People on here say how judgemental Christians are. I do see that, but the atheist or whatever you want to call those people are WAY more judgemental. Just saying. Read some of the comments on a religious post. amirite?
'tis human nature to be judgemental and to defend oneself. defending oneself encourages judgement from the offending party
everything seems to be made out of two point circles and cycles these days
because human nature is not perfect, as nature is not perfect. our own opinions and ideas could not possibly be proved 'right' because we set the standard of proof according to our opinions and ideas. so, human nature is not in the right however natural it may be
There are judgmental people within every religion. It's ignorant and pointless to say that there are "so many judgmental athiests/Christians" or "Well, the athiests/Christians I know aren't judgmental at all".
Every religion has radicals. Don't judge a religion by that group of people.
@292844 (PurpleKneeSox): @292844 (PurpleKneeSox): its not accurate to judge people based on the people you know anyway, as the number of people you know is not really regulated in any way
If one Christian is judgmental, all Christians are judgmental.
If one Atheist is judgmental, all Atheists are judgmental.
Makes total sense. Or at least, it does to you.
I don't give a fuck about what anyone believes.
If you believe in God, go apeshit and love him.
If you believe in evolution/something else, believe that.
Just don't try to fuck up someone's beliefs.
im sorry if thats true, but then again you would most likely only know a small population of atheists, thus you can not and should not make an assumption all atheists are the same.
True, true. We are all judgemental, That's pretty bad as is, so why go around saying on person (religion or whatever) is more judgemental than the other?
Probably doesn't make sense. D: Sorry.
I agree there, and yes it does make sense. Its not right, we should all be allowed to believe what we want, like what we like, and do what we do, without being judged by another person or group.
Atheists aren't any more open-minded than Christians. They don't have more beliefs, they just shift their beliefs to scientific evidence rather than religious teachings.
It's Agnostics who are open-minded and choose not to believe or disbelieve anything. Since Agnostics have no strong beliefs, they can't possibly try to shove their non-beliefs on other people.
Neither Christians nor Atheists seem to have a problem with Agnostics, so we just sit back and laugh unharmed while the other groups fight.
Yet another one who is under the false impression that agnosticism is a "third way out". Agnosticism is the opinion that god's existence or non-existence cannot be known. See? An opinion, NOT a belief. You either DO have a belief in god or you DO NOT have a belief in god. In the same way that you are either a smoker or a non-smoker. There is no in between!
Not really. When it comes to religious beliefs, not everything is black and white.
You can believe that a giant meteor killed all the dinosaurs millions of years ago. You can believe that a sudden drought killed all the dinosaurs. You can believe that there never were dinosaurs at all, that fossils aren't real, whatever. You could believe any number of other theories, or you can believe that any of the known theories could be true, but we just aren't completely sure yet.
The same applies to religion. I believe that what you say, what another guy says, what the books say, what the president says, what the Pope says, all that could be true. We just aren't sure yet. I just go through life without thinking too hard about it. I'll find out when I die, hopefully.
That still makes you an atheist, an implicit atheist to be precise. I'm not questioning your beliefs, i'm simply encouraging you to learn the right terminology. It is a common misconception and it creates a lot of confusion. I am also an agnostic but i am an agnostic atheist.
One second, I'm going to look it up to make sure I've been using the term "agnostic" correctly...
(From dictionary.com)
Agnostic –noun
1.
a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2.
a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.
Do I have to answer yes or no? Or can I put "none of the above"? The presence of some type of god and the absence of any higher power are both equally possible.
I'm pretty sure the whole reason somebody created the term "agnostic" is so they wouldn't have to answer yes or no to that question.
Let me give you an example: If i asked you "do unicorns exist?" you could answer "i don't know" but if i asked you "do you believe unicorns exist?" it would not be an adequate answer since i was not asking you about what you know but what you BELIEVE. The thing is, knowledge and belief are two sepperate things and when it comes right down to it you don't actually believe unicorns exist. Are you catching my drift?
Okay, then I guess my answer would have to be yes. I believe that God (or gods, or simply a force that flows through the universe) exists simply because I don't believe that one doesn't exist.
I'm still going to call myself an agnostic though, not a theist agnostic. And I'm going to continue not judging people and not trying to press my non-beliefs on them.
...If this counts as a religious argument, this is the longest religious argument I've ever participated in. Do I win anything?
"Do I win anything?" Well you didn't win the argument. I know it's pretty useless to make everyone learn the meaning of the word but anyways this video explains it pretty well:
Okay, I watched this, and I can't argue with it. I'm a theist agnostic....but it changes from day to day. Tomorrow I may wake up and be an atheist agnostic. In fact, thinking about it right now, I'm wondering if maybe I should have said atheist earlier. I just don't think about it too much. I don't have definite beliefs, because I don't have definite reasons to believe either side.
Then i guess you can say you're undecided or that you do not have consistent belief. But as long as you understand how all the definitions work it's all good! See ya!
Well im actually a christian, and i don't believe thats the correct stereotype for atheists. If you are a devout christian, one of the 10 commandments is love thy neighbour, and by you saying this about atheists, you are in a way disobeying the commandment.
You can't say that everyone in a certain religion is judgmental. There are some people who are and some who aren't. Right now you're the person judging.
People who say things like this really need to stop with the generalizations and stereotypes. Like other people have said already, some atheists are judgmental, some Christians are judgmental, lots of people in this world are. But not one specific group. We all ought to be more open-minded and stop judging everyone on things like this.
I think that is absolutely ridiculous that we use these generalizations. It actually pisses me off. Not all Christians judge and not all Atheists judge. Some people are judgemental and it doesn't fucking matter if they're Christian, Atheist, Jewish, Agnostic, Muslim, whatever. Stop JUDGING Atheists on the few experiences you've had.
I am an atheist and I just want to say that all religions have those that are judgemental of the other religions but in turn each religion also has those that are respectful of the other religions. I think it needs to be said that not one religion is more or less judgemental than the next.
I do not believe in god or any higher power I also do not believe that there is an afterlife but if someone chooses to believe that god exists I will respect that because that is their choice and because I am also aware that I may be wrong.
So I encourage the rest of the people arguing over this comment to just get over themselves stop trying to be right because no one whether they believe in god or not will ever be able to prove that the are right.
I'm an atheist, and respect religious views. In fact I enjoy healthy religious discussions. It is when I read "or whatever you want to call those people", that I am offended. So please, when you are trying to complain about others disrespecting your views, do not come off as a hypocrite by being disrespectful..
"whatever you want to call those people"...wow, real respectful. That's really offensive. What if I was to say "christians and those other guys that believe in god". You might not be offended but really? You're ignorant. Come back when you grow up and learn to make a decent argument.
99.9% of the time it is the Christian who did/said the thing that started the argument. It's hard not to be offended when you're telling us that our beleifs (a central part of what makes us who we are) are going to send us to "hell". I will admit that I do get frustrated when I present a fact that irrefutably proves a comment wrong and they just ignore it.
More like random statistics. >_> Your experiences with Christians doesn't govern all of us. And I certainly doubt that you've met 99.9% of Christians, anyhow.
I apologize, I misphrased the thoughts in my head. You said: "99.9% of the time it is the Christian who did/said the thing that started the argument". That may happen with you, but that isn't a statistic to judge all Christians on.
I think that you have to study a religion to know what it is really all about. I am not relgious, but I do have a relationship with God. Because let's face it. All relgions are judgemental, you are always going to have someone judging someone else. So if you want to change that, change yourself. Stop focusing on others. No one is perfect and we live in a world full of hate, full of pain. So instead of being a relgion (a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects) Yes I do go to church and I do believe in Jesus Christ as my saver but I don't condem others who don't. I love them. As anyone should.
I'm atheist and when the guy I was dating found out he wouldn't talk to me any more (my soul wasn't pure enough for him) - talk about judgmental!
I've been discriminated my whole life as an atheist living in Arizona, I think MANY people confuse ATHEIST with ANTI-THEIST. There is a huge difference, Atheists doesn't believe and an anti-theist is someone who doesn't like religions. Yes, some atheists are also ati-theists, but can't you argue that people who discriminate against others are also anti-theists?
I'm atheist and my grandpa is a baptist preacher, I get a bible every year for Christmas, and I'm not judgmental, but I do think people need to stop shoving their beliefs on others -- its just not cool.
thats ironic. being christian really encompasses trying to convince others' that your beliefs are correct because it saves lives. what your boyfriend did is exactly the opposite of what christ demands of his followers. so, we can see clearly from his statement that he is simply being proud and ignorant
Actually no it's not. If he was a true follower of Christ then he would want to be with someone he could spiritually with. That's the whole point to date someone is to find a potentional husband/wife, at least that's what Christains believe, yes we are suppose to love everyone but you can't be with someone who doesn't have the same beliefs as you, if you want to grow.@297705 (Vwy):
but is ignoring them really the right choice you think?
anyway, 'soul purity' isnt really something you really touch on as a christian, seeing as how a christian believes that all people hold original sin within themselves
i know you're probably working on the basis of the passage which says that being with someone not of the same faith will turn you away from your own, but do you think you'll have any luck sharing your faith with them if you push them away and tell them they're impure?
But if you date someone who is completely against of what you believe then how are you prospering? I'm not saying that you should turn away from them and hate them don't miss understand what I am trying to say, you should definitely pray for the and love them. But it's impossible to be with someone who isn't of your own faith. And yes they could change, but why compromise something so big of you for someone? Yes we all are sinful and impure to the same extent but if you are saved then that is a gift you recieve. if you date someone who believes cheating is okay and you don't would you staywith them? Probably not. It's the same thing.
you do not prosper. the goal isnt to live a happy life. happiness should come as a byproduct of living a life in christ, just as the bearing of fruit and good works are. therefore, prosperity comes from god, as a byproduct of that relationship. mmm, but is having a relationship like that really impossible? it's been done before, yea? turning away and hating them is exactly what the original situation speaks of [though possibly not to that extreme] -and skip two sentences because the wording is incohesive with my thought processes- if a person was really a christian i doubt they would get involved with someone who though that cheating was okay. after all, that kind of mindset shines through to the deepest parts of a person's behavioral patterns. in other words, really easy to see
If they are so open minded why do they feel the need to ostrasize every religion. I know as a devout Christian I feel that. Some are just jerks. Now, thats not Atheist as a whole. I am talking about my experiences and so it might be a different point of veiw. Thats just my opinion. The run ins i've had are where Atheist are just SO disrepectful and juddgemental and sterotypical.
I've seen more religious arguments on this site than anywhere else. I love it so much. It's really fascinating to look at other people's beliefs and how they choose to express them through words. I say, bring on the haters!
Funny thing, right as I typed that exclamation point, this comment popped in calling you a "fucking ignorant bastard". XD
mmm people tend to be inconsiderate, since the arguments seem to always be between christians and atheists, and 'god' refers only to the god of christianity [which in reality is such a diverse religion that people really still dont know which god youre specifying]
congratulations!
throw the powedered glass into the sunset
see how it sparkles so beautif'ly
just be careful not to throw it into the wind
or it'll blow into your face [if you inhale, sufficient damage will be done to the esophagus and trachea to hospitalize you]
The problem is, nobody remembers the non-judgmental Atheists/Christians. If you meet someone and they say "You're going to hell because you don't believe what I do," you're going to retain that more than if someone else said "Hey, I'm cool with what you think."
You know what, the OP is right, but only in an ironic way. I'm judgmental of judgmental people, ignorant towards ignorant people, and hateful toward hateful people. Sorry if you're offended by that. Oh wait, no I'm not. Fuck off.
Just a comment, without taking sides or anything: stereotypically the world expects Christians to be good people who do good things and thus they are expected not to be judgemental. But that same 'law' isn't expected from atheists, so technically the world allows them to be judgemental? Just a thought.
I am atheist, and I some-what disagree with this post. Some people are just judgmental dicks, despite their religion.
Most of our/my comebacks are just acts of defense. I personally dislike have religion shoved down my throat, so maybe I'll get a little pissy to get someone off my case. But you can't stereotype people based on religion.
What the hell is America for, anyway?
Im an atheist aswell ,and im not judgemental on any other religion, people can believe what they want and i for one will not judge their beliefs or be forced into believing the same.
But yes, I don't exactly agree with what the OP is saying. For one, they're kind of being judgmental themselves for labeling a group of people with a specific belief. I know as an atheist myself I don't judge people who believe in other religions. Sure, I get annoyed if they try to push their religion onto me (which may be where a lot of devoutly religious people have problems) but I'm not about to tell them that they're wrong. I have no problem with them.
There are always going to be the people who take their beliefs to the extremes, and those people are probably going to be the ones who post straight away on a religious post.
Christains are Nubs. God is such bullshit, god came from monkeys, just like me and you. Only difference is, that monkey doesn't exist. And if he did, would eat his own shit.
I'm being a "stereotypical Christian" in making a fair assumption, based on the wording of your post and the qualities you display?
If that's what you see as a stereotypical Christian, then it seems to me that that is your problem, not mine.
Yeah, seriously, please be a bit more respectful. I'm an atheist too but I always respect other religions and I do fear that it is people who say things like that who are giving atheists a bad name. It's not fair to the rest of us. Have a care please.
but quite honestly, unless you can't understand what they're saying, try to stick to the argument or else it doesn't make you look like you have a passion for grammar and are peeved by those who don't use it correctly, it just makes you look mean.
Plus, Grammar Nazi, I know I'm not completely grammatically correct, but my English teacher does not let me begin a sentence with "And." (see how annoying that is?!?)
Everyone is judgemental. The end. :)
Make that a post.
(SeriouslySarcastic) yes!!!!!:
Yes that may be true, but i don't believe atheists are quite as judemental as the op is making them out to be.
I love you
I love you too, Anon. ;D
'tis human nature to be judgemental and to defend oneself. defending oneself encourages judgement from the offending party
everything seems to be made out of two point circles and cycles these days
Thats very true. If it's so, that being judgemental is human nature, then why do we act like it's a bad thing?
because human nature is not perfect, as nature is not perfect. our own opinions and ideas could not possibly be proved 'right' because we set the standard of proof according to our opinions and ideas. so, human nature is not in the right however natural it may be
There are judgmental people within every religion. It's ignorant and pointless to say that there are "so many judgmental athiests/Christians" or "Well, the athiests/Christians I know aren't judgmental at all".
Every religion has radicals. Don't judge a religion by that group of people.
Right on ;)
@292844 (PurpleKneeSox): @292844 (PurpleKneeSox): its not accurate to judge people based on the people you know anyway, as the number of people you know is not really regulated in any way
Har har.
If one Christian is judgmental, all Christians are judgmental.
If one Atheist is judgmental, all Atheists are judgmental.
Makes total sense. Or at least, it does to you.
I don't give a fuck about what anyone believes.
If you believe in God, go apeshit and love him.
If you believe in evolution/something else, believe that.
Just don't try to fuck up someone's beliefs.
Right on, right on!
this looks like it should be written in the form of poetry
i disagree with that, the atheists i know are very open minded people, its the catholics that tend to be judgemental, and sometimes hypocritical
I disagree as well, but because every religion has it's extremes and you can't generalize the entire group for those people. It's just wrong.
Exactly my point. =o)
You misspelled the first "its".
But...didn't you just judge all Catholics by assuming that all Catholics are judgemental?
the argument that the person above me is making is the same argument as OP, it's still wrong.
I did not assume all catholics are judgemental. If i did i would have clearly said, catholics are judgemental but as you recall i said "tend to be".
Most of the Catholics I know are not judgmental, and I know more athiests who are.
im sorry if thats true, but then again you would most likely only know a small population of atheists, thus you can not and should not make an assumption all atheists are the same.
True, true. We are all judgemental, That's pretty bad as is, so why go around saying on person (religion or whatever) is more judgemental than the other?
Probably doesn't make sense. D: Sorry.
I agree there, and yes it does make sense. Its not right, we should all be allowed to believe what we want, like what we like, and do what we do, without being judged by another person or group.
Atheists aren't any more open-minded than Christians. They don't have more beliefs, they just shift their beliefs to scientific evidence rather than religious teachings.
It's Agnostics who are open-minded and choose not to believe or disbelieve anything. Since Agnostics have no strong beliefs, they can't possibly try to shove their non-beliefs on other people.
Neither Christians nor Atheists seem to have a problem with Agnostics, so we just sit back and laugh unharmed while the other groups fight.
Yet another one who is under the false impression that agnosticism is a "third way out". Agnosticism is the opinion that god's existence or non-existence cannot be known. See? An opinion, NOT a belief. You either DO have a belief in god or you DO NOT have a belief in god. In the same way that you are either a smoker or a non-smoker. There is no in between!
Not really. When it comes to religious beliefs, not everything is black and white.
You can believe that a giant meteor killed all the dinosaurs millions of years ago. You can believe that a sudden drought killed all the dinosaurs. You can believe that there never were dinosaurs at all, that fossils aren't real, whatever. You could believe any number of other theories, or you can believe that any of the known theories could be true, but we just aren't completely sure yet.
The same applies to religion. I believe that what you say, what another guy says, what the books say, what the president says, what the Pope says, all that could be true. We just aren't sure yet. I just go through life without thinking too hard about it. I'll find out when I die, hopefully.
That still makes you an atheist, an implicit atheist to be precise. I'm not questioning your beliefs, i'm simply encouraging you to learn the right terminology. It is a common misconception and it creates a lot of confusion. I am also an agnostic but i am an agnostic atheist.
Isn't that what an agnostic is, by definition? An implicit atheist? I'm fine with that.
One second, I'm going to look it up to make sure I've been using the term "agnostic" correctly...
(From dictionary.com)
Agnostic –noun
1.
a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2.
a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.
That pretty much sums up what I am.
Yes i also fall into that group but you are still either atheist or theist. What would you answer the question "do you believe god exists?"
Do I have to answer yes or no? Or can I put "none of the above"? The presence of some type of god and the absence of any higher power are both equally possible.
I'm pretty sure the whole reason somebody created the term "agnostic" is so they wouldn't have to answer yes or no to that question.
Let me give you an example: If i asked you "do unicorns exist?" you could answer "i don't know" but if i asked you "do you believe unicorns exist?" it would not be an adequate answer since i was not asking you about what you know but what you BELIEVE. The thing is, knowledge and belief are two sepperate things and when it comes right down to it you don't actually believe unicorns exist. Are you catching my drift?
Okay, then I guess my answer would have to be yes. I believe that God (or gods, or simply a force that flows through the universe) exists simply because I don't believe that one doesn't exist.
I'm still going to call myself an agnostic though, not a theist agnostic. And I'm going to continue not judging people and not trying to press my non-beliefs on them.
...If this counts as a religious argument, this is the longest religious argument I've ever participated in. Do I win anything?
Gods load in your face.
"Do I win anything?" Well you didn't win the argument. I know it's pretty useless to make everyone learn the meaning of the word but anyways this video explains it pretty well:
Okay, I watched this, and I can't argue with it. I'm a theist agnostic....but it changes from day to day. Tomorrow I may wake up and be an atheist agnostic. In fact, thinking about it right now, I'm wondering if maybe I should have said atheist earlier. I just don't think about it too much. I don't have definite beliefs, because I don't have definite reasons to believe either side.
Then i guess you can say you're undecided or that you do not have consistent belief. But as long as you understand how all the definitions work it's all good! See ya!
Well im actually a christian, and i don't believe thats the correct stereotype for atheists. If you are a devout christian, one of the 10 commandments is love thy neighbour, and by you saying this about atheists, you are in a way disobeying the commandment.
You can't say that everyone in a certain religion is judgmental. There are some people who are and some who aren't. Right now you're the person judging.
People who say things like this really need to stop with the generalizations and stereotypes. Like other people have said already, some atheists are judgmental, some Christians are judgmental, lots of people in this world are. But not one specific group. We all ought to be more open-minded and stop judging everyone on things like this.
Christians like the group "God hates gays" give the rest of us a bad name
I think that is absolutely ridiculous that we use these generalizations. It actually pisses me off. Not all Christians judge and not all Atheists judge. Some people are judgemental and it doesn't fucking matter if they're Christian, Atheist, Jewish, Agnostic, Muslim, whatever. Stop JUDGING Atheists on the few experiences you've had.
I am an atheist and I just want to say that all religions have those that are judgemental of the other religions but in turn each religion also has those that are respectful of the other religions. I think it needs to be said that not one religion is more or less judgemental than the next.
I do not believe in god or any higher power I also do not believe that there is an afterlife but if someone chooses to believe that god exists I will respect that because that is their choice and because I am also aware that I may be wrong.
So I encourage the rest of the people arguing over this comment to just get over themselves stop trying to be right because no one whether they believe in god or not will ever be able to prove that the are right.
sorry in that last line it should be they not the
I'm an atheist, and respect religious views. In fact I enjoy healthy religious discussions. It is when I read "or whatever you want to call those people", that I am offended. So please, when you are trying to complain about others disrespecting your views, do not come off as a hypocrite by being disrespectful..
"whatever you want to call those people"...wow, real respectful. That's really offensive. What if I was to say "christians and those other guys that believe in god". You might not be offended but really? You're ignorant. Come back when you grow up and learn to make a decent argument.
99.9% of the time it is the Christian who did/said the thing that started the argument. It's hard not to be offended when you're telling us that our beleifs (a central part of what makes us who we are) are going to send us to "hell". I will admit that I do get frustrated when I present a fact that irrefutably proves a comment wrong and they just ignore it.
Why hello there random fact generator.
More like random statistics. >_> Your experiences with Christians doesn't govern all of us. And I certainly doubt that you've met 99.9% of Christians, anyhow.
Read my comment again and tell me when I claimed to have met 99.9% of Christians.
Its funny because people have actually called me that before.
I apologize, I misphrased the thoughts in my head. You said: "99.9% of the time it is the Christian who did/said the thing that started the argument". That may happen with you, but that isn't a statistic to judge all Christians on.
I also disagree.
I think that you have to study a religion to know what it is really all about. I am not relgious, but I do have a relationship with God. Because let's face it. All relgions are judgemental, you are always going to have someone judging someone else. So if you want to change that, change yourself. Stop focusing on others. No one is perfect and we live in a world full of hate, full of pain. So instead of being a relgion (a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects) Yes I do go to church and I do believe in Jesus Christ as my saver but I don't condem others who don't. I love them. As anyone should.
to be honest, i think people should just stop posting religious posts, because its not the eligion that makes the person, its their actioons
I'm atheist and when the guy I was dating found out he wouldn't talk to me any more (my soul wasn't pure enough for him) - talk about judgmental!
I've been discriminated my whole life as an atheist living in Arizona, I think MANY people confuse ATHEIST with ANTI-THEIST. There is a huge difference, Atheists doesn't believe and an anti-theist is someone who doesn't like religions. Yes, some atheists are also ati-theists, but can't you argue that people who discriminate against others are also anti-theists?
I'm atheist and my grandpa is a baptist preacher, I get a bible every year for Christmas, and I'm not judgmental, but I do think people need to stop shoving their beliefs on others -- its just not cool.
thats ironic. being christian really encompasses trying to convince others' that your beliefs are correct because it saves lives. what your boyfriend did is exactly the opposite of what christ demands of his followers. so, we can see clearly from his statement that he is simply being proud and ignorant
Actually no it's not. If he was a true follower of Christ then he would want to be with someone he could spiritually with. That's the whole point to date someone is to find a potentional husband/wife, at least that's what Christains believe, yes we are suppose to love everyone but you can't be with someone who doesn't have the same beliefs as you, if you want to grow.@297705 (Vwy):
but is ignoring them really the right choice you think?
anyway, 'soul purity' isnt really something you really touch on as a christian, seeing as how a christian believes that all people hold original sin within themselves
i know you're probably working on the basis of the passage which says that being with someone not of the same faith will turn you away from your own, but do you think you'll have any luck sharing your faith with them if you push them away and tell them they're impure?
But if you date someone who is completely against of what you believe then how are you prospering? I'm not saying that you should turn away from them and hate them don't miss understand what I am trying to say, you should definitely pray for the and love them. But it's impossible to be with someone who isn't of your own faith. And yes they could change, but why compromise something so big of you for someone? Yes we all are sinful and impure to the same extent but if you are saved then that is a gift you recieve. if you date someone who believes cheating is okay and you don't would you staywith them? Probably not. It's the same thing.
you do not prosper. the goal isnt to live a happy life. happiness should come as a byproduct of living a life in christ, just as the bearing of fruit and good works are. therefore, prosperity comes from god, as a byproduct of that relationship. mmm, but is having a relationship like that really impossible? it's been done before, yea? turning away and hating them is exactly what the original situation speaks of [though possibly not to that extreme] -and skip two sentences because the wording is incohesive with my thought processes- if a person was really a christian i doubt they would get involved with someone who though that cheating was okay. after all, that kind of mindset shines through to the deepest parts of a person's behavioral patterns. in other words, really easy to see
If they are so open minded why do they feel the need to ostrasize every religion. I know as a devout Christian I feel that. Some are just jerks. Now, thats not Atheist as a whole. I am talking about my experiences and so it might be a different point of veiw. Thats just my opinion. The run ins i've had are where Atheist are just SO disrepectful and juddgemental and sterotypical.
How about both the atheists and christians that comment on religious posts are judgemental?
I've seen more religious arguments on this site than anywhere else. I love it so much. It's really fascinating to look at other people's beliefs and how they choose to express them through words. I say, bring on the haters!
Funny thing, right as I typed that exclamation point, this comment popped in calling you a "fucking ignorant bastard". XD
What about Jews? You fucking ignorant bastard, there are other religions in this world
mmm people tend to be inconsiderate, since the arguments seem to always be between christians and atheists, and 'god' refers only to the god of christianity [which in reality is such a diverse religion that people really still dont know which god youre specifying]
This is not what I expected when i wrote this..
congratulations!
throw the powedered glass into the sunset
see how it sparkles so beautif'ly
just be careful not to throw it into the wind
or it'll blow into your face [if you inhale, sufficient damage will be done to the esophagus and trachea to hospitalize you]
The problem is, nobody remembers the non-judgmental Atheists/Christians. If you meet someone and they say "You're going to hell because you don't believe what I do," you're going to retain that more than if someone else said "Hey, I'm cool with what you think."
You know what, the OP is right, but only in an ironic way. I'm judgmental of judgmental people, ignorant towards ignorant people, and hateful toward hateful people. Sorry if you're offended by that. Oh wait, no I'm not. Fuck off.
You are right. Amen.
I think that we are always going to think we are right, no matter what. But I guess that's the whole point of the site.
Just a comment, without taking sides or anything: stereotypically the world expects Christians to be good people who do good things and thus they are expected not to be judgemental. But that same 'law' isn't expected from atheists, so technically the world allows them to be judgemental? Just a thought.
actually, bible says that followers of christ should never sit in the judgement seat, as that seat is only to be occupied by god
I am atheist, and I some-what disagree with this post. Some people are just judgmental dicks, despite their religion.
Most of our/my comebacks are just acts of defense. I personally dislike have religion shoved down my throat, so maybe I'll get a little pissy to get someone off my case. But you can't stereotype people based on religion.
What the hell is America for, anyway?
grow spiritually Sorry
I never said I didn't love them, I never expresssed hatred. I just simply said that my experiences havent been kind.
Im an atheist aswell ,and im not judgemental on any other religion, people can believe what they want and i for one will not judge their beliefs or be forced into believing the same.
Another agnostic-atheist!
But yes, I don't exactly agree with what the OP is saying. For one, they're kind of being judgmental themselves for labeling a group of people with a specific belief. I know as an atheist myself I don't judge people who believe in other religions. Sure, I get annoyed if they try to push their religion onto me (which may be where a lot of devoutly religious people have problems) but I'm not about to tell them that they're wrong. I have no problem with them.
There are always going to be the people who take their beliefs to the extremes, and those people are probably going to be the ones who post straight away on a religious post.
So yes, that's just my two cents.
Christains are Nubs. God is such bullshit, god came from monkeys, just like me and you. Only difference is, that monkey doesn't exist. And if he did, would eat his own shit.
Athiest ftw.
I will go out on a limb and say that you fit the bill as far as an athiest who makes the rest of them look bad.
OH! now you're being stereotypical christian, I knew one of you bible fuckers was going to say that. Well played my friends, well played.
I'm being a "stereotypical Christian" in making a fair assumption, based on the wording of your post and the qualities you display?
If that's what you see as a stereotypical Christian, then it seems to me that that is your problem, not mine.
Yeah, seriously, please be a bit more respectful. I'm an atheist too but I always respect other religions and I do fear that it is people who say things like that who are giving atheists a bad name. It's not fair to the rest of us. Have a care please.
It's pretty equal and I'm guessing your a Christian trying to make yourself feel better.
You're seriosluy, is it really that hard?
(Anonymous):Next time you try to be a smartbutt why don't you type seriously correctly?
There is a big difference between being grammaticly wrong and a typo -.-
*Grammatically. Pfft and you claim to be a grammar nazi. Good try.
I'm smart. I understand. im juss lasy&
And i'm a Grammar Nazi :)
I'm Sorry :S
but quite honestly, unless you can't understand what they're saying, try to stick to the argument or else it doesn't make you look like you have a passion for grammar and are peeved by those who don't use it correctly, it just makes you look mean.
Plus, Grammar Nazi, I know I'm not completely grammatically correct, but my English teacher does not let me begin a sentence with "And." (see how annoying that is?!?)