything about alien life not existing where it probably should.

by Head_Government 1 week ago

He's not really giving his opinion on the fermi paradox He's saying there is no paradox because intelligent life only exists on this planet

by Ernabeahan 1 week ago

No he didn't say that lol

by Anonymous 1 week ago

There are SOOOO many things that have to happen to see evidence of aliens. 1) Life would have to exist on another planet 2)That life would have to evolve intelligent life (it took 4 billion years on earth) 3) That intelligent life would have to exist long enough to develop technology (without destroying itself) 4) That intelligent life would have to want to communicate with other intelligent life. Nobody knows the probability of any of these.

by denesikzane 1 week ago

Don't forget they'd have to exist long enough with that tech, early enough to find earth which up until recently would show zero evidence of intelligent life. The window in which something would even see us is so small. Essentially anything further than 100 light years give or take would see pretty much nothing from that distance.

by Savings-Victory 1 week ago

You wouldn't see radio waves, but the signs of life have been detectable for very long as in millions or billions of years. A species with a million year head start on us would probably already have developed the necessary telescope technology to check every star in their vicinity if not their whole galaxy, and they'd have plenty of time to do it. I still agree that there is no way of knowing the probability of such a species exists or even of how likely it is that life can start elsewhere in the universe so it's not really a shock we haven't seen anyone. However, if life is very rare, I would expect that aliens would find our planet to be very interesting even if there is no sign of intelligence from their vantage point, so I don't think the answer that earth is boring really holds up unless there is life everywhere, which it seems there is not.

by trent63 1 week ago

Of course. I just meant likely from those distances they wouldn't be able to see people walking around building huts. I was more referring to measurable atmosphere changes, nuclear radiation, lights, etc.

by Savings-Victory 1 week ago

Takes 4 billion years to develop on Earth just to be space-faring for just over half a century. And let's face it, will probably only last for like another century or two before it fizzles out. On a universal timeline this is all happening in the blink of an eye, the chance of two civilizations being at this stage around the same time seem infinitesimally slim

by Olsonaniyah 1 week ago

There's barely enough evidence to suggest there's intelligent life on this planet. And that's how the aliens who built this place want it.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Here's my theory: interstellar travel isn't actually possible or practical on any level. So, there are aliens out there, but the phenomenon of "life" is so rare and spread apart that we really just can't get to each other. If it is possible, it takes so long and such resources that there's just no reason to make the trip. Like, they see us, but dang, they're not taking a trip that's 10 lifetimes long to come say hi.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

A few hundred years is a long time for us, but why should it be a long time for aliens? Perhaps evolution proceeded differently in other planets, where they can easily live for hundreds of thousands of years. In that case, it shouldn't be too difficult to spend a hundred years on a trip to a nearby solar system.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

If I had been born 200 years ago to the wealthiest and most well-connected family in the world I would've died in agony of appendicitis in a home with no heating or electricity. Today, I'm alive with a couple almost imperceptible scars on my stomach. With a click on my phone I can basically travel anywhere on the planet or learn anything I want to. Full disclosure I know nothing about science beyond a high school education, but who the hell knows what advancements there will be in the years to come.

by Ctorphy 1 week ago

Interesting perspective! I could understand how there couldn't be similar creatures to humans on other planets, but why not creatures that resemble other lifeforms, like a cat or squid? I suppose it doesn't have to 'resemble' an Earth animal, but just any larger animal in general and not just a random microscopic organism.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

To expand on your point, It will probably ressemble some form of earth animal anyway, since the laws of physics are the same everywhere. It would need a digestive system, so some form of ingestion and excretion mechanism; it would need grapsing appendages, a locomotion mechanism, auditory, visual perception sensory organs (the eye is actually a very constant independent evolution in so many unrelated eart species it is unlikely aliens would not have eyes)... There are billions of ways this can manifest in detail. But in the big picture there are not a infinite amounts of possible life configurations.

by No_Coconut_1912 1 week ago

Imagine how two grains of sand on an endless beach could possibly talk to one another

by Connellyadolf 1 week ago

Wow

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I don't think it's stupid to think about things you don't know the answer to. Here's an updoot.

by AdLogical 1 week ago

Keep in mind I didn't say wondering if there are intelligent aliens, but wondering why they haven't left any signs already for us to find.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Dark Forest Theory is one avenue of theory for this.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Wait till we figure out how aliens exist outside of time and space as we know it, and the earth is just a big zoo for them

by Anonymous 1 week ago

If an asteroid had missed our planet millions of years ago, earth would still be inhabited by dinosaurs.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The Great Filter is probably the best attempted idea that resolves the no apparent life in the universe paradox.

by Intelligent_Poem_253 1 week ago

The most logical answer is that they exist, faster than light travel is not possible, and we don't see them on telescopes because they're too far away. Telescopes look back in time as they look farther into space. If an alien civilization with powerful telescopes looked at us from ten thousand light years away, they'd see scattered packs of hunter-gatherers and no civilization.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's possible we wouldn't recognize those signs for what they are. Sci-fi focuses a lot on humanoid aliens, that we tend to overlook that aliens, including intelligent aliens, might be very different from us and use very different technology. On one hand, I understand the argument that the laws of math and physics are the same for aliens as they are for us, therefore technology would maybe develop differently, but work similarly. On the other hand, it's impossible to know what you don't know or imagine the unknown, so can we 100% correctly determine what aliens would look like or how their technology would work?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I feel like we haven't seen extra terrestrial life because space is just that big. Our minds can't comprehend it. It's like pulling a cup of water out the ocean up, seeing it has no life in it, and saying "yup no life out here, wonder why?"

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You would have tons of life by putting a cup in the ocean, tons of stuff lives on the surface film of water

by Anonymous 1 week ago

"The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" vibes

by Walterwelch 1 week ago

I assume any intelligent alien life would be smart enough to stay away from us.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You gave no explanation for why it's stupid to wonder about the fermi paradox. All you did was give your favored explanations, which of course, are a result of wondering about the fermi paradox and trying to figure it out.

by Hahnbilly 1 week ago

Planks equation is also flawed which is usually the "statistics" equation you see people quote for the amount of life in the universe

by Kitchen_Ad 1 week ago

Perhaps there are intelligent aliens who ended up on the same cultural path as the Aboriginal Australians and they've just spent millennia wandering around the desert, making paintings and poking at things with sticks. High intelligence doesn't necessarily yield high technology.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's even more simple than you put it. Even if there is another intelligent life form out there - which statistically speaking there will be as there are; 2 TRILLION Galaxies 200 BILLION TRILLION Stars 10000000000000000000000000 Planets … that's 10 to the power of 25 So the likelihood is that SOMEWHERE among all of those planets is another intelligent life form. HOWEVER, the known Universe is about 94 BILLION light years across… so the chances of another intelligent life form just HAPPENING by pure luck to be looking perfectly in our direction to see Earth is so small as to be basically Zero… and then, of course, the further out from us that intelligent life is, they won't even see us as we were in the Industrial Period of 1760-1839 for hundreds or thousands of years, or more. If that other intelligent life form is 5000 light years away - bearing in mind our Milky Way Galaxy is around 100,000 light years across - then right now if they're looking at Earth, they're seeing the end of the Stone Age and the beginning of the Bronze Age… they might not even be aware that there's anything unique about our planet other than it having liquid water on the surface. Similarly we would be seeing the same if they advanced at a similar time and similar rate

by Kellen10 1 week ago

Intelligent Aliens will stay hidden from us.

by Moorearvel 1 week ago

Honestly would you want to come to this planet? We're probably the Jerry springer show of the universe.

by kylie35 1 week ago

The thing if that intelligent doesn't mean "I want to travel around the universe and meet the humans!", but people just doesn't get it. You can be super smart and quiet, calm, home-loving, interested in exploring or improving your planet more than in wasting resources to step others. Or maybe your planet lacks of the materials or favorable weather conditions to build a ship and go outside. Maybe your solar system and surroundings are too hostile to pass across them. Or probably the aliens just don't wanna get involved with the dumb self-destructive hairless apes with moral superior complex. Each species have the type and degree of intelligence it needs to adapt and survive in their ecosystem, defining this way the personality and necessities of its individuals.

by Certain-Contact-3432 1 week ago