+291 Athiests- christmas is a celebration of Jesus' birth. If you don't believe he is son of man, why are you celebrating?? Same with Easter, its not about the giant bunny who gives you candy... amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christmas is barely even a religious holiday anymore, even the Christians have almost all lost grip on it's meaning. Not to mention that the date is more than likely inaccurate, probably not even near the actual date of Christs birth. As a matter of fact, the Christians actually stole the date from a pagan holiday in the first place. Even though Atheists don't believe in god. A lot of different cultures and religions celebrate christmas. Many non-christians celebrate christmas. I know hindus, sikhs, buddhists, and others who celebrate christmas. It mostly happens in the western world where everyone is caught in the holiday spirit and we all have a good time. Atheists can celebrate christmas if they want to. They just celebrate christmas out of joy for giving gifts and lighting up a christmas tree. Not necessarily for the joy of Christ's birth. I think Atheists have an equal right to days offs as all of us. Christians and non-christians alike.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How do you know that even Christians have forgotten the meaning of Christmas and Easter? Do you go up to them and ask, "Do you keep Jesus in mind while you're doing all this festive stuff? Or are you forgetting the true meaning of Christmas?" I highly doubt it. See, you probably don't know what goes on in a Christian's average Christmas. We wake up early to go to Mass for almost two hours. We say our prayers before breakfast, lunch, and dinner. We say huge prayers of thanks at night not just for the gifts, but for God sending Jesus to the world. I'm not saying that athiests don't have an equal right to days off, but athiests and non-Christians should at least realize that they're missing the point of the holidays. Hindus, sikhs, buddists, Jews, and people of other religioins have their own holidays to celebrate, and it woueln'td be accepted for athiests to go celebrating their holidays.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

For the first part, that is exactly what I mean. The first thought that comes to my mind is the late church service by candle light on christmas eve, then dinner with the grandparents on Christmas day, THEN presents under the Christmas tree.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

maybe the extreme Christians do, but my family, all of which but me are Christians, do nothing of the sort. We simply celebrate just to celebrate and that it is a tradition and we all deserve a little something for working so hard during the year. The true meaning if Christmas is not celebrating that Jesus was born, it's celebrating that any of us are born. That any of us are here today and have not left us, and even if they have, that they might come back some day when we welcome them with open arms because they are our family. So say what you want about Atheists, but when I grow up and have kids, I'm going to teach them to celebrate each other on this day.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was going to say something, but you mostly did it for me. Why are Christian's so upset that atheists celebrate Christmas? Real Christians are caring about the world and the people in it, not about people celebrating their holiday that doesn't BELONG to anyone. If Christmas is a time where we can all be together and care for others, who are you to say that is wrong? Anyone who is more concerned about who is celebrating the holiday more than the good that the holiday is supposed to bring obviously isn't a good Christian anyways.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No. If you don't believe in God, you can't celebrate Christmas. It's like the story of the red hen or whatever. The hen bakes her own cake, and everyone wants a piece of it, even though nobody else helped. You can create your own holiday if you want. But don't jump on our boat.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm pretty sure they can do whatever they want...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@246245: Uhmm Christmas is definately a religious holiday. The whole entire reason we have Christmas is because Jesus was born. Jesus is Christ. CHRISTmas. Get it? And the reason the date is most likely inaccurate is because the followers of Jesus wanted to celebrate his birth without getting persecuted. Everyone can celebrate Christmas. The reason we give gifts is because we are celebrating Jesus' birth to save us.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do you not understand the concepts of this? Do you honestly care this much about people not in your religion celebrating this holiday? It seriously saddens me to see Christians, and just people in general behave this way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This is like the 20th time I've seen this shit. Do your fucking research and check out history. The dates for Christmas and Easter coincide with Pagan holidays. So unless you wanna dance naked under the full moon and worship goddesses, then maybe you shouldn't be celebrating "Christmas." Closeminded fuck.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

: THANK YOU. I read this and thought to myself, "How many fucking times does this same post need to be published and argued before people just agree to disagree and drop it?!". If people want to get really technical, then no one but pagans should celebrate Halloween. Oh, what's that you say? The meaning of Halloween has changed? Well maybe you should take into consideration that the meaning of other holidays (almost ALL of them if you think about it) have changed. Christmas is one of the few times in the year when, for one reason or another, people are nice to each other. So how about you appreciate that, OP.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sure, the dates coincide, but the meanings don't. Pagans don't celebrate the birth or rising of Jesus Christ. If you want to celebrate something around that time, you can go ahead and dance naked under the full moon and worship goddesses. When you celebrate Christmas and Easter, you're taking the life and death of Jesus for granted and you don't even believe it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

My sisters birthday coincides with mothers day, if she chooses to celebrate, does that mean she's automatically celebrating mothers day? No, she has a different name for what she is celebrating, and a different reason. Also, I appologize for reposting, I'm sorry if I haven't read every single frikkin amirite. How did this get small? Anyway,celebrate boxing day instead, a say of gift giving and helping the poor without religious ties other than it's the day after Christmas. And sure I appreciate the Christmas spirit, I really do, but I think that some one needs to go watch the peanuts Christmas special. If you don't believe in that, celebrate

by Anonymous 13 years ago

By the way, I appologize for the funky order of the post above, I meant to say boxing day at the end but my iPod screwed up, WHEN I WAS DOING MY RESEARCH on boxing day. To chocolatecakeisbad, Halloween is pagan? Hmm learn something new every day... I don't think that many people realize Halloween is pagan (like myself). Sorry pagans.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

People can celebrate whenever they want!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sure, they can celebrate what ever, but why are they calling it Christmas. I mean anti- commercial Christmas people came up with festivus. When you call it christmas you are acknowledging you reason to celebrate. BTW- all the morons saying that it's not his real birthday, it's been moved! Is your birthday party always celebrated on the day? Or is it occasional moved to weekeds and such??? What matters is that you are celebrating.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The above are right. Besides, some of our families were raised by Christian parents who celebrated Christmas and Easter, and now our parents are continuing the tradition even if they aren't religious - sometimes continuing family tradition on holidays is just good fun.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree with the first comment. The catholic church move jesus' birthday to coincide with the pagan celebration of the winter solstice. also, the cross and christmas tree were originally pagan symbols. So why don't you open your mind a bit, think before you speak (or write), and don't believe everything that you are told!?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Go ahead and celebrate religious holidays if you want. Its nice that there are a few times of year when people can be nice to one another. But don't go taking it all for granted. Whether you choose to believe it or not, we wouldn't have those happy family bonding times without Jesus.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

: ... So Thanksgiving is based on Jesus? And Independence Day too?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And Memorial day? New Year's?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Did you miss the "religious holidays" part?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

: I totally did. And I apologize for that. I should have read it more closely.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

...To be completely honest, I only celebrate for presents.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm a Wiccan and I still celebrate Easter,Halloween and Christmas. But not because of their meanings,I never grew up knowing that Easter was the time Jesus rose and so on. I grew up on knowing that was a time for family. Even if we dont group for religous,its that family time that really matters.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Btw, Halloween is a pagan holiday.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you know, i really dont get people who always point out a religion and end up starting religious debates Why cant us Christians and atheists learn to just get along? Live normal lives instead of trying to convert each other, this is Earth, we humans live to accept each other

by Anonymous 13 years ago

stupid piece of shit Christmas was moved to a pagan holiday and easter has nothing to do with christianity... Its borrowed from the preceding pagan religions Moreover, holidays are a time to enjoy with your family and friends, not to go in religion frenzy

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The fuck is wrong with you? Easter is the celebration of 'Christs rise from the dead'. Might have something to do with Christianity. Holidays are a time of friends and family yes. Which Is not related whatsoever cause were talking about RELIGIOUS holidays. Read the fuckin post

by Anonymous 11 years ago

im a christian turned atheist, and even when i believed in christ i never looked at christmas as a religious holiday as we are meant to. Christmas is a time to spend with your family and friends, giving gifts, laughing, having a great day. It is no longer the holiday it used to be in terms of religion.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well after SO many times of celebrating it, it would be weird to just stop. And even if some people forget the religious part in it, it is a nice way to get stuff, lol, and spend time with your family. And, being an atheist, I can't just stop celebrating it seeing as my family is Christian and it would be considered an offense at my place to just say something like that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Not many people actually celebrate Christmas religiously. The meaning has definitely changed over the years and almost nobody thinks of Christmas as Jesus's birthday. As an atheist, I do celebrate Christmas but not as a religious holiday, only to spend time with family and exchange gifts.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Everyone likes to party.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

easter comes from the name of pagan goddesses. its a sex holiday. the romans made christmas in 625 ad for their calendar.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

haha like my post b4 :D

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christmas to me is about giving and being happy together with your family. Why do I need to be Christian to believe that?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Or you can let people celebrate whatever the hell they want and get out of their business.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

seriously christians should stop getting into other people business. you have the freedom to celebrate when you want to and for what ever reasons you choose. and so do we. stop trying to force religion down our throats. we are just as human as you are and we all deserve freedom of worship, whether we worship family or some other guy in a toga. seriously butt out

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Most people don't even understand pagans. Almost all of you think of them as some wierd religious followers, but that's all really early christian's faults. The christians didn't like that the pagans believed in soemthing different, and so they waged war on them. They just happened to be the winners, and so then because the history is always written by the winner pagans were pretty much dissed for several hundred years, and that's why no one understands anymore. They are and were just the same as any other religious follower. Imagine if the pagans had started and won the war on christianity, and christians were all considered weird. -I'm agnostic by the way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In the United States, Christmas has become more of a cultural holiday than a religious one, much like Halloween. I know plenty of atheist and non-religious who celebrate Christmas, I do myself. A lot of Christmas traditions are borrowed from pagan traditions. So if Christians think that atheists shouldn't celebrate Christmas, than they shouldn't have things like Christmas trees because those are pagan. Easter is also cultural, and it's most often viewed not only as a religious holiday, but as a holiday celebrating the beginning of spring. Everyone should be able to celebrate the beginning of spring.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

christmas and easter are both pagan holidays a king (can't remember his name) was ruling over a split cultural area and didn't like it so he told them all they were Christians, but he let the pagans keep there holidays. Easter is the pagan god of fertility hence the bunny. so it's really not a Christian holiday it's pagan. :L

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Atheists SHOULD NOT celebrate Christmas. It's like refusing to be friends with someone, and then going to that person's birthday party. It's about the celebration of the birth of our Savior.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Jesus was born in August

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Jesus was born in April dumbass

by Anonymous 11 years ago

If you're going to be like that, then don't celebrate Halloween. It's a pagan holiday. Also, don't use christmas trees or crosses because those are pagan symbols. Thanks you for your time.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

stupid piece of shit Christmas was moved to a pagan holiday and easter has nothing to do with christianity... Its borrowed from the preceding pagan religions Moreover, holidays are a time to enjoy with your family and friends, not to go in religion frenzy

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Pagan festival celebrating the when the days start getting longer

by Anonymous 13 years ago

lets be honest, christianity is huge and powerful and has taken over a lot in society. do you really expect people to just sit back and not join in after all these years? christmas is a part of our culture now, not just religiously based. sure christians decided to celebrate christ on this day a long time ago, but now its evolved. christians can still celebrate their beliefs and the rest of us can celebrate loved ones and being together. we can't stop christians from exercising their religious beliefs and they can't stop the rest of us from doing the same thing. christmas was about santa, and easter was about the bunny and easter eggs in many childhoods. now its a war to keep people who dont think the same as christians out?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And this is why I'm working on selecting different words to use instead of those holidays. They'll be the same thing except without religion. And thus, anyone could be involved without overly pushy religious types telling us to butt out of their fairy tales.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christmas isn't just about Jesus.. Its also about giving and being with your family.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christmas is a holiday in the Christian calendar and most of Western society follows the Christian calendar and thus celebrates Christmas. The celebration that people indulge in is not strictly Christian however. Presents, Santa, Christmas trees and a roast dinner; none of that is "Christian". If an atheist went to Christmas mass, that'd be different.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Jesus wasn't even born in December....he was born in March....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oops I mean April

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Who ever post this is dumb,athiests don't celebrate those holidays!!and if they do leave them alone they can do wutever they wanna do

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'll have chocolate eggs if I want choclate eggs. Who are you to tell me otherwise?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank you to the person who wrote the first comment and everyone who is open minded enough to agree and not like the close minded fuck that wrote this post. I'm aetheist and I celebrate christmas out of tradition. My family celebrates and I enjoy the time of the season and the celebration of being around people you love. Everyone has the right to celebrate what they please and as they please. I may be aetheist but I respect everyones views and I hope that you can respect mine.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

ok, im an atheist and i should still be able to celebrate the holiday the way i want to. i respect your religion and the way you want to celebrate, but why should i be criticized if i want to celebrate it a different way or a way that doesnt include religion? if i respect you and your ways, why cant i be respected for mine?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Its seriously horrible that people think christmas and easter aren't religious. Why can't you people have some understanding and religious tolerance and respect our hilidays even if you don't understand them

by Anonymous 13 years ago

We do respect how you celebrate your holidays. People are just pointing out the fact that they are based off pagan celebrations, as stated earlier, to ease the transition from paganism to christianity for the pagans when they didn't have the freedom of religion. So they therefore aren't originally Christian at all. Christmas and Easter aren't always celebrated religiously, alot of people use it as a time to celebrate family. The point is: you may find them religious, and feel free to celebrate them they way you want. Just respect that they CAN be celebrated in other ways by other people with different beliefs.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

no its all about the chocolate eggs

by Anonymous 13 years ago