But there are many ways to pronounce things in America as well! Not everyone has a southern accent. Or a New England accent. There is no one American accent, just like there is no ONE British accent. A person from London will speak differently than one from Liverpool. So I agree that the the English language originated from England, but that doesn't mean its the only way to speak it. America is a melting pot of different cultures, so it is only natural that we don't speak English the same way England does.
Sorry, but the bit in that article about all British accents being 'non-rhotic' is bollocks. I'm from the South of England and speak 'BBC English' as they so call it and know perfectly well how I pronounce a word.
Meh, I think this whole debate's pointless anyway. (:
It didn't say all British accents are non-rhotic. It said "the terms “British accent” and “American accent” are oversimplifications; there were, and still are, many constantly-evolving regional British and American accents." That means there are different accents in different areas.
This is what I used to think when I was five. Then I did this wonderous thing called "maturing." It's very complex, and I'm not sure if the OP would understand it.
Wow. Perhaps you should consider eating a slice of humble pie and shutting up.
We are different COUNTRIES and if I recall, a majority of us speak ENGLISH. You go to Africa and you will find people that speak english perfectly, but it sounds different then how people in America or England speak. Does that make them wrong? NO.
English is the most common found language in the world, and we all say things differently. No one is right, no one is wrong when it comes to pronouncing words. Well....unless you pronounce Cat as Fhieghirgnirguherfofim. Then you might need some help.
Also, I have never met someone who said 'warer' or anything of the sort. And I'm in a country based-cowboy filled town where 80% of the people have a drawl.
Yet these are my opinions, you are entitled to your own.
Everyone needs to stop the argument cause there is no seriously old book from the time that the english language was made saying how to say certain words. Accents are accents there not the language it's just how you say a certain word.
Not a word, everything you pronounce!
For example... umm.. dog!
Americans say something like daaag
and... water!
Americans say like warer, with a rolling 'r' sound
Such a pointless argument. Do you REALLY care about this? It's so stupid. We both speak the same language. If you and me were to meet up and talk we would both understand each other. So what's the big deal?
I apologize for my argument which is, as you mentioned, pointless. My intention was not to insult Americans but to point out how we pronounce differently. I may have been wrong to call your pronunciation wrong. After all, who's to say what's wrong?
To whom I do not apologize is to Damaged, who clearly went to insult instead of having a solid argument, so Damaged, shut up, you are worthless.
i have never heard any american pronounce water warer or dog daag. get over yourself. there are different ways to pronounce things. like data. you can say it day-ta or dah-ta but both are correct. same with british and american spelling color and colour are both correct.
My friend says gat instead of got, but that's just because he was from a certain part of the state that speaks a little differently. And when we say ladder, it doesn't sound like latter. I'm American, and I'm sorry, you're wrong.
Actually, I think you're thinking of either a regional Northern accent or another regional accent. The stereotypical British person speaks nothing like that. I should know. :L
you should take it as a compliment that americans think you talk that way. most americans put a british accent at high esteem and it represents upper class. I myself hope to make a home in england someday, and it would just be nice if people didn't assume i'm a kentucky hick.
Ahem. There is no 'correct' way to pronounce, for example, the letter r. It's just a line on a page. The only thing connecting the written letter to the sound we make with our mouths is convention, an agreement between people; when you change the people, very often you also change the agreement. Saying that one convention is correct while another is wrong is like saying "Silly Germans, this isn't an apfel, it's an apple. How could you be so wrong?"
The English accent doesn't pronounce their r's right. Example: car. they say it something like cah....well no. lol its much more harder to type than to say. But all i'm saying is that i think the American accent is the more correct one. I do love English accents, they're beautiful, but i think Americans can pronounce better.
I think that's the difference between rhotic and non-rhotic speech. Americans pronounce the letter R, while the British don't do it as often. That doesn't mean it's incorrect, though, just because the written letter aren't pronounced.
I mean, look at the French language. They don't pronounce a lot of their letter, but what are you going to say? "You're speaking your language incorrectly?" It's just a stylistic approach that evolved, and apparently a popular style: French and English accents are usually highly regarded.
This post is stupid, we all speak English (those of us who actually speak English, obviously French people speak French, and so-on), end of story. There are literally thousands of different accents and pronunciations within the English language that no one could be correct and none could be wrong.
In Boston (maybe other places I don't know of), they say "cah" and "yahd", not in New Jersey (where I live), or any other states around here that I've been to.
Well, up here in Maine we do. Of course the accent all depends if they're a transplant or not. I wasn't grouping New Jersey in anyway, seeing as it isn't a New England state.
This is like saying the Chinese don't pronounce English correctly while they're speaking Chinese. In England you speak differently than we do so it's not going to be the exact same language. For example we say "pants" and you say "trousers" (I know that because of my British friend).
So you pronounce your language correctly and we pronounce ours correctly.
ok, umm...there is no friggin' 'right' way to say something. accents are acquired, and no one accent is right. it's just the way it is. accents are what separate us from one another, they're part of our culture. this is actually a really ignorant comment, and they aren't right.
Why are most people talking about British accents instead of just english ones like it says in the post? Us Welsh'uns speak totally different, along witht the Scotts and the Irish people. But don't wory, I'm only saying this because I have nothing interesting to bring to this debate and feel left out.
No problem ;) I know it's a stereotype, but I think it's as cute as hell. I regret that in my brief time in Canada, I didn't pay more attention to the accents.
Both America and England have way loads of different accents in different parts of the country, so saying that Britain does it better is generalising. Even though it is ENGLISH, even the English speak with different accents. Like London and Liverpool accents are totally different. So that's a stupid thing to say. I'm British btw.
There are just some words everyone should say, like blimey, rubbish, and grotesque. I know that last one isn't specifically English, but more people should say it. Of course no one should pronounce Tuna as Teuna. It's just wrong.
There are tons of different accents within England as well. Which of them are pronouncing it properly? Cockneys? Scousers? Geordies? Brummies? Mancunians? There is no "right" way to say anything.
I'll say this again; just because a language is older or whatever, doesn't make it right. Trace language back to grunts and noises on that logic, it's the oldest and therefore the proper way to speak!
I'm from Britain..and tbh half the people from England don't pronounce words properly anyway and talk like 'chavs' which I hate..I'm not sure if all Americans know what Chavs are but ah well. But I still accept that's how some people talk. Everyone talks different, doesn't mean it's wrong.
Oh dear. So much drama on this one comment. It's hilarous. I'm American and I perfer British accents, mostly because I am a 14 year old girl whos hormones are crazy. ;D haha. Stop aguring you guys. We all speak English, no one is speaking Spanish- ha, joke. I'm Dominican. Don't worry. Ha, THIS WOULD BE A HILAROUS AGUREMENT TO WATCH IN REAL LIFE. haaa<3
I live in the USA and I hate it when people use stereotypical British accents.
Ex: "Well, good DAY, sah! I HOPE you had an absoLUTEly WONdahful day! Blimey! I am late foh wohk! I DO have to go! Pip pip, cheerio!"
How do you even know what proper is? It's like assuming that everyone sees purple as well... Purple. This post is bullshit because something like this cannot be argued. Australians, who came from Brits technically should have the same accent, yet it's EXTREMELY different. L2argue the argueable. (besides all accents have an attractive qualit about them)
Technically English is derived from many languages the most prominent being Latin so if you're arguing where English started you should shut the fuck up because its not like they made up even half the words themselves
There's no right or wrong way to say English words. There isn't a right or wrong for any language at all. It might SEEM like it, but it's traditional. Traditional does NOT mean RIGHT. It's just how much that way is accepted.
Like if we spoke English like the Russians do for centuries, then some guy would talk like how we do NOW and we'd think he's a freak. (just trying to example it)
I agree! Another example.. We could change the time from 12:00 midnight to 9:00AM. It would still be right! But it would be dark at 9 and bright at 12.
I love how everyone points straight to Americans when they're talking about how we 'butchered the language and pronunciation' but in reality American's aren't the only ones who speak fucking English in this world god damn it.
I assume this is a joke meant to jack with people. Accents don't bother me at all. That said, I don't go gaga over them either.As long as the person is understood, who gives a damn.
for some reason, a lot of people I meet seem to think I'm british...and others think I'm a boy. So, apperently, I'm a british boy insted of an american girl...
I clicked yes, but now i am not so sure. Sometimes when i hear lots of people talking with a british accent, say on a tv show, those feelings of happiness and elation at the wonder of the sound seem to fade a bit.
What im trying to say is that i think we do need other accents, if only so we can truly appreciate British ones.
This argument really made me laugh.. I mean, come on guys, seriously?! I think the original post was meant to be a joke anyway so.. Yeah. I'm English and do love my accent but I really hate it when Americans either complain about the way we pronouce things, vice versa or when people argue about which is correct. I mean, seriously, get over it. Yeah, so, the language evolved from Latin, Greek, Germanic languages and assorted other influences in England but people did their own thing with it. So what. Go into etymology if you really care.
However, the British posts being marked down and American posts marked up at the top is kind of stupid.. It's really not a big deal.
As far as I'm concerned nothing is funnier than the real townie wexford (that's in Ireland folks) accent. Youtube it I'm sure there's something on it :) of course the Dub accent is pretty funny too
I think all the singers on here will agree with me when i say: singing with a Brittish accent creates a much more beautiful tone and gets rid of all the ugly r's we use in America.
English came from England, which is why he is saying there is no Englsh accets. There is an American accent, numerous ones, on the English language, and there are numerous accents within England itself. But the poster is correct. &he never said there aren't such things as accents, just that there aren't English ones.
Seriously, this became British vs. American? A lot of other countries speak English with their own accents. Fuck you guys. This is why the American colonists stopped putting up with you; you and your damn high horses got on EVERYONE'S nerves.
I hate it when people say there are multiple ways to pronounce things, then many people out there sound like bloody idiots. Same with grammar and spelling...
From what I can tell, Canadian accents aren't terribly different from American accents or, for that matter, New Zealand accents. We're not the only ones who decided to keep pronouncing our Rs, apparently. :P
I've got to say, as a New Zealander, Canadian accents are NOTHING like our accents. I know heaps of Canadians that live here and their accents sound more like accents from the USA. We don't pronounce our r's. Seriously. They're no where near the same.
Oh. Well, there was a period when I was researching New Zealand out of pure interest, and most of people in the videos I saw had very similar accents to what I'm used to. Maybe they were all filmed in Gore? I don't know, but that's just the impression I got. You sound knowledgeable, though.
My Canadian accent is far different from anything I've heard in the States. But my Canadian accent is a east coast one. There are hundreds of different accents throughout Canada alone. And my friend Stew is from NZ, he had an awesome accent!
Of course this is going to get heaps of 'No ways', there's more Americans on here than English. But the English accent was the first way of speaking English. However, since then, it has evolved in different bits of the country.
Actually, if you haven't seen all the other comments with facts and articles to back them up, the first way of speaking English in Britain was closer to today's American accent.
I'm pretty sure that if you did your research you'd find out that speech started out as grunts and noises. So by your logic, because it's older, it must be correct.
I didn't say it was the correct way, I said it was the first way. Of English, not speech. And I said it because Kaitlyn said that the English accent was the first way of speaking English, and it wasn't.
Did you read the articles that Anonymous posted? The original "British" accent went through more changes while the American accent remained rhotic.
When you think about it, it makes sense: England, the country of the language's origin, had more authority over its changing course. The United States, the borrower of the language, felt less authorized to change it. It's all very interesting.
Of course, neither one is more correct than the other, because both are accepted.
wtf, that doesn't make sense. Do you really think that the US "felt less authorized". Were they thinking "Oh, no we better to keep the pronounciation the same so we don't offend the Brits." I doubt it, especially in that time period. During the American revolution, they wanted nothing to do with Britain so they would actually have been more likely to change the language just to spite the British.
Actually, the British are where the southern accents came from. It's the attempt from colonies like Georgia (the Loyalists in the American Revolution - The ones who fought on the British side) to sound just like the British, because they thought everything they did was the right way. Just saying, it wasn't that the Americans wanted nothing to do with the Brits...
The middle colonies, not the southern ones, held the majority of loyalists. Patriots controlled most of the south and suppressed any loyalist support there, so your theory doesn't fit. Besides, even if it were true, the fact that their children would grow up in an independent US would mostly eliminate this loyalist influence. But I was just saying it's unlikely that any of that had anything to do with the changing of the accents. It was more likely just a natural evolution of speech due more to the influx of different cultures and languages than political motivation.
I find it HILARIOUS that you act like ALL Americans are patriots.
America sucks. I'm American. There are American accents, Australian accents, English accents... It's all accents. English was not the first original language ever created, so you have an accent. We ALL have accents.
DougalHanson, you stereotype Americans. Not ALL of us decide to be dumbass, Jesus-obsessed, nationalistic pieces of shit. And trust me, the majority of people leading America ARE dumbass Jesus-obsessed nationalistic pieces of shit, but just because the majority is does not mean everyone is. Learn a thing or 2 about stereotypes. You English blokes have some. Buck toothed, suit-wearing, beer-hating, pussies. That's your stereotype over here, and I know it's not true for every Englishman (fuck, it's not even the majority).
I'd appreciate it if you were a little less patriotic/nationalistic and more reasonable and rational, or else you're being a hypocrite.
Us English blokes? How come you automatically class everyone who is not American as English?
I'm Australian.
America uses 25% of the world's oil and is only 4% of the world's population. If anything your greedy and self righteous.
It's an internet thing. England and America are at each other's throats, and I'm a former /b/tard so every time I see somebody bitch about America, they're normally English.
Also because the OP is about ENGLAND AND AMERICA.
If you mean "your" as in "you're" as in "the big business men and leaders", then yes, I agree. But if you mean "your" as in "you're" as in "you yourself are greedy and self righteous," then you are so wrong. I don't consider myself human because I hate humans, but I can say that I'm no different than you are, most likely. Maybe I live in a smaller or larger house, maybe I have little or more friends, and maybe our personalities are similar or different, but in the end I'm still a person. You act as if we're the ONLY country who thinks we're all that.
And by "I don't consider myself human," I don't mean I'm any better than them. I consider myself an alien. And all of my friends. Any friend of mine that is human I will hate.
I don't consider myself human because I hate humans. It's a me thing.
I am an American but for fucks sake, man, I am NOT greedy. You're a real asshole and retard if you actually think the people are like the leaders of America (the leaders are fucking 'tards) and the big CEOs of America. We may be the richest, but our education? Shitty. Religion? Shitty. Judicial system? Shitty. Capitalism? Shitty (it's not even full capitalism, it's socialism and capitalism mixed together). It's all pretty shitty, and I can tell you that one, I am not greedy. Two, America sucks (for seriously). Three, we're NOT better than any other country out there. And four, you're retarded if you actually think all Americans are the fucking same.
I think its funny how people talk about how a race, culture, ect. talks trash about a race, culture, ect. and then by doing that are making thier own race, culture,ect. look bad and then starting the cycle all over again.
That's not right because not only Americans speak English differently than people from the UK or whatever. There's plenty of Spanish, Asian, French, German etc. people who speak English with different accents. So yes, everyone has an accent and nobody's on a fucking high horse.
Language is something that is constantly evolving...get off your high horse. Accents are beautiful.
not always, unless you think redneck accents are beautiful
I hate everything redneck.
try irre-fuckin-sistable
Uh, no. There's many correct ways to pronounce things.
*There are
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There's a reason why they put r's at the end of some words, britfags.
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lol
I laughed so hard.
Ahahaha. Awesome.
I love you.
How do you have such a high comment rating when you comment is so insulting?
It's probably from a bunch of americans who got butthurt after seeing the original post.
Your mom is butthurt.
I am so gonna use that...
Americans say 'and' wrong. They say 'end' when it clearly has a friggin' A. Fuckin' Americans.
I have never heard an American pronounce "and" as "end".
I know in the South, we kind of drop the "a" and the "d" and just use the "n," but I have never heard an American say end instead of and.
sad you don't sound as hot as they do?
Sad you don't look as hot as us?
I'm not british
Then why were you arguing for their accent
I like the way it sounds, but I do think that American english is clearer and easier to understand
yeah maybe because you come from america
to the rest of the world you sound like cowboys
But there are many ways to pronounce things in America as well! Not everyone has a southern accent. Or a New England accent. There is no one American accent, just like there is no ONE British accent. A person from London will speak differently than one from Liverpool. So I agree that the the English language originated from England, but that doesn't mean its the only way to speak it. America is a melting pot of different cultures, so it is only natural that we don't speak English the same way England does.
A+ for you.
actually....http://www.nicholasjohnpatrick....ritish-accents
so american accents came first, and therefore americans pronounce things properly :p
but british accents are still amusing :]
What about Canadian accents, eh?
:( I was going to post this.
Good job:)
Sorry, but the bit in that article about all British accents being 'non-rhotic' is bollocks. I'm from the South of England and speak 'BBC English' as they so call it and know perfectly well how I pronounce a word.
Meh, I think this whole debate's pointless anyway. (:
It didn't say all British accents are non-rhotic. It said "the terms “British accent” and “American accent” are oversimplifications; there were, and still are, many constantly-evolving regional British and American accents." That means there are different accents in different areas.
ERM you speak English, which kind of means that the English speak it properly.
Wot?! Wiey un tuh bluddeh ell wos tis mahd thuh POTD?
This is what I used to think when I was five. Then I did this wonderous thing called "maturing." It's very complex, and I'm not sure if the OP would understand it.
This is POTD because Anthony is British, isn't it?
I see how it is.
Some people haven't gotten over the revolutionary war..
What do we pronounce wrong? Just wondering...
You pronounce "Internet" as "Innernet".
Haha not really.
No, not quite.
The fact that you pronounce the o's like a's? Maybe?
Or the fact that the d's are more like r's?
Oh, I meant t's
actually d's too, as in ladder
Why would I want an american accent if I have a british one which is the proper way to pronounce things?
get the fuck over yourself you dick
Wow. Perhaps you should consider eating a slice of humble pie and shutting up.
We are different COUNTRIES and if I recall, a majority of us speak ENGLISH. You go to Africa and you will find people that speak english perfectly, but it sounds different then how people in America or England speak. Does that make them wrong? NO.
English is the most common found language in the world, and we all say things differently. No one is right, no one is wrong when it comes to pronouncing words. Well....unless you pronounce Cat as Fhieghirgnirguherfofim. Then you might need some help.
Also, I have never met someone who said 'warer' or anything of the sort. And I'm in a country based-cowboy filled town where 80% of the people have a drawl.
Yet these are my opinions, you are entitled to your own.
Hahahahahahah "Well....unless you pronounce Cat as Fhieghirgnirguherfofim" ♥
Everyone needs to stop the argument cause there is no seriously old book from the time that the english language was made saying how to say certain words. Accents are accents there not the language it's just how you say a certain word.
Not a word, everything you pronounce!
For example... umm.. dog!
Americans say something like daaag
and... water!
Americans say like warer, with a rolling 'r' sound
Uhm, actually, not ALL Americans pronounce words like that, jackass.
Such a pointless argument. Do you REALLY care about this? It's so stupid. We both speak the same language. If you and me were to meet up and talk we would both understand each other. So what's the big deal?
I apologize for my argument which is, as you mentioned, pointless. My intention was not to insult Americans but to point out how we pronounce differently. I may have been wrong to call your pronunciation wrong. After all, who's to say what's wrong?
To whom I do not apologize is to Damaged, who clearly went to insult instead of having a solid argument, so Damaged, shut up, you are worthless.
I apologize again, rboyer23
Oh it's alright. An argument is good every once in awhile and thanks for being mature about it rather than being a huge douche lol.
i have never heard any american pronounce water warer or dog daag. get over yourself. there are different ways to pronounce things. like data. you can say it day-ta or dah-ta but both are correct. same with british and american spelling color and colour are both correct.
I have NEVER heard an American say those words like that.
My friend says gat instead of got, but that's just because he was from a certain part of the state that speaks a little differently. And when we say ladder, it doesn't sound like latter. I'm American, and I'm sorry, you're wrong.
Im pretty sure I don't pronounce "water" "warer" or "dog" "daaaag"
British: "Can I have a spo' of tea, sah?"
American: "Can you pour me some tea, sir?"
Which sounds right?
American: true dat
British: I do say that your comment was absoLUTELY coherent and thought-provoking and not shallow and pedantic in the least. Fine thinking, sah.
BRITAIN IS NOT A LITTLE VILLAGE WHERE EVERYONE KNOWS EACH OTHER AND SHARES JAM. THERE ARE A FEW COUNTRIES AND REGIONS.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR CAPS LOCK BUTTON? IS IT STUCK? YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET THAT FIXED!
NO, I'M FINE THANK YOU!
WELL THEN, HAVE A NICE DAY!
YOU TOO, AND MAKE SURE TO GIVE MY LOVE TO THE WIFE AND KIDS!
Actually, I think you're thinking of either a regional Northern accent or another regional accent. The stereotypical British person speaks nothing like that. I should know. :L
actually, the american for that should be "yall should git some tea now, yahear?"
I consider Tennessee to be its own country, so they don't count! Lol, jk.
do you know how many states actually talk like that?
not very many. and even in those states, a lot of people don't even talk like that.
well not a lot of brits talk like the english example up there. this is exactly my point, thank you :]
Hmmm... touche' :)
you should take it as a compliment that americans think you talk that way. most americans put a british accent at high esteem and it represents upper class. I myself hope to make a home in england someday, and it would just be nice if people didn't assume i'm a kentucky hick.
Umm, nice try, but we're not all country. Dick.
nice try, but we dont all leave consonants out of our words.
should not be POTD!
Why not? It humored me
i don't know.. like it made me laugh and all, but it isn't the funniest i have ever seen
Eh, I don't think POTD is really for the most funniest, imo of course.
It's not always meant to be funny; it can also be interesting or thought provoking. Or snarky, in this case. :P
idk doesn't seem to be "awesome" to me. but it isn't my decision so oh well! until tomorrow at 7pm!
The proper way to say it is "Where the hell did you get that GARBAGE from?"
Learn the proper way.
(that was sarcasm)
Ahem. There is no 'correct' way to pronounce, for example, the letter r. It's just a line on a page. The only thing connecting the written letter to the sound we make with our mouths is convention, an agreement between people; when you change the people, very often you also change the agreement. Saying that one convention is correct while another is wrong is like saying "Silly Germans, this isn't an apfel, it's an apple. How could you be so wrong?"
Well said. Probably the most insightful comment on here.
Well said.
This is like when spanish people argue what country speaks spanish the most correct. Pointless.
The English accent doesn't pronounce their r's right. Example: car. they say it something like cah....well no. lol its much more harder to type than to say. But all i'm saying is that i think the American accent is the more correct one. I do love English accents, they're beautiful, but i think Americans can pronounce better.
I think that's the difference between rhotic and non-rhotic speech. Americans pronounce the letter R, while the British don't do it as often. That doesn't mean it's incorrect, though, just because the written letter aren't pronounced.
I mean, look at the French language. They don't pronounce a lot of their letter, but what are you going to say? "You're speaking your language incorrectly?" It's just a stylistic approach that evolved, and apparently a popular style: French and English accents are usually highly regarded.
Love it!
This post is stupid, we all speak English (those of us who actually speak English, obviously French people speak French, and so-on), end of story. There are literally thousands of different accents and pronunciations within the English language that no one could be correct and none could be wrong.
Here in New England states, we don't pronounce our r's "correctly" either. We say things like "cah', "yahd" etc.
In Boston (maybe other places I don't know of), they say "cah" and "yahd", not in New Jersey (where I live), or any other states around here that I've been to.
Well, up here in Maine we do. Of course the accent all depends if they're a transplant or not. I wasn't grouping New Jersey in anyway, seeing as it isn't a New England state.
in welsh and scottish, the "r" is rolled.....
This is like saying the Chinese don't pronounce English correctly while they're speaking Chinese. In England you speak differently than we do so it's not going to be the exact same language. For example we say "pants" and you say "trousers" (I know that because of my British friend).
So you pronounce your language correctly and we pronounce ours correctly.
if you do your research you will find that the current english accent developed after the "american" accent
Where the hell did you get that rubbish from?
So basically, the old British accent was like American accents today. Sorry if this 'rubbish' can't get through to you.
http://www.freerepublic.com/foc...posts?page=165
ok, umm...there is no friggin' 'right' way to say something. accents are acquired, and no one accent is right. it's just the way it is. accents are what separate us from one another, they're part of our culture. this is actually a really ignorant comment, and they aren't right.
there's no such thing as being a douchebag. it's just the effect created when one believes they're superior to everyone else and expresses it rudely.
♥
Why are most people talking about British accents instead of just english ones like it says in the post? Us Welsh'uns speak totally different, along witht the Scotts and the Irish people. But don't wory, I'm only saying this because I have nothing interesting to bring to this debate and feel left out.
I hate how brits pronounce the word "literally". It sounds like "lit-trolly"
Old post, but I'm going to comment anyway.
We are both pronouncing it differently from how it's spelled.
"Lit-trolley" is leaving out a syllable, "Liderally" is not pronouncing the "t".
Hate is such a strong word . . . but wow, you really hit the nail on the head with that one.
Aww really? I love that. No wait. I strongly enjoy to hear that.
I live in America and I pronounce it that way.
as opposed to the American "LIRRRRREEEERRALLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
I have never heard 'literally' pronounced like that in America.
Hahahaha. This is too ridiculous to even be an argument, 'course there's no right or wrong way to say things. But it sure is fun to watch.
Personally I think Canadian accents are VERY sexy. Just saying.
Noo doot aboot it.
Why, isn't everyone jes' bein' so kind to little ol' me today! :D all y'all are real sweet.
I know, eh?
Goah, that was hot.
i came
Awe, thank you :) Uhm... Eh?
No problem ;) I know it's a stereotype, but I think it's as cute as hell. I regret that in my brief time in Canada, I didn't pay more attention to the accents.
Both America and England have way loads of different accents in different parts of the country, so saying that Britain does it better is generalising. Even though it is ENGLISH, even the English speak with different accents. Like London and Liverpool accents are totally different. So that's a stupid thing to say. I'm British btw.
There are just some words everyone should say, like blimey, rubbish, and grotesque. I know that last one isn't specifically English, but more people should say it. Of course no one should pronounce Tuna as Teuna. It's just wrong.
Bloody hell, I think you're on to something! I love saying 'bloody hell'
And Shenanigans! I'm not sure where that one originated, but I love it :]
I love "rubbish." And I use "grotesque" all the time.
There are tons of different accents within England as well. Which of them are pronouncing it properly? Cockneys? Scousers? Geordies? Brummies? Mancunians? There is no "right" way to say anything.
thank you!
That isn't the point of the original post, he's saying there's NO British accent when there is, even though it has the proper pronunciation.
I'll say this again; just because a language is older or whatever, doesn't make it right. Trace language back to grunts and noises on that logic, it's the oldest and therefore the proper way to speak!
I'm from Britain..and tbh half the people from England don't pronounce words properly anyway and talk like 'chavs' which I hate..I'm not sure if all Americans know what Chavs are but ah well. But I still accept that's how some people talk. Everyone talks different, doesn't mean it's wrong.
Oh dear. So much drama on this one comment. It's hilarous. I'm American and I perfer British accents, mostly because I am a 14 year old girl whos hormones are crazy. ;D haha. Stop aguring you guys. We all speak English, no one is speaking Spanish- ha, joke. I'm Dominican. Don't worry. Ha, THIS WOULD BE A HILAROUS AGUREMENT TO WATCH IN REAL LIFE. haaa<3
I live in the USA and I hate it when people use stereotypical British accents.
Ex: "Well, good DAY, sah! I HOPE you had an absoLUTEly WONdahful day! Blimey! I am late foh wohk! I DO have to go! Pip pip, cheerio!"
I'm pretty sure there are more accents in the world and not just a british English or American English one.
At the end of the day, Britain>America. Come on, if you were to choose your own accents, you'd pick English accent over American accent ANYDAY.
How do you even know what proper is? It's like assuming that everyone sees purple as well... Purple. This post is bullshit because something like this cannot be argued. Australians, who came from Brits technically should have the same accent, yet it's EXTREMELY different. L2argue the argueable. (besides all accents have an attractive qualit about them)
Technically English is derived from many languages the most prominent being Latin so if you're arguing where English started you should shut the fuck up because its not like they made up even half the words themselves
All of these comments remind me of this:
Enjoy. (:
Then why are there sub-accents among accents (i.e New York, Southern)?
I think it usually reflects the interaction between different cultures and languages in the region.
i never seen a POTD with so much negative lol
I'm sure there have been worse.
Btw, does anyone know if there is an archive of POTDs?
http://www.amirite.net/potd :{)
like all the potds, right?
www.amirite.net/potd, I believe
when you're on the homepage, click on the tag that says "Post of the Day," it'll bring you to the list of past POTDs :)
@665627 (JamiLovesYou): @665628 (SamG): Thank all of you guys! Pretty eerie that you all posted at about the same time, though.
Whoa, that is pretty eerie. Only a few seconds apart. :O
um, no. brits have it wrong. but AMERICANS have it worse. SOUTH AFRICAN ACCENT IS THE WAY TO GO
South African accents ARE SO BADASS!
I'm reading all of these comments in my mind in a Welsh accent anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me as much :P
this is rather funny. i mean really. its an accident. If the end of the world comes who is really gonna fucking care?
There's no right or wrong way to say English words. There isn't a right or wrong for any language at all. It might SEEM like it, but it's traditional. Traditional does NOT mean RIGHT. It's just how much that way is accepted.
Like if we spoke English like the Russians do for centuries, then some guy would talk like how we do NOW and we'd think he's a freak. (just trying to example it)
I agree! Another example.. We could change the time from 12:00 midnight to 9:00AM. It would still be right! But it would be dark at 9 and bright at 12.
Jimmy Carr says this in his standup routine
"English" accent? Hate to break it to you but.....there's quite a few.
Hate to break it to you but... I think she was talking about it in general.
hate to break it to you, but i think your MUM was talking about it in general.
which means i win.
Hate to break it to you but... my father wasn't so it evens out.
Which means our scores are equal.
touche.
I love how everyone points straight to Americans when they're talking about how we 'butchered the language and pronunciation' but in reality American's aren't the only ones who speak fucking English in this world god damn it.
I assume this is a joke meant to jack with people. Accents don't bother me at all. That said, I don't go gaga over them either.As long as the person is understood, who gives a damn.
I can't believe I started to read all of these comments. Hate to break it to you guys, but this is just a silly waste of time.
Trolling; You're Doing it Right.
well i think we would need a third party to decide this.
but this post made me laugh. i only nw'd it cuz i'm american :P
for some reason, a lot of people I meet seem to think I'm british...and others think I'm a boy. So, apperently, I'm a british boy insted of an american girl...
DIAGON ALLEY. DIAGONALLY. Thank goodness I pronounce the latter the "American" way, otherwise we would be dropping Harry Potter references everywhere.
wait what? if they're two different words we diferentiate between the two SEPERATE words. which is why we would end up in DIAGON ALLEY
This doesn't make a lick of sense!
I found myself saying diagonally without the O. Strange.
YES YES ...the Angles INVENTED english but even among themselves they have different accents, thats why i put "no way"
I clicked yes, but now i am not so sure. Sometimes when i hear lots of people talking with a british accent, say on a tv show, those feelings of happiness and elation at the wonder of the sound seem to fade a bit.
What im trying to say is that i think we do need other accents, if only so we can truly appreciate British ones.
well.... i love the brit accent and sometimes i talk like it because its pretty cool. but i'm american
Mid-land accent FTW!
Your right, the English created the English language, and the Americans 'messed with it'.
holy shit. this is the POTD?!
This argument really made me laugh.. I mean, come on guys, seriously?! I think the original post was meant to be a joke anyway so.. Yeah. I'm English and do love my accent but I really hate it when Americans either complain about the way we pronouce things, vice versa or when people argue about which is correct. I mean, seriously, get over it. Yeah, so, the language evolved from Latin, Greek, Germanic languages and assorted other influences in England but people did their own thing with it. So what. Go into etymology if you really care.
However, the British posts being marked down and American posts marked up at the top is kind of stupid.. It's really not a big deal.
As far as I'm concerned nothing is funnier than the real townie wexford (that's in Ireland folks) accent. Youtube it I'm sure there's something on it :) of course the Dub accent is pretty funny too
By Dub I'm assuming you mean Dublin? Well anyway I love how they say motherfucker as MODDAHFUCKAH I always laugh
Yeah the good ol' dubliners! Personally I like Jayz-us (Jesus). And no Im not trying to start a Religious debate with anyone reading this :)
in ur fase johnjammersmitherdude no1 aree http://www.amirite.net/393880 w/ u!!!
I think all the singers on here will agree with me when i say: singing with a Brittish accent creates a much more beautiful tone and gets rid of all the ugly r's we use in America.
I didn't read all these comments...
But just throwing this out there..John Oliver, the comedian, said this like, two years ago.
English came from England, which is why he is saying there is no Englsh accets. There is an American accent, numerous ones, on the English language, and there are numerous accents within England itself. But the poster is correct. &he never said there aren't such things as accents, just that there aren't English ones.
Ever heard of the British Accent (for example)? They have one.
stole it from a comedian, heard a british comic say it before. Your unorigional and discust me that you took that as your credit.
It disgusts me that you can't use grammar or spelling that's even close to correct.
This was only made POTD because anthony is British, way to play "favourites".
i think american accents are correct, well proper american accents(:
a potd going negative?
This isn't the first
the word again, why do we Americans say, "Ah-gen" when by spelling it obviously should be said "ah-gain"
ain is NOT en
YOHOHO AND A BOTTLE OF RUM. lolololol oj gin? but seriously is it not and then again why? jajaja
Seriously, this became British vs. American? A lot of other countries speak English with their own accents. Fuck you guys. This is why the American colonists stopped putting up with you; you and your damn high horses got on EVERYONE'S nerves.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Is how this whole conversation made me feel.
& Yes I realize I sound ignorant by cursing so much, but I don't FUCKING care.
It's not the cursing that makes you sound ignorant, it's the history bit. And the generalisation bit. Just saying.
what is amirite? coming to with a negative quote of the day?
(rambo+monkey): *POST of the day. And it's not the first.
(rambo+monkey): POTD isn't about having a happy, funny, well-liked post every day.
yeah well it should be somewhat interesting.
I hate it when people say there are multiple ways to pronounce things, then many people out there sound like bloody idiots. Same with grammar and spelling...
i love english accents. but that's not the correct pronunciation.
really west coast americans pronounce all their letter sounds
Don't assume that you know anything about the British culture. Stupid poster.
And don't assume that the poster isn't British. Stupid annoymous.
Think about it, America MUST have the correct pronunciation. Other wise why would they be talking so slow...?
teh brits ahh faggots.
People can't be a bundle of sticks!
Canadian accents surpass both the American and British forms.
From what I can tell, Canadian accents aren't terribly different from American accents or, for that matter, New Zealand accents. We're not the only ones who decided to keep pronouncing our Rs, apparently. :P
I've got to say, as a New Zealander, Canadian accents are NOTHING like our accents. I know heaps of Canadians that live here and their accents sound more like accents from the USA. We don't pronounce our r's. Seriously. They're no where near the same.
As a Canadian, I'll agree!
Most New Zealanders definitely do not say their r's. Only people from places like Gore in the south pronounce their r's...
Oh. Well, there was a period when I was researching New Zealand out of pure interest, and most of people in the videos I saw had very similar accents to what I'm used to. Maybe they were all filmed in Gore? I don't know, but that's just the impression I got. You sound knowledgeable, though.
My Canadian accent is far different from anything I've heard in the States. But my Canadian accent is a east coast one. There are hundreds of different accents throughout Canada alone. And my friend Stew is from NZ, he had an awesome accent!
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Of course this is going to get heaps of 'No ways', there's more Americans on here than English. But the English accent was the first way of speaking English. However, since then, it has evolved in different bits of the country.
Actually, if you haven't seen all the other comments with facts and articles to back them up, the first way of speaking English in Britain was closer to today's American accent.
I'm pretty sure that if you did your research you'd find out that speech started out as grunts and noises. So by your logic, because it's older, it must be correct.
Ugh! Grr! Huh!
I didn't say it was the correct way, I said it was the first way. Of English, not speech. And I said it because Kaitlyn said that the English accent was the first way of speaking English, and it wasn't.
You people are all retarded. America rocks, England sucks. End of story.
Way to have a unbiased, open-minded opinion.
You're just mad because when you go over seas you have to wear a Canadian flag.
Actually, Great Britain MADE the English language, we have the correct pronunciation - it's you Americans that pronounce it wrong.
Did you read the articles that Anonymous posted? The original "British" accent went through more changes while the American accent remained rhotic.
When you think about it, it makes sense: England, the country of the language's origin, had more authority over its changing course. The United States, the borrower of the language, felt less authorized to change it. It's all very interesting.
Of course, neither one is more correct than the other, because both are accepted.
wtf, that doesn't make sense. Do you really think that the US "felt less authorized". Were they thinking "Oh, no we better to keep the pronounciation the same so we don't offend the Brits." I doubt it, especially in that time period. During the American revolution, they wanted nothing to do with Britain so they would actually have been more likely to change the language just to spite the British.
But I agree with the rest of your comment though.
Either one makes sense, if you ask me. It's not always the obvious answer that's true, but then again, sometimes it is.
Actually, the British are where the southern accents came from. It's the attempt from colonies like Georgia (the Loyalists in the American Revolution - The ones who fought on the British side) to sound just like the British, because they thought everything they did was the right way. Just saying, it wasn't that the Americans wanted nothing to do with the Brits...
The middle colonies, not the southern ones, held the majority of loyalists. Patriots controlled most of the south and suppressed any loyalist support there, so your theory doesn't fit. Besides, even if it were true, the fact that their children would grow up in an independent US would mostly eliminate this loyalist influence. But I was just saying it's unlikely that any of that had anything to do with the changing of the accents. It was more likely just a natural evolution of speech due more to the influx of different cultures and languages than political motivation.
Right! Americans are so wrong.
The only reason this got negative is because there are more americans on this site. You americans just think your the best
I find it HILARIOUS that you act like ALL Americans are patriots.
America sucks. I'm American. There are American accents, Australian accents, English accents... It's all accents. English was not the first original language ever created, so you have an accent. We ALL have accents.
DougalHanson, you stereotype Americans. Not ALL of us decide to be dumbass, Jesus-obsessed, nationalistic pieces of shit. And trust me, the majority of people leading America ARE dumbass Jesus-obsessed nationalistic pieces of shit, but just because the majority is does not mean everyone is. Learn a thing or 2 about stereotypes. You English blokes have some. Buck toothed, suit-wearing, beer-hating, pussies. That's your stereotype over here, and I know it's not true for every Englishman (fuck, it's not even the majority).
I'd appreciate it if you were a little less patriotic/nationalistic and more reasonable and rational, or else you're being a hypocrite.
I don't think a majority of people are jesus-obsesssed.... depends on where you are
Most states are Jesusland. It's annoying as fuck. I hate conservative areas.
Us English blokes? How come you automatically class everyone who is not American as English?
I'm Australian.
America uses 25% of the world's oil and is only 4% of the world's population. If anything your greedy and self righteous.
It's an internet thing. England and America are at each other's throats, and I'm a former /b/tard so every time I see somebody bitch about America, they're normally English.
Also because the OP is about ENGLAND AND AMERICA.
If you mean "your" as in "you're" as in "the big business men and leaders", then yes, I agree. But if you mean "your" as in "you're" as in "you yourself are greedy and self righteous," then you are so wrong. I don't consider myself human because I hate humans, but I can say that I'm no different than you are, most likely. Maybe I live in a smaller or larger house, maybe I have little or more friends, and maybe our personalities are similar or different, but in the end I'm still a person. You act as if we're the ONLY country who thinks we're all that.
And by "I don't consider myself human," I don't mean I'm any better than them. I consider myself an alien. And all of my friends. Any friend of mine that is human I will hate.
You don't consider yourself human...
I mean you are as in Americans as a whole
major generalisation
I don't consider myself human because I hate humans. It's a me thing.
I am an American but for fucks sake, man, I am NOT greedy. You're a real asshole and retard if you actually think the people are like the leaders of America (the leaders are fucking 'tards) and the big CEOs of America. We may be the richest, but our education? Shitty. Religion? Shitty. Judicial system? Shitty. Capitalism? Shitty (it's not even full capitalism, it's socialism and capitalism mixed together). It's all pretty shitty, and I can tell you that one, I am not greedy. Two, America sucks (for seriously). Three, we're NOT better than any other country out there. And four, you're retarded if you actually think all Americans are the fucking same.
...Hmmm that's strange. Our greedy and self righteous what?
I think its funny how people talk about how a race, culture, ect. talks trash about a race, culture, ect. and then by doing that are making thier own race, culture,ect. look bad and then starting the cycle all over again.
That's not right because not only Americans speak English differently than people from the UK or whatever. There's plenty of Spanish, Asian, French, German etc. people who speak English with different accents. So yes, everyone has an accent and nobody's on a fucking high horse.