If you can't drive in the HOV lane (carpool lane) when you're pregnant, then a fetus doesn't count as a person, amirite?

it does the same for e conjoined twins

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Conjoined twins aren't people, they're mutations.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

they're people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Any living being that is more than a single celled organism is a mutation. All people are mutations.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

what are you talking about?!?!?!?! of course conjoined twins are people!!!!! >=I

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay this is a truly dumb post.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

good point! you have thwarted life begins at conception!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Double homicides anyone? What about that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

post it

by Anonymous 13 years ago

done. let's have 'em homepaged at the same time.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

a life begins at conception, even if they are not ableto talk or walk around

by Anonymous 13 years ago

its okay, clearly this post is a joke considering everbody knows you can't put a baby in the womb in a seat, the real reason for this law. try again.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, no, no, no, no. Do not speak in that tone of voice to Anthony.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I would never! Check the @# again, its to anonymous.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I feel like a douche now :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

what's HOV?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

whoa! where's that at?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

abortion is wrong. PRO LIFE!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Dang, I'm pro choice but this is just low.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Life begins at conception (as a bunch of cells are living things), but is it human life?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Ron Paul): Not yet

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Ron Paul): Our souls is wht seperates us from other living things and every human has one from conception

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What makes humans so special?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*then

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Fail, no it's not *then, then is referring to a time period or a sequence of events such as "First I went to the store then I went to work." Than refers to comparative statements...such as the one OP used. Here's a helpful little website for more information on how wrong you are. http://grammartips.homestead.com/than.html

by Anonymous 13 years ago

lol epic fail, it's THEN "than" is comparison, as in "elephant is bigger than you" "then" has multiple meanings, "i'll call you then" "you go eat and then go to bed" and also "if x is this, then y is this"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That would be a minor fail. Stop over using "epic fail" people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i only said epic fail because he made an error while correcting someone else's "fail" i couldn't just say fail again

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Fixed.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

add a comma, too, plz

by Anonymous 13 years ago

got it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

:D that's so nice of you

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry, but if you think you get to ride in the HOV lane just because you're pregnant, than someone needs to mow your ego. You're pregnant, you're not a goddess. One person is in the car, and one person is getting out. Pregnant women don't buy two airplane tickets.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

then you have a very warped perception of what life is...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I just find this very funny, abortion discussion aside.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

bad grammar is bad

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*Bad *bad. If you're going to complain about someone else's grammar, make sure yours is good first.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm pretty sure that was the point of the comment, they were making fun of the grammar.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't think they should be allowed to drive in HOV lane just because they are prego. but I don't think they should be driving while pregnant at all. I believe in the double homicide thing though.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

...What? So do you think a fetus IS a person, or ISN'T? You just contradicted yourself, you can't be on both sides. Well okay, you can, but it just doesn't make sense.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(A Person :)): Abortion is murder, they aren't an extra passenger though. A pregnant woman doesn't buy two plane tickets. That is ridiculous. So is the HOV excuse.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i mean, really, a pro-choice post of the day. i'm a little pissed at that one

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I couldn't agree more

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I love you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why? This site its to express ideas. The wittier the better. Just because you don't agree with it, it doesn't mean it automatically can't be chosen as post of the day.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

abortion is clearly going to be controversial. if today is pro-choice, tomorrow better be pro-life, I believe the site is for users to post opinions yes, but, not for the administrator to push his beliefs, unless that's what he wants to do. Well that's unprofessional.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Come back with something funny, and maybe he'll post it. You can't get something for nothing. Oh and btw, if you really believe the admin is unprofessional than.. you don't have to be on his site. Took him a long time to create this site so that people like you can enjoy it. And he can't stand up for something that he believes in? Wow.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I understand its his site, I'm just saying taking a side like that won't get you anywhere, unless you only want pro-choice users, which is silly. Nobody is forcing me to be here, but I do like the site, I just think it'd be best not to have a biased post as post of the day, that's all.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If this post was blatantly pro-life, you wouldn't have given a damn, or complain a thing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Everyone always takes different sides. It's almost impossible NOT to have a biased post of the day.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think we should all just step back a little here and remember that this is not a serious post. We can have serious discussions on the comments if we want, but the original post was intended as a joke. I hope.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

WHATS HOV??????

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You can't deny that at conception, the embryo is alive. It may only be alive in the sense that any other single-celled organism can be called alive, but it is a living thing. It is also human as it has human DNA, and is this DNA is a mixture of the mother's and father's, but identical to neither, it must be a unique living human. Having said this, I fully support abortion for any reason, and as late as the mother wishes. The only exception is if the doctor determines the baby has a chance of surviving outside of the womb, in which case labour must be induced or a c-section given if that is what the mother asks for. I don't think we can force anyone to have another person growing inside of them, stealing their food, messing with their hormones and permanently changing their body, but when we refuse people abortions that is what we are doing. I do not think women should get abortions for stupid reasons. I do think they should be able to get abortions for stupid reasons.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I totally agree with you. Well said.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

See, you're clever! (unlike some people, probably including me :P) :) I agree with you completely. I think... :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i agree with the whole thing about having a choice. but if your having an abortion over something really stupid or if its your like 5th time having one then honestly woman start using some f***ing contraceptives or just stop having sex

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Stop having sex!?! Not an option :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

if you're going to the hospital when the baby is about to be born though, i think it would be okay for a pregnant person to want to go there faster. but i still agree with OP

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If a woman is in full labor and about to give birth, there is no way she would be able to drive. Somebody else would have to be in the car driving her, meaning there really would be more than one person in the car, so she would be able to use the HOV lane.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You know... If a man kills a pregnant woman. He gets charged with 2 murders. So that throws this post in the trash.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wow. This was a joke! Obviously no one actually uses this as a legitimate argument for abortion rights. Get over yourselves.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you tell 'em! haha

by Anonymous 13 years ago

thats probably the worst argument i've heard. and i dont think the website should make any pro-choice or pro-life posts of the day

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It doesn't matter what you think they're still going to happen

by Anonymous 13 years ago

websites shouldnt be biased.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I know but what can you do...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well considering that this site is all about sharing opinions, thats what i am doing. Dont hate.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not, what makes you think I was

by Anonymous 13 years ago

cause you have a bunch of haterade in your frig.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Get over it. <3 Get off the site or stop bitching.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@350396 (anon): thank you

by Anonymous 13 years ago

HOV means...?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Mz. Anonymous): Carpool lane, you have to have more than one person in the car to allowed drive in that lane. A few people have explained it already...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

For everyone hear saying that abortion isn't murder. You are dead wrong. The human declaration of independence clearly states that everyone has the right to life, and that fetus is becoming a human and you have just dined him/her their right to life, and that is just plain wrong.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Parasite: noun, an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense. Sound familiar? If someone breaks into my home, camps in my living room and eats all my food I'm pretty sure I have the right to kick him out.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, but you DON'T have the right to kill them. Abortion is KILLING the baby, not just kicking it out

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The difference is in the intent of the mother. The mother doesn't get an abortion to kill the baby, she gets one because she doesn't want the baby inside her anymore. If there is any chance that the baby could live outside the womb then the doctor should induce early labour and not abort it. The baby has the right to a chance at life, but the mother has the right to have control and ownership of her own body. Who are we to force someone to sustain a parasite in their body for nine months.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It is legal to kill someone who broke into your house, because you have just cause for thinking that they will try to hurt you. You can't kill them if they are on their way out though... well at least where I live

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Um, *here *denied

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*here

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I hate the thought of abortion but I think it just be acceptable in some cases. Like if it will kill the mother, all deformed like 3 arms or 2 heads... you know something extreme. But if the mother is irresponsible and the baby is perfectly healthy there is no reason for abortion. There could be like an abortion court or something where the mother needs to get 5 legit doctors to sign and say this will harm the mother or something extreme is wrong with the baby and like the abortion judge will decide whether abortion will be needed. Make sense?? Just an idea..

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Stupid idea. That's not the point of abortion. The point of abortion is so women won't have to carry a child they don't want for nine months. Not allowing them to have an abortion will likely make a lot of people desperate to the point where they will have dangerous illegal ones or where they will harm the baby before/after it's born. Before 3 months, it's a bit hard to tell whether or not the baby will be fucked up or not, also.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lol I love the pro lifers who say stop having sex. Virgins much? Sex is natural beautiful and healthy. Just cuz you don't want or aren't ready for a child doesn't by far mean you should stop having sex. Lol!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

are you kidding? You just called a CHILD a parasite? And then you said someone living in your kitchen. Wow. Last time I checked, you kind of invited that baby in by being irresponsible and having sex even though you didn't want a child. And once the kid is born, they're living in your house taking your food, just like a man in your kitchen. Can you just kill them off too? Seriously, you're ridiculous.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So...if you're on birth control AND you're using condoms AND only have one partner you're being irresponsible and deserve to have a child because you're having sex, despite the fact that you love each other and just aren't ready to have a child?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I clearly defined parasite, and it seems to me that a fetus fits very nicely into that definition. Perhaps you have an alternate definition? And ignoring the fact that you implied sex should only be for procreation, I did say earlier that abortion is about removing the baby, not killing it. If there is a chance it could survive outside the womb then labour should be induced and every effort made to keep the baby alive. Once the baby is born, then obviously killing them would NOT be equivalent to abortion. Who are we to force someone to sustain someone else in their body for nine months?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

also the mother is still perfectly capable of attaining nutrients in MOST cases (just so you don't start talking about the one in a billion times it doesn't). Its not like there is a tape worm inside of you starving and killing you, this is what nature intended for pregnancy. Babies, children, fetuses, whatever you want to call them are NOT parasites.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Parasites do not necessarily kill their host, in fact in many cases they don't even harm them. Parasites get all their sustenance from their host and so would be hurt themselves if the host died. If we are using the definition of parasite that I offered above, then an unborn fetus is most definitely a parasite.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This post is kind of stupid....a fetus counts as a person. But they can't drive in the carpool lane because only one seat is being used.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lol yeah cuz having sex is sooooo irresponsible right? Fucking ignorant ass virgins.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

wow...dont be afraid to let it all out there. anyway...great discussion. for all those who don't get why this is an argument, i just wanted to say that wouldn't argument be the point of this site? i mean seriously, post your opinon and see what others think about it...but get pissed off everytime someone disagrees. uhm...i think not. so keep up the good work everybody...and i loved that really long one, great explanation. i totally agree!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's the stupidest thing i have ever heard. That's a terrible thing to say.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Its extremely ignorant to say the mother 'made a mistake' getting pregnant. Even with precautions, it happens. If she obviously took the precautions (birth control, condoms) and they failed that shouldn't mean she has to suffer. Its her choice. No really, argue all you want, by LAW abortion is her choice. That's the bottom line.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Pro lifers can argue it all they want, the law stays the same :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago