The bible also says no haircuts, but I guess we're skipping that one. amirite?

That was for the Levite priests who had to keep themselves sanctified and clean from the world

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, and they can have haircuts now. In the New Testament, Jesus clarified which laws from the Old Testament we have to follow now. Like in the Old Testament, people couldn't get tattoos because pagan cultures would do that, but it doesn't matter now if you get one or not. And certain things you eat, like pig, weren't allowed, but that's because you couldn't clean them well enough, and they might get sick.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christians pick and choose which portions of the bible they wish to follow and which they want to ignore.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

no, actually we don't. if you would read the previously posted comments you would see that there are actual reasons that we don't follow some of these rules. please think before you bash.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You reap the benefits of science but oppose scientific progression at every turn.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, yeah. You're supposed to love everybody. Millions of Christians hate homosexuals. Just because they're sinners according to the Bible doesn't mean that you should hate them. Everyone sins, so you should hate everyone instead. That's easier.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ahahaha I've seen that xD I like you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Point 1) That was the Old Testament, and the New Testament says Jesus was the last sacrifice. Point 2) That was a part of ancient law, that's not God saying "okay lol, go sell ur daughter." Point 3) That means no sex. Point 4) Also ancient law, not God saying "okay lol go take sum slaves." Point 5) Yet again, ancient law, not God saying "okay lol he worked on my holy day, go pwn his ass." It's okay when people question the Bible, but you're just being ridiculous and uneducated. >_>

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@245904 (The_Enlightened): Just so you know, Romans 8 is where you can find the stuff about the ancient law being overruled by Jesus' sacrifice.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

doesnt the stuff about homosexuals also get overruled? trollface.jpg

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's in Romans 1, so no. All that other stuff is overruled because it's not 'loving your neighbor as yourself' which is the second greatest commandment (as stated by Jesus in Matthew 22:37-40) http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_buW_aKzfBn4/SnjlAysZRQI/AAAAAAAAAxw/9c3D75c85s4/s400/jesus+smiling.jpg

by Anonymous 13 years ago

We follow Jesus and what he says. Once he was resurrected, the new testament law was vanquished because he vanquished sin. Cool, huh?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So true, people really do need to learn what they are talking about before they laugh at it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you mean old testament law was vanquished* the new testament law is what we follow

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together

by Anonymous 13 years ago

again, if you would read the previously posted comments you would see that Christians today don't follow most of the laws that were stated in the Old Testament (which happens to be the only place you're referencing). We are only required to follow the ones the Christ reinstated when he was here on Earth.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lev 21:20, not vision sight homie, by defect he means, SIN. #2 Haircuts are not frowned upon in the Bible, read the one with Sampson and Delilah, of course Sampson's lost his strength when his hair was cut, but haircuts themselves for the general population weren't frowned upon. #3 Jews today still do not eat pork they view pig as unclean #4 Blasphemy is the biggest sin in the Bible, so yeah, your screwed on that one.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You know you're just being ridiculous. You're distorting the context, and most of that stuff was ancient practice, anyway. You'd made a damn good lawyer or politician, but as a religious debater, just no.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I really hate people who take the Bible out of context. JK i shouldn't hate anyone, but it is super frowned upon. Seriously, the Bible doesn't lie, you simply take things and twist them around making them seem crazy.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I imagine then that all of you are against gay marriage? Isn't there a way to twist THAT portion of the bible around so that we don't follow it? I mean, you're managing to twist around all the other things that you don't follow so that it makes sense. Maybe you could just try saying, "That part about homosexuals was before the Declaration of Independence when our Founding Fathers decided that all men are created equal". I'm sure you could find a way so that you don't need to discriminate any longer.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, don't jump all over my nonexistent nuts on this one but YES gay marriage is a sin. No, we shouldn't abuse and hate them, but yes it is wrong, politically correct? No, so what, right isn't always easy. Nope, NO twisting facts whatsoever, I never would. You on the other hand? Yes, you seem to do that quite often.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

actually, the Bible says NOTHING about gay marriage. Before you start criticizing it as if its a movie or novel, take into consideration what it SAYS and who you might be offending by saying such things. Its not just Athiests on this site.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I did not say that the bible said anything about gay marraige--I assumed you were against it. Was I wrong to assume that? I don't treat it as a "movie or novel"...your comment regarding that makes absolutely no sense. I have many Christian friends and Catholic family members, so I'm able to treat the Bible like the Bible. Most of the previous comments on this post justified why different things the Bible prohibits are not followed now. I only suggested that believers try to find a way to justify gay marriage (for the sake of equality), even though the bible supports marriage between a man and a woman.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What Bible are you reading? The "Holy Bible" I read does actually say homosexuality is wrong. So yes, that would mean gay marriage is wrong.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank you! Like the stories about Sodom and Gamorrah and also in Revelations, those that are sexually impure will be tossed in the fiery lake, referring to homosexuals. And why would we find a way to bend the rules to say homosexuality is right? That's not what the Bible teaches. Of course we should not make fun of them or anyone for that matter, but we won't approve of it either. We are not going to acquiesce on this topic.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@245932 (Anonymous): I have to put this out there......you do realize the catholics "revised" the bible a couple hundred years back right? (I'm sure god gave them the approval before doing so) but that does makes you question.....what did they change? and for what reason? Little things like that take away from the credibility of the bible. Not to mention, the bible if full of "faith based" answers.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

God loves you but hates your sin. All sin is equal. If you are humbly sorry for your sin, God will forgive you. So if God forgives a very small sin, he'll forgive homosexuality, too, and he'll love you. The Bible teaches love to all, and forgiveness to those who sin and are our enemies, so I'd say the Bible says nothing about "God hating fags", or that "we should hate fags."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Of course we aren't supposed to "hate fags." And we don't hate homosexuals. We just don't approve of homosexuality because the God doesn't approve of homosexuality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Idk why I put "the God." I meant just "God" my bad, but you still get my point.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, I meant fags and homosexuals as the same thing. It was just making fun of those signs people hold that say "God hates fags." And yeah, homosexuality does go against nature, no one can argue against that. I just don't remember reading the part in the Bible where Jesus tells us to hate gay people. Most of the verses in the Bible that are against homosexuality are ancient laws/practices, anyway, and not really the word of God. I still do believe that homosexuality is a sin, but it's not a person's choice, and God will easily forgive it. People just demonize it too much.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Please keep your Athiest propaganda to yourself. We christians have Faith, which is much bigger than your lies. Maybe you should read the full bible and try going to church.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(F.L.): I'm not an Athiest, and I don't believe in God. And I'm not lying to myself. Doesn't it make more sense that one who believes a bunch of words written in a book, with no proof of their validity, would be closer to "lying to oneself" than one who believes what they see? I've read portions of the Bible and have gone to church with my Christian family and friends. I choose to live my life based on my own understanding. Yes, I'm scared of the "unknown" (such as what happens after death), but I choose to embrace this uncertainty rather than believing stories in the Bible to feel comforted.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

wouldnt not believing in God make you an atheist?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He's probably Agnostic, where you don't believe in God, but you don't disbelieve in one, either. Basically atheist, but not close minded.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Atheists are not closed-minded. If you're saying that, you're saying every other religion is closed-minded for believing there is a god and calling people who don't believe in one closed-minded

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that, I'm just saying that agnostics are open to any religion that they find right. And you're right, all religion is close minded if you don't think about your options. I've thought about other religions. You can't just blindly accept how you're raised.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, he's right. "theist" is a person who believes in God. "a" means not. If you don't believe in God, you're an atheist, by the simplest and most obvious definition.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was wondering the same thing. That is kind of the definition of atheism.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Atheism isn't the opposite of Christian. There are other religions out there. If you aren't a Christian or an Atheist, you can still be a Buddhist, Hindu, etc.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@245918 (rosinbackrider): @245933 (The_Enlightened): @246060 (Anonymous): @245944 (Flyer): I'm not involved in this particular discussion but I'd like to point out that being an atheist is different than being nonreligious.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(F.L): Why is it that when atheists say God doesn't exist, it's propaganda, but when Christians or members of other faiths say God exists, it isn't? Just wondering. Plus, what gives Christians or any other religion the right to decide if it's okay for two people to fall in love. Love is beautiful in all shapes, sexes, races, religions, and forms.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lol most people need to research before posting, kapeesh?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hmm I think these debates over the Internet can go on forever, but I guarantee all of you that no one will change their opinion based on what you write. So let's be nice (: and let's not have some Christians give the rest of us a bad rap. We love everybody, we just may not agree with them. And that's okay (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The person that posted this is an idiot... Nobody likes to see arguments about God and the Bible and whether it is fact or fiction ... People u will never convince either side which one day could be a detriment 2 the other but please... It is foolish to tell someone somethig they don't want or aren't willing to here ( not referring to any side of the arguments particularly) :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Referring to your second sentence, I like to see them. I guess I disagree with this whole comment.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If religious people were rational there would be no religion.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@guassian- unless there is two of you I think I have argued with you before??

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@guassian- unless there is two of you I think I have argued with you before??

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't understand why people need to follow what God says. "The Bible says, ________ so I ________ too." Get a mind of your own, I think.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, the "no haircut" thing comes from 1 Corinthians 11, for women anyway. That chapter also says men should get haircuts.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I love convos like this. I learn a lot from both sides.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You should also know that the Christian dark ages delayed scientific progression for hundreds of years.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Is it just me, or is anyone else freaked out by the word sacrifice? -_-

by Anonymous 13 years ago