Tens of millions of black slaves > tens of thousands of white slaves.
I'm talking about the last ~500 years or so, not ancient slavery. Tens of thousands of whites were enslaved by North Africans in the 1650s-1800s. Meanwhile, tens of millions of Africans were enslaved by whites in Europe and the Americas.
As the commenter below me said, you can't really compare ancient slavery to slavery in the modern world.
DanielJames speaks the truth, per usual. Beyond that, as someone said below, North Africans aren't black. Well, I'm not sure if that's entirely true, but North Africans weren't a part of the slave trade anyway.
It's still slavery. Just because the numbers aren't as high doesn't mean it's ok or wasn't bad.
This post is trying to minimize the mass enslavement of millions upon millions of blacks (and in doing so, their centuries long sub-human treatment and the apparent racism that still thrives today). The enslavement of whites in North Africa is negligible compared to what blacks endured.
I didn't really read it that way (mind you I'm very tired), I just thought it was saying there was more slavery than just that of black people in North America (not just the US as Canada had slaves for a while too). I thought the idea was to say how slavery was far more widespread and not just based on skin colour. The mass slavery that occurred in the states was terrible and in no way should it be ignored or undermined, but rather people should know how much slavery did (and does) exist.
You have to keep in mind that most forms of mass slavery happened a very, very long time ago, like in ancient Rome. Yes, Rome's slaves were incredibly numerous. I'd venture to say that ancient Rome topped America in number of slaves by millions. But you also have to keep in mind that the Roman Empire existed roughly two thousand years ago.
What's so significant and upsetting is that such an extreme form of slavery was happening in a very modern world, in a place that supposedly stood for freedom.
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Correction: Studies show that NORTH Africans enslaved white Christians. Ever heard of the Barbary Coast? It refers to the regions that we now call Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya. My parents are not Morocco, and I can assure you we are not "black". There was never a moment in history were sub-Saharan Africans (blacks) enslaved whites. Please do research before you post erroneously. Let's all grow wise.
typo. I someone mixed the two ideas of "my parents are not black" and "my parents are from Morocco". I type faster than I think :)
If race wasn't a deciding factor when the Roman empire had slaves than it really isnt fair to say that "blacks enslaved whites." However when white people in america enslaved black people it was completely deliberate.
Anyone know where the word "slave" comes from? Before Europeans used blacks as slaves, Slavs were used . Slav --> slave. So whites have enslaved whites. It's more common knowledge that rich Africans enslaved blacks and helped the whites with the slave trade so blacks have enslaved blacks. Obviously whites have enslaved blacks.
To my knowledge, however, I have heard of no instance of blacks enslaving whites.
I have heard of that happening but when did it happen?
Well, I can't be too specific, but at some points in history, such as during the Roman Empire, race was not a deciding factor in slavery. Basically, whoever lost the war was enslaved by the victors. So if a group that was black won the war, and a white group lost, then it would be blacks enslaving the whites.
This is true. In many Native American tribes in history, they would fight amongst themselves and enslave which ever tribe lost.
race never was a deciding factor.
Did u mean that to be anonymous...?
no. Why would ask that question?
Oh it looks like you were the anon poster because they said "race never was a deciding factor". Word for word.
they said it was not during [event] i just wanted to correct them because this is the internet and we are heartless bastards
I'm pretty sure they didn't pick the slaves cause they black. I'm pretty sure they chose them because they were from indigenous tribes who could barely defend themselves, which made it easy to kidnap.
There are more slaves currently than there ever were during the civil war period. And race isn't a big factor in it right now, just gender. I don't know, it just irritates me that people seem to think it's only black people who were ever enslaved when its a huge problem in today's society without race.
ill be honest and say yes and they still do they are called Islamist and they enslaved us and still have slaves today
Now I am going to speak the truth even in some parts of Africa to day If two blacks make a white baby that baby or albino yes i know there is a deference but we can still have white kids to that baby is to be killed or removed because to them being white is a curse
and yes they have black slaves still to
Please take note of this intelligent discussion and always be mindful of the truth before you blindly like a post. As a senior who is graduating with honors in History, I am having a blast laughing at stupidity.
You should check your idiot meter before you post.
1.LOL, you are an idiot! I'm college! You obviously haven't graduated from high school. My concentration is HISTORY. Was that really unclear, or do you just love to troll? To break it down again, I am graduating in the honors track, and my major is history. An honors track of study means that you took courses outside of the normal requirement and wrote a panel reviewed thesis. Now, let's move on.
2. You're still an idiot.
3. Okay. Can you please post non-Wikipedia history that a sub-Saharan African group enslaved whites? Because anyone who graduated from middle school can back up their claims with textual evidence. Or do you not understand that concept.
4. Your dislike of educational debates proves number 2.
5. And five. Because you are an idiot.
6. Hahahahaha. You mad?
But your excessive smilies, inability to back up claims, and failed attempt to turn this around on me is satisfaction enough.
Oh, and I go to Harvard. Some people get girlfriends or become billionaires. I, as I wait for reading period, like to win internet battles with kids in high school like yourself.
And who said I wasn't a troll? :)
Roflol stanford vs harvard = win. Harvards got a one up on you with the resume but id say you win this cuz yeah he sounds like a douche and was acting like a five-year-old by calling you an idiot just to make you mad. he needs to learn some new insults
god i need a life
lol i guess. at least he admits hes a troll then :P shouldnt you have just listened to rule 1 of the internet (dont feed the trolls)
Dammit stop feeding the trolls we already went over this... he probably already read our discussion anyways and is gonna try to win by not posting anyways just let it go
I'm going to be Mom here. You're all in the wrong kids.
Troll, stop being a troll. It's annoying. And calling someone else an idiot is more ass than it is suma cum laude.
Monkey, you're started it. Trolls initial comment didn't warrant you to call him 'hardly and intellectual' and using condefencing 'if you know what that word means' comments, which pretty much is calling him an idiot, right?
Captainnomy, you didn't have to prolong this ridiculous debate by adding to it. This FEEDS the troll. By talking about him well after he's gone, you let him to win.
OP, you are absolutely wrong.
Can we all just get along?
You're honestly deluded if you think Stanford is better than Harvard.
But UGA is better than all of you guys, so... :)
Troll here. Ever wondered how you went from
"monkeyfrenzy is right 80% of the time." to "monkeyfrenzy is right 18% of the time." in a matter of two days?
I'm finished. Take care.
ps- like my new name?